8/22/2023 Against the Astros of Houston

[Humphrey]

Yup. And standing pat was completely fine. Especially since even the Yankees did not sell. And they had/have a worse record than us.

but again. The big culprit here is the fielding miscues. And it starts with Devers. Who might have been close to breaking the record for most errors by a 3rd baseman in a season if the scorekeepers were calling plays errors like they have done in every other season until this one.

his constant fielding issues not only lead to runs scoring that should not be, but causes extra stress on our pitching staff to throw more pitches than they should.

Even if you doubled Devers' errors, Butch Hobson's Zimmer-aided 43 in 1978 is unassailable. Plus, IMHO scoring in that era wasn't all that much stricter (prior to the 70s, most definitely stricter).

 

[Curt S Loew]

Even if you doubled Devers' errors, Butch Hobson's Zimmer-aided 43 in 1978 is unassailable. Plus, IMHO scoring in that era wasn't all that much stricter (prior to the 70s, most definitely stricter).

I can picture that bone chipped elbow with an ace bandage around it like it was yesterday.

 

[JOBU]

I would kill to see Pedro as the pitching coach of the Red Sox. I have seen his analysis on MLBN and he is amazing. Not that every good analyst would make a great coach but it looks like he could teach the pitchers a thing or three.
Papi as hitting coach I am not 100% sure. He loves the Sox and they love him, that's for sure though.

I do think that Varitek will be the Sox manager at some point. Maybe sooner rather than later?

Don’t get me wrong. Part of me loves the idea. The flip side of that is how will it affect their legacy? Pedro and Ortiz are gods. I don’t want to have to differentiate between tek/papi/pedro the coach and their “legacy” as a player. I don’t want them to be diminished in any capacity and being coach/manager would most certainly do that. It would end very poorly.

 

[joe dokes]

Even if you doubled Devers' errors, Butch Hobson's Zimmer-aided 43 in 1978 is unassailable. Plus, IMHO scoring in that era wasn't all that much stricter (prior to the 70s, most definitely stricter).

The league records are 91 in the NL and 64 in the AL. Both early 20th century. I think both are safe.

 

[E5 Yaz]

I think the window on Tek being the next manager might have closed. If they want new voices in the clubhouse, he could well be among the casualties. As to the idea of Pedro and Papi giving up their cushy gigs to be there every night, travel with the team, and so forth ... yeah, there's not a chance in hell of that happening. Pedro's been far more valuable as a special instructor type, working with Bello for instance.

I've always thought that it would be fun to have Pedroia on the coaching staff, but I think that might be a non-starter as well.These guys have lives now and, theoretically, most of them still have their money. I mean, who's the most modern-day player who made millions -- never mind be a star -- who is a manager or a member of the coaching staff?

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

I think the window on Tek being the next manager might have closed. If they want new voices in the clubhouse, he could well be among the casualties. As to the idea of Pedro and Papi giving up their cushy gigs to be there every night, travel with the team, and so forth ... yeah, there's not a chance in hell of that happening. Pedro's been far more valuable as a special instructor type, working with Bello for instance.

I've always thought that it would be fun to have Pedroia on the coaching staff, but I think that might be a non-starter as well.These guys have lives now and, theoretically, most of them still have their money. I mean, who's the most modern-day player who made millions -- never mind be a star -- who is a manager or a member of the coaching staff?

Counsel, I guess? He didn't exactly have any huge deals, but I guess had a journeyman career touching 7 figures in some years.

Edit -- and I guess Boone did ok.

But, I guess these guys prove the point.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Counsel, I guess? He didn't exactly have any huge deals, but I guess had a journeyman career touching 7 figures in some years.

Exactly, it's the salary-relative journeymen types who are going to be your managers, etc. Even Tek, who made decent money, is more a "name" in Boston than he is anywhere else. And Counsel's been around a while now -- he and Roberts and Servais all started in 2016. Francona's the only one whose been at the helm longer.

edit: Dusty Baker's the current manager who was the best player, and he's been a manager for eons

 

[DanoooME]

I think the window on Tek being the next manager might have closed. If they want new voices in the clubhouse, he could well be among the casualties. As to the idea of Pedro and Papi giving up their cushy gigs to be there every night, travel with the team, and so forth ... yeah, there's not a chance in hell of that happening. Pedro's been far more valuable as a special instructor type, working with Bello for instance.

I've always thought that it would be fun to have Pedroia on the coaching staff, but I think that might be a non-starter as well.These guys have lives now and, theoretically, most of them still have their money. I mean, who's the most modern-day player who made millions -- never mind be a star -- who is a manager or a member of the coaching staff?

McGwire was a hitting coach for awhile (Cardinals under LaRussa), so was Barry Bonds (Marlins)

 

[E5 Yaz]

McGwire was a hitting coach for awhile (Cardinals under LaRussa), so was Barry Bonds (Marlins)

McGwire's a good call; he did it for a decent while. Bonds counts, of course, but he was a one-year failed experiment

 

[moonshotmanny]

Verlander told Cora to “Fuck off” during that exchage about the PitchCom in the 2nd.

What happened??

 

[Ale Xander]

8/22 was Yaz’s 84th birthday

Lousy present

 

[DeadlySplitter]

Why was the pitch call down & in on 1-1? He's lucky that wasn't gone