Aaron Hernandez charged with 1st degree murder; released by Patriots
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Yikes. I mean fuck him if he's guilty in all this, but this escalated quickly, and it's disappointing.
Well, yea. I mean, you're outside your mind if you don't think the Patriots security department has had extensive communication with the authorities.86spike said:
Expanded his legal team yesterday, Released today. Very unlikely its obstruction only.
At this point I'm over Hernandez as a Pat and just want some damn details. Press conferences please.
At this point I'm over Hernandez as a Pat and just want some damn details. Press conferences please.
Well I guess it's my own fault for trying to see the bright side of a Patriots player involved in a murder charge.
Fuck him. Good riddance.
Fuck him. Good riddance.
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction. What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport. This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport. This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.
You don't release a player with Hernandez' talent over an obstruction of justice charge as soon as he is arrested unless you know something more is coming.86spike said:
They have no history of making rash decisions on disciplinary issues. Possible he was already on a one strike plan, but I'm guessing they know he's going to be charged with some level of involvement in the murder itself.
Wow, on the field this really sucks. Our TE situation has taken a big hit the past 6 months
Off the field, I have to give the Patriots a lot of credit, a lot of teams talk the talk of wanting high character, but very few teams actually release a player this talented. It will be interesting to see all the facts once they come out, then this might be less of a shock.
What is the cap hit for the accelerated bonus for this???
Off the field, I have to give the Patriots a lot of credit, a lot of teams talk the talk of wanting high character, but very few teams actually release a player this talented. It will be interesting to see all the facts once they come out, then this might be less of a shock.
What is the cap hit for the accelerated bonus for this???
Are you fucking kidding me? Will he be able to do his job starting in July? If he is innocent he can get another job somewhere else. This is an entertainment business, who wants to root for scumbags?redsox13 said:
My deepest condolences go out to the real victim in all of this and his family.
I'm talking, of course, about Brady.
I'm talking, of course, about Brady.
I actually think he was serious making him the fucking joke. Either way it's a joke.Ed Hillel said:
Also, is this considered a breach of contract such that the signing bonus can be recovered and we wont have to take a cap hit? I think there is a chance of that
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction. What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport. This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.
Whatever. Did they do that to Moss or Denard or Faulk or Ty Law? No. They deserve the benefit doubt. They likely know a lot more than we do, or he was already on his last strike. Please give us one example of your supposed Boy Scout attitude.
And employers have no obligation to act on a presumption of innocence. That's a legal standard, not a business standard.
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport. This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.
Whatever. Did they do that to Moss or Denard or Faulk or Ty Law? No. They deserve the benefit doubt. They likely know a lot more than we do, or he was already on his last strike. Please give us one example of your supposed Boy Scout attitude.
And employers have no obligation to act on a presumption of innocence. That's a legal standard, not a business standard.
Do we know what the cap implications are here? From the other mega thread, I recall others saying we get hit with a $12M cap charge. Is this bullshit because of the arrest or did the Pats decide to bite that bullet today by cutting him?
I'm a cap luddite.
I'm a cap luddite.
ShaneTrot said:
You're kidding, right? We root for tons of scumbags. If you could be guaranteed a fourth ring with Hernandez on the roster, an overwhelming majority of fans would take that.
Charges will definitely be more than obstruction, then.
Bottom line?
He betrayed the team.
Not to mention Odin Lloyd.
Good riddance.
Bottom line?
He betrayed the team.
Not to mention Odin Lloyd.
Good riddance.
I have a feeling accessory to murder (speculation) violates the league's personal conduct policy.tims4wins said:
Are you fucking kidding me? Will he be able to do his job starting in July? If he is innocent he can get another job somewhere else. This is an entertainment business, who wants to root for scumbags?
Find a team in the NFL that doesn't have a scumbag on the roster.
I'll cheer for the team that doesn't, thank you.
Find a team in the NFL that doesn't have a scumbag on the roster.
I'll cheer for the team that doesn't, thank you.
He'll get the presumption of innocence where he's entitled to it, in a court of law.redsox13 said:
The league and the team have every right to act as they see fit to protect their brand. This is a good call from that perspective.
RSN Diaspora said:
I would happily root for Idi Amin if it meant making one critical third-and-short stop in a division game in November.
tims4wins said:
Yeah if its more than obstruction, they will go after the bonus and I am pretty confident they will win.
Lolz.redsox13 said:
You realize this is about a murder right? This isn't about dogs fighting, drugs, thugs, horrible tattoos, and terrible attitudes.
murder
This assumes that the Pat's FO has no more information than the people on this board, which is pretty unlikely.redsox13 said:
As far as the presumption of innocence, I'm not sure being released by an NFL team requires a player to serve a jail sentence, but I'll admit I'm not fully read up on the CBA.
Saying this situation is potentially messy is like saying driving down the interstate in the wrong direction could potentially end badly.
Nothing better than a fan presuming to know what a pro athlete's character is really like. Because they are all the genuine nice guys that ESPN and their PR people portray them to be.ShaneTrot said:
The Pats have to know that this is a bigger deal than obstruction.
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