Isn’t that a huge of though? AD isn’t going to give assurances, and how confident can Danny be that he’ll resign after we trade away assets.If Ainge feels confident thayt AD would resign, I would 100% be in favor of trading for him if Kyrie walks. And if that % chance of him resigning was down to 50%, I would still be tempted.
PJ Tucker.Name another "role player" who drives his team's culture.
There’s no point of “moving on” until Kyrie has made a decision.Per Shams: AD only wants LAL or NYK long term.
Let’s move on.
There’s no point of “moving on” until Kyrie has made a decision.
Not many star players recently have been traded to their "preferred" destinations however.Per Shams: AD only wants LAL or NYK long term.
Let’s move on.
I think it’s certainly reasonable position and I’m guessing you’ll ultimately be right but I’m not giving up just yet. Wonder if Ainge can extract value somehow as the 3rd team.Agree to disagree. If AD keeps saying these things eventually I’m inclined to believe him. And the AD thing will conclude before Kyrie decides. If Kyrie and AD wanted to team up in Boston they could’ve made that known. Instead we’re getting smaller and smaller lists of teams AD will sign with. He can’t even keep it quiet to help out his old team.
I get all that. And the Kawhi stuff too. AD and his team seem to be a bit more certain in terms of not even having a sliver of light out there—“He prefers NYK and LAL but could possibly be persuaded although it’s doubtful.”Not many star players recently have been traded to their "preferred" destinations however.
I'll take a stab...With the LAL and NYK he'd be turning around two fabled organizations, both are tire fires at the moment. Huge upside for him.Serious question: why would AD want to play for the Knicks but not the Nets?
Why would he need to be an upgrade over Jrue?Isn't the answer, because he will be overpaid and he isn't an upgrade over Jrue anyways?
Not necessarily. Pels want to bring prospective draft prospects in for workouts if they pick up more lottery picks.https://twitter.com/Ralph_MasonJr/status/1138212957031096325/video/1
Per Woj, the Pels want a deal done by this weekend? That seems...unlikely.
Well certainly his agent won’t be keeping quiet.Agree to disagree. If AD keeps saying these things eventually I’m inclined to believe him. And the AD thing will conclude before Kyrie decides. If Kyrie and AD wanted to team up in Boston they could’ve made that known. Instead we’re getting smaller and smaller lists of teams AD will sign with. He can’t even keep it quiet to help out his old team.
They can still bring draft prospects in without having the actual picks in hand. I don't blame Griffin for setting a soft deadline though. With the draft on Thursday they want to not only have a game plan together but also to potentially move the picks in other deals.Not necessarily. Pels want to bring prospective draft prospects in for workouts if they pick up more lottery picks.
Time clouds our memories. Paul George was an LA or bust guy, didn't even want NYC. Kawhi is STILL linked heavily to the Clippers, and to no other teams outside the incumbent Raps.I get all that. And the Kawhi stuff too. AD and his team seem to be a bit more certain in terms of not even having a sliver of light out there—“He prefers NYK and LAL but could possibly be persuaded although it’s doubtful.”
I mean, if Ainge goes for it, I’ll root hard and hope AD changes his mind, but with each new list of teams I’m less enamored with taking the gamble. Reasonable minds can disagree.
Griffin would be a very risk get for NO. He's played more than 70 games once since 2014, and that was this season, when he then was injured in postseason.A three-way is rumored to be under discussion among NO, LAL and Detroit. Griffin (or possibly Drummond) to the Pels, AD to the Lakers, young players and picks to Detroit and NO. It's totally unsubstantiated, but that's one way Griffin could get his all-star.
Depends on what all the pieces are. Theoretically it could be Lonzo/Kuzma to Detroit and Ingram, Griffin and #4 to NOP. That's not a bad offer, although I don't understand a Zion/Griffin frontcourt or why you'd clog your cap sheet with that deal when you should be clearing space to build around Zion.I mean...doesnt an offer of Tatum only trump that offer? I call BS
Yes, it does. A lot of us noted at the time of the George fracas that the sources that declared PG to the Lakers was a fait accompli were all hooked into Laker management. In the Leonard situation what we heard was that he didn't want to team up with James. So neither situation is really analogous to this one where the player has requested a trade to the Lakers and hired a management agency owned by a current Laker player. That is one palpable difference.Time clouds our memories. Paul George was an LA or bust guy, didn't even want NYC. Kawhi is STILL linked heavily to the Clippers, and to no other teams outside the incumbent Raps.
That is a very 2004 - 2010 Cavs type of trade.Griffin would be a very risk get for NO. He's played more than 70 games once since 2014, and that was this season, when he then was injured in postseason.
I agree with this, it doesn't make sense to clog the cap with Griffin. Maybe they think they can spin Griffin to the Knicks after they strike out in free agency?Depends on what all the pieces are. Theoretically it could be Lonzo/Kuzma to Detroit and Ingram, Griffin and #4 to NOP. That's not a bad offer, although I don't understand a Zion/Griffin frontcourt or why you'd clog your cap sheet with that deal when you should be clearing space to build around Zion.
Well, the "rumor" keeps changing so perhaps we should all wait until this is something more.If the rumor has any validity (it's very likely bogus), Detroit maybe gets Randle, who also looks like a bad fit with Zion. Randle would have to opt in or agree to an extension before the trade.
Rumored where? Provide a link. Otherwise, it's just you throwing shit against the wallA three-way is rumored to be under discussion among NO, LAL and Detroit. Griffin (or possibly Drummond) to the Pels, AD to the Lakers, young players and picks to Detroit and NO. It's totally unsubstantiated, but that's one way Griffin could get his all-star.
Rumor from where? Not seeing it on twitter or any of the reputable aggregator sites. The three-team scenario was strange enough, but the idea that Randle would opt-in is not believable. He's going to get a full MLE offer or better this offseason.If the rumor has any validity (it's very likely bogus), Detroit maybe gets Randle, who also looks like a bad fit with Zion. Randle would have to opt in or agree to an extension before the trade.
I would be very surprised if Ainge allows three assets to walk out the door this summer for nothing. With Kyrie, he may have no choice, but he has control with Rozier, and I think that there will be a sincere interest in bringing back Morris as well. Those guys will provide rotation minutes to the roster in the near term and potentially valuable midrange contracts to facilitate bigger deals in the future.If Ky/MaMo/Rozier exit, the C's will lose a lot of scoring. BUT we'll see a defensive uptick, more ball movement, improved team chemistry & our coach back in charge. They will be fine next season.
Fair enough, it's probably Kyrie OR Rozier.I would be very surprised if Ainge allows three assets to walk out the door this summer for nothing. With Kyrie, he may have no choice, but he has control with Rozier, and I think that there will be a sincere interest in bringing back Morris as well. Those guys will provide rotation minutes to the roster in the near term and potentially valuable midrange contracts to facilitate bigger deals in the future.
Jake Wesley?Posted on realgm from an alleged Pels insider. I got it 3rd hand. Caveat emptor.
No, it was started by someone on an LSU football site called Tigerdroppings.Jake Wesley?
If you have a rumored trade from someone, post the origin of it.Spoilers? It's a rumor, that's all.
Do I think AD is going to the Lakers? Yes, and so do the people in Las Vegas.
No, what I was saying is that when I was looking at the post it appeared to be in a SPOILER tag. Not seeing it now.Spoilers? It's a rumor, that's all.
Do I think AD is going to the Lakers? Yes, and so do the people in Las Vegas.
Oh, well if it came from a poster on an LSU football site, that's different.No, it was started by someone on an LSU football site called Tigerdroppings.
It really didn't though. As others have noted, the fit between Griffin and Williamson is awkward and if its Drummond, that makes even less sense. Then there is the point about New Orleans diluting the young assets they could get from the Lakers by having some sent to the Pistons so the Pelicans can get a declining all star. Tigerdroppings indeed...Between now and, say, July 1 there will be dozens of NBA rumors on free agency, the draft and potential trades, About 2% of them will turn out to be true. But it's hard to know which ones are worth discussing. Sometimes I see one and think "that could never happen" so I don't bother with it. This one seemed at least marginally credible.