ARod pays up his bet with Papi
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I think I'm more offended by that as a Red Sox fan than any Yankee fan would be. Isn't he kind of dead to them?
I saw this live and was disturbed. If the Yankees had won would Papi had to have donned pinstripes? I’m not sure I could have survived that.
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While watching this was unpleasant, the alternative was unthinkable. It would have been awful losing to the Yankees and then watching Papi in pinstripes would have been devastating. At least this unpleasantness was over quickly.
The weird thing is, had things worked out differently, A-Rod would have been the Sox ss and Ortiz would have been a Yankee.
Creepy, I know.
Creepy, I know.
Do you have a citation for this? Or are you just speculating?
Ortiz was released by the Twins on December 16, 2002 and the Sox signed him January 22, 2003. So there was a full month where the Yankees could have swooped in and tried to sign him. At the time, the Yankees had Jason Giambi and Nick Johnson at 1B/DH. The Sox had Jeremy Giambi, Millar, Hillenbrand, and Manny all in the mix for 1B, DH, or both.
If the Yankees were genuinely pursuing him and essentially giving him a choice, he might have seen joining the Yankees as a better chance at playing time. Johnson was coming off his first full season in which he had an OPS of .749, so it's not like he had a stranglehold on a starting spot.
The story I have heard is Steinbrenner wanted him and front office did not, so no offer was made.
Ortiz signed so late that I think there’s little chance the story is “Theo beat them to him”. Supposedly, Pedro was part of talking Sox into taking a shot on Ortiz.
Ortiz signed so late that I think there’s little chance the story is “Theo beat them to him”. Supposedly, Pedro was part of talking Sox into taking a shot on Ortiz.
Actually this is what I heard too, sorry my memory was clouded in the details
I just read his post as saying if A-Rod went to the Red Sox then Ortiz would have been a Yankee, but Ortiz had already been on the Sox for a year.
I read/heard the same somewhere. But Cashman says it never happened...
http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/48802/no-one-foresaw-damage-red-soxs-david-ortiz-would-do-to-the-yankees
"It's an urban myth," Cashman said in a phone interview. "Essentially what occurred here was, any time the Red Sox signed anybody, anything that was on ESPN -- 'The Boston Red Sox today announced the acquisition of whoever,' a free agent, a trade, whatever -- George would turn to me and say, 'Why didn't you sign him? I've always liked him. He better not be any good.' And I would tell The Boss, 'You only can have 25 guys on a roster, Boss.' At that time, we had [designated hitter Jason] Giambi and [first baseman] Nick Johnson. Did George know who David Ortiz was? No, he had no idea."
Yeah, seeing Rod in a Red Sox uni made me throw up. Not in a "little in my mouth" throw up sense, but in "all of my previous stomach contents are covering the living room carpet" sense. This thread should be sponsored by Stanley Steemer.
Arod has been erased from Yankee history quicker than the French Navy in the American War of independence.
Quite a change in attitude here on SOSH now compared to the offseason before 2004, when most here were praying the Red Sox would trade Manny, Nomar, and Jon Lester for A-Rod and Magglio Ordonez.
The widespread lust for A-Rod here at that time was disgusting. Good thing people have come to their senses.
The widespread lust for A-Rod here at that time was disgusting. Good thing people have come to their senses.
On the plus side, that means we haven't really seen A-Rod in a Sox uniform. So our eyes may someday heal.
Yeah, honestly, he's not as godawful as one would expect.
It was also deserved? Lets be honest, we have no idea how his personality would have affected that clubhouse. Looking back, sure, he seemed to be a bit of an odd guy and I don't know if his weirdness would have affected guys like Ortiz, Pedro, etc...
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't change how things happened for anything in the world but at the time people were right to be excited at the thought of ARod and Magglio Ordonez playing in Boston.
I’ll be more specific. You don’t affect Pedro and Ortiz. They affect you. Also, Papi and ARod act like lifetime buddies on the Fox pre and post game shows. The one thing is ARod’s steroids. We did not need that tainting the three championships.