It's guaranteed money at the beginning of his career, and a nice little cushion. He's got one more year of arb, then free agency in 2023.He was going to make between 3 and 4 this year. JB made 8.5 last year for his 2nd year of arb coming off a mediocre season, so not sure I understand why AB would take 2-10. Good for the Sox though.
But he hasn't been improving and growing. He took a serious step backward last year. In 2017 his OPS + was 103. In 2018 it rose to a very good 123. Last year it dropped to 100. He lost ground across the board including his strikeout rate going way up.That seems like a very reasonable contract. Hope he can continue to improve and grow.
He bulked up too much.But he hasn't been improving and growing. He took a serious step backward last year. In 2017 his OPS + was 103. In 2018 it rose to a very good 123. Last year it dropped to 100. He lost ground across the board including his strikeout rate going way up.
Agree that last year was a step back. The coming two seasons are his chance to show that last year was an anomaly and that he is worth a bigger pay day in 2022.But he hasn't been improving and growing. He took a serious step backward last year. In 2017 his OPS + was 103. In 2018 it rose to a very good 123. Last year it dropped to 100. He lost ground across the board including his strikeout rate going way up.
I wouldn't be surprised if they see him taking a big step forward, they look to rip this up and sign him to a longer term deal.Agree that last year was a step back. The coming two seasons are his chance to show that last year was an anomaly and that he is worth a bigger pay day in 2022.
Seems like more of an acquisition thing.Insanity. I'm happy. I'm surprised. Can't believe we got em.
I Thought his fielding took a tumble, too.But he hasn't been improving and growing. He took a serious step backward last year. In 2017 his OPS + was 103. In 2018 it rose to a very good 123. Last year it dropped to 100. He lost ground across the board including his strikeout rate going way up.
Do we know if he's been messing with his launch angle? Hard contact was up a bunch last year (38.1% v. 28% in '18), but his FB rate was up as well (40.7% v. 35.4%) and LD was down (21.0% v. 23.8%).But he hasn't been improving and growing. He took a serious step backward last year. In 2017 his OPS + was 103. In 2018 it rose to a very good 123. Last year it dropped to 100. He lost ground across the board including his strikeout rate going way up.
That was my first thought as well, although it would be a little odd to trade him and Mookie at the same time.Makes him really easy to trade
Frodo will be retired by the time they trade MookieThat was my first thought as well, although it would be a little odd to trade him and Mookie at the same time.
I sat near 3rd base in Oakland for games with Milwaukee and the Sox this year. Besides Yellich, he had the sweetest swing I saw by a lefthander in the 2 games. I'm still a believer.I'm very bullish on AB, so this makes me happy.
They need to free up some cap space to be able to afford this...
Tolkien might complete Lord of the Rings II: Electric Boogaloo before the Mookie trade’s completed at this rate.Frodo will be retired by the time they trade Mookie
Why does this signal that he's open to a long-term deal? He wasn't going anywhere (at least, not of his own volition) during the term covered by the deal anyway. This is just rolling two pre-ordained contracts into one.While Benintendi is no Mookie, this mini-deal signals he's at least open to a long-term agreement later if that's in the interests of both parties, as opposed to Mookie, who was insistent on pushing the financial envelope from his initial bonus to his desire to go to free agency (which is Mookie's absolute right to do, of course).
Beni's a nice player, but Fred Lynn he ain't - Freddie was ROY, MVP, an all-star and won a GG in his first seasonMaybe it’s because I’m too young to remember Fred Lynn, but I don’t understand the unbridled optimism this board has for Benintendi. He’s fine, often good, but mostly because of his high floor.
Regardless, this seems like a fine move because it probably shaves a couple mil off next year’s AAV, and/or makes him easier to trade.
Joe Panik has a really nice swing (but not as nice as Beni’s) and Panik looked like a really good hitter for the Giants for a couple or three years, but just signed a minor league deal with Toronto. Pretty swings are a nice to have don’t mean a great deal. Still, go Andrew.I sat near 3rd base in Oakland for games with Milwaukee and the Sox this year. Besides Yellich, he had the sweetest swing I saw by a lefthander in the 2 games. I'm still a believer.
Other than contact skills, why are these two players comparable? Benintendi has 60 points of career SLG on Panik, and a much better walk rate. Panik has had one offensive season better than Benintendi's worst season.Joe Panik has a really nice swing (but not as nice as Beni’s) and Panik looked like a really good hitter for the Giants for a couple or three years, but just signed a minor league deal with Toronto. Pretty swings are a nice to have don’t mean a great deal. Still, go Andrew.
Just that nice swings don’t mean much.Other than contact skills, why are these two players comparable? Benintendi has 60 points of career SLG on Panik, and a much better walk rate. Panik has had one offensive season better than Benintendi's worst season.
I guess they both hit around .270.
The point was not that Panik and Benintendi are good comps--in fact, as I understood it, closer to the opposite. The point was that a nice-looking swing doesn't necessarily tell you anything about what the player is actually able to accomplish with it.Other than contact skills, why are these two players comparable? Benintendi has 60 points of career SLG on Panik, and a much better walk rate. Panik has had one offensive season better than Benintendi's worst season.
I guess they both hit around .270.
FWIW, this has long since stopped being funny. YMMV.Insanity. I'm happy. I'm surprised. Can't believe we got em.
You sir, have never been the arbiter of funnyFWIW, this has long since stopped being funny. YMMV.
You sir, have never been the arbiter of funny
One time Ken Griffey was mocking David Zalle's anemic hitting and Zalle's response was, "I'd like to see you hit with my swing".Just that nice swings don’t mean much.
Funny.One time Ken Griffey was mocking David Zalle's anemic hitting and Zalle's response was, "I'd like to see you hit with my swing".
I feel like this is probably pretty accurate. In college, Benny was surprisingly productive despite his size and build. He bulked up and probably lost some of his twitch and probably lost his mechanics along the way.He bulked up too much.