As long as he doesn't turn into Daniel Bard 2.0Graterol is more interesting than Josiah Gray. I guess I have to be less mad.
As long as he doesn't turn into Daniel Bard 2.0Graterol is more interesting than Josiah Gray. I guess I have to be less mad.
We. Likely. Don't. Know. All. The. Details. Yet.Brusdar will also be crazy cheap over the next 4 years...
Signing him to a 30M/year extensionWe. Likely. Don't. Know. All. The. Details. Yet.
I’m with you. I’m excited.I'm glad it's over...stick all the pins you want in your John Henry voodoo doll. I'm looking forward to this season, because I think they'll outperform the low expectations here.
Maeda is good now, Brusdar may eventually be good, he may also not be a starterBrusdar will also be crazy cheap over the next 4 years...
Most reports seem to be implying that Brusdar and Verdugo are the pieces. Money going with Price seems to be the one missing detail. And not sure how that affects the logic of the Twins trading Brusdar for Maeda unless there are other unreported players going to MIN from LA, but there has been no indication of that.We. Likely. Don't. Know. All. The. Details. Yet.
Agreed, he's cleaning up the salary mess left to him by others.Don't beat up Bloom too much. Sounds like this was his prime directive by ownership and everybody in baseball knew it. Hard to make a favorable deal under those circumstances.
The rumors that seemed like not great deals were seemingly better than reality.Did we really not get a third prospect? Jeter? A couple A guys? We need minor league bodies.
The package isn't bad all things considered.I just don’t understand why you don’t play it out until July if this is the package.
If only Bloom were as savvy as you. Bloom certainly did not get playedGarbage return that could have been had in July. Dodgers got Mookie and half of Prices contract for Verdugo. Lmfao. Bloom got played.
And even more importantly would only get about $10 million in cap relief instead of $27 million.The package isn't bad all things considered.
In July the Dodgers will likely be 7 games up and maybe wouldn't offer as much. And the Sox could be in race and unable to deal him.
A big piece of the value to the Sox, unfortunately, was savings under the tax threshold which are more than halved if they wait until the deadline. Plus the acquiring team doesn’t get a pick if Mookie walks. So not sure the return is massively higher, and the Sox don’t get the one thing they seem to value most in luxury tax savings.Garbage return that could have been had in July. Dodgers got Mookie and half of Prices contract for Verdugo. Lmfao. Bloom got played.
They got 2 top prospects and a cost savings of almost $50 million for 1 year of Betts and half of Price's deal. Stop it.Garbage return that could have been had in July. Dodgers got Mookie and half of Prices contract for Verdugo. Lmfao. Bloom got played.
Well, they certainly won’t need to worry about the “closer”.Oh man. Can't wait for the reaction if the Sox deploy the "opener".
If they're really paying half of Price's money, they didn't get out from under anything.One year of Mookie given and we get two decent cost controlled players, under the cap, and out from under Price at least to some extent.
This is what baseball is in 2020.
Won't know until we know how much money the Sox sent the Dodgers.Any idea on how much payroll flexibility this creates for the Sox this year? Curious to see their budget for adding talent this spring.
This is awesome.It’s an anagram for Burglar Roadster.
We wuz robbed!
it's enough to reset the tax this year.If they're really paying half of Price's money, they didn't get out from under anything.
We like Bloom. I've seen his work from day one in Tampa Bay.Don't beat up Bloom too much. Sounds like this was his prime directive by ownership and everybody in baseball knew it. Hard to make a favorable deal under those circumstances.
2 prospects with injury concerns. Brusdar could very well become a reliever. Sorry but for a top 5 player this needs to be more. Even with the money being saved.They got 2 top prospects and a cost savings of almost $50 million for 1 year of Betts and half of Price's deal. Stop it.
We traded Mookie for Bruised Arm Gatorade and Alex Vertigo!Brusdar Graterol is a fascinating name.
We're getting 2 players, that's not a fucking package. Christ it's barely even a BAG!
If they are carrying $16m for Price they will be about $23m under the tax minus whatever the two players ding back add (not much).Any idea on how much payroll flexibility this creates for the Sox this year? Curious to see their budget for adding talent this spring.
If it's exactly half of Price and all of Betts, their CBT payroll should be just over $185 million.Any idea on how much payroll flexibility this creates for the Sox this year? Curious to see their budget for adding talent this spring.
This. Mookie isn’t saying “sign me”, he wants to reach FA and max his money. It was unlikely he would be retained.Contrary to some of the conventional wisdom on this board, I like this trade for the long haul. A few thoughts:
1. Mookie is not Yaz. Yaz did not rebuff consistent team efforts to sign him to a long-term contract. Mookie probably doesn't want to re-sign with the Red Sox, and the Red Sox couldn't and shouldn't afford his contract demands.
2. This isn't really about saving John Henry's money. This is about re-setting the Red Sox payroll to avoid long-term luxury tax and draft penalties that hamstring the team's future competitiveness.
3. Jettisoning Price has to be considered a positive. While he may be a great teammate, he's a distraction and a public-relations albatross in the Boston media market.
4. Two major league ready prospects with nearly a decade of control between them strike me as a decent haul for 1 year of an un-resign-able Mookie and a guy none of us should be sad to see go.
5. Payroll flexibility! Bloom just undid all of Dombrowski's subpar payroll management, and now has a much cleaner slate to work with going forward.
Because I was talking about the Twins/Dodgers deal.Most reports seem to be implying that Brusdar and Verdugo are the pieces. Money going with Price seems to be the one missing detail. And not sure how that affects the logic of the Twins trading Brusdar for Maeda unless there are other unreported players going to MIN from LA, but there has been no indication of that.
asssuming reports of 1/2 price contract going to dodgers, quick math says sox are approx $25M under the $208 tax hitHow far under the cap does this put us?
For 1 year of a top 5 player.2 prospects with injury concerns. Brusdar could very well become a reliever. Sorry but for a top 5 player this needs to be more. Even with the money being saved.