BOB is the new OC at Ohio State

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And there we go, rumors were right.

Big impact on the Patriots' OC search I'd assume (also may be an indication Mayo didn't want him back).
 

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I think this is a good thing. Allows Mayo to start fresh without pressure.
Yup, and even more why I don't want Josh back. Him and BOB were coaches during his playing time and that might create a weird dynamic, and Josh was the heir apparent before Mayo. Maybe none of that would matter but I'd rather remove the chance completely. I want new voices on the O side
 

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Unless Josh is rehired, Mac (if he's back) will have had five OC in four seasons
 

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I'm very happy--as long as Mayo brings in a new person. I think an encore from Josh would be a serious misstep.
 

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Thank God. With the way things ended up Philly, you have to think this is being held for Matt Patricia.
 

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What a smart move from BoB. As good as Day has been, he keeps losing to UM and getting outcoached by Harbaugh, he has one more loss to give before getting the boot and then BoB can take over.
 

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Nick Caley and Keenan McCardell interviewed for the position last season. Maybe they get a second look from Mayo.

McDaniels has to be considered the favorite right now though. He’s been hanging around the team since the last week of the season.
 

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I'm surprised. I would have thought he might have a shot at a head coaching job in the college ranks.
Personally, I hope they stay away from Josh. Clean break please.
i think he wants to go to OSU, have their offense put up big numbers (basically every college job he's had the QB had a huge year) then get a premium HC job if he wants it. Plus OSU probably pays more for it's OC than an NFL team, or than most colleges pay their HC.
 

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Unless Josh is rehired, Mac (if he's back) will have had five OC in four seasons
Perhaps I need my sarcasm meter checked, but I think it’s unlikely Mac is on the team next season. He may well have a career ahead of him as a backup, or may even develop into a below-average but capable starter. But not here.
 

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Perhaps I need my sarcasm meter checked, but I think it’s unlikely Mac is on the team next season. He may well have a career ahead of him as a backup, or may even develop into a below-average but capable starter. But not here.
No sarcasm intended, which is why I included the "if" with Mac
 

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I think there is a pretty good chance the entire offensive staff gets whacked.
 

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O’Brien will be bringing with him a suspiciously older looking “recruit” named Zac Jones.
I heard Jac Mones entering the transfer portal.

This is good news on the whole imo. I do think this is the time to revitalize the coaching talent on the staff by bringing in new minds. There was too much of an echo chamber quality during the last few years in bringing back the Belichick retreads.

I remember Russillo on his pod a few months back talking to someone (Michael Lombardi?) about the "Belichick doesn't want to coach coaches at this point" statement that the person Russillo was talking to had reported-- and I'm paraphrasing the statement.

It really stuck with me, and if this was true, even partially, it could be seen as BB not preparing for the game in the same way he did ten years ago. And its understandable. He's older and maybe not the same person with the same capacity to oversee and manage all facets of the organization like he used to.

I'm excited to see who they bring in to interview.
 

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I'd be interested in Mayo looking at maybe trying to get Eric Bieniemy.
I wouldn't, he was pretty terrible this year when he didn't have Reid to lean on as the playcaller, and he does not appear to have endeared himself to the players in the lockerroom
 

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Between this and them hiring A&M athletic director Bjork, I’m convinced they’re trying to tank the program. No other explanation.
 
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Nick Caley and Keenan McCardell interviewed for the position last season. Maybe they get a second look from Mayo.

McDaniels has to be considered the favorite right now though. He’s been hanging around the team since the last week of the season.
Isn't McDaniels almost certainly going with BB to ATL or wherever he ends up?
 

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I think there is a pretty good chance the entire offensive staff gets whacked.
Probably so. I would think Rothstein goes with BOB. Klemm is already gone. The new OC probably picks the other position coaches. Would love to see Troy do something with his coaching career but it doesn't seem off to a great start.
 

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That would make some sense. I agree with the posters above that I don't want him back here -- let Mayo coach without the ghosts of the past hanging over him.
It also seems like following BB is best for JMcD’s career and gives him the best chance at ever being a HC again. Hitch oneself to BB, hope for success, and be well positioned as BB’s recommended successor. Perhaps a long shot, but may be the best hope he’s got.
 

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Good. I thought BoB did a lousy job this year. I didn’t want him back.

I’m fine with McDaniels coming back if Mayo wants him. He’s an actually good OC. I’d be fine with bringing in fresh blood as well.
 

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I can see why he viewed the Ohio State job as a step up, especially if he wants to return to being a NCAA head coach. Being an OC for a rookie head coach on a team that needs a QB, OL and WR talent infusion is not the most ideal position for someone in Bill O'Brien's shoes.

I never quite understood the hate here for Bill O'Brien, as he wasn't really a problem last season. I thought he tried to call plays where Mac was able to get the ball out quickly; just that either the OL (early in the season) or Mac failed at their jobs because the talent was nonexistent. I do feel that Mayo would benefit from a veteran presence on the sideline, and that is lacking right now, especially if Joe Judge moves on. Well, another item added to Mayo's task list.
 

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That would make some sense. I agree with the posters above that I don't want him back here -- let Mayo coach without the ghosts of the past hanging over him.
He could fire everyone and all Krafts could die, and the team could move to Dubuque, and the ghosts of the past would still be there. If Mayo wants McD, thats good enough for me. McDs skills as an OC are beyond me to evaluate.
 

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And there we go, rumors were right.

Big impact on the Patriots' OC search I'd assume (also may be an indication Mayo didn't want him back).
A story I have heard (thirdhand account from someone who has worked for BOB) is that BOB thinks Mayo is a fraud and would never have worked for him. Given the vague sourcing I would view a claim like this skeptically, but it is what I heard.
 

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He could fire everyone and all Krafts could die, and the team could move to Dubuque, and the ghosts of the past would still be there. If Mayo wants McD, thats good enough for me. McDs skills as an OC are beyond me to evaluate.
I don’t know. It’s a long way to Dubuque.
 

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A story I have heard (thirdhand account from someone who has worked for BOB) is that BOB thinks Mayo is a fraud and would never have worked for him. Given the vague sourcing I would view a claim like this skeptically, but it is what I heard.
This third-hand account you have passed along, thereby making it fourth hand, that you yourself are skeptical of leaves me feeling…skeptical.
 

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This third-hand account you have passed along, thereby making it fourth hand, that you yourself are skeptical of leaves me feeling…skeptical.
Not that this clarifies anything matters much, but if BOB is hand 1 in this story, I am hand 4 and you all are hand 5.
 

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I could see an old school, tough guy like BOB thinking that Mayo is a bit of a fraud. Their viewpoints on football mentality seem almost polar opposite.
 

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Don't know that BOB thought OSU was an upgrade. He may have known been told he wasn't coming back. OCs of the worst offense in the league don't generally survive coaching changes.


McDaniels has to be considered the favorite right now though. He’s been hanging around the team since the last week of the season.
Wasn't aware McDaniels was still around. I'd be OK with him. Still hope they look at some of others around the league and college.
 

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I hope Josh comes in — the loss of the HC, OC, at least one of the co-DC’s (Mayo moves up and Steve B TBD). the OL coach, and more losses to come following BB wherever is too much of a clean break for me.

Also I fear it makes Achord and Judge more likely to be asked to return, and that’s the dead wood I really want cleared.
 

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I hope Josh comes in — the loss of the HC, OC, at least one of the co-DC’s (Mayo moves up and Steve B TBD). the OL coach, and more losses to come following BB wherever is too much of a clean break for me.

Also I fear it makes Achord and Judge more likely to be asked to return, and that’s the dead wood I really want cleared.
I doubt Judge and Achord are returning. Mayo already sought permission to interview the Falcons ST coordinator. Staff changes were inevitable. It’s not like this was some amazing staff. Frankly the only coaches I want back are BB’s kids and DL coach Covington. Everyone else can take a hike.