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Yeah, but the article also says that Jeter dove into the stands to catch a foul ball, so we should probably take any other information with a grain of salt.
 

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He stated the game July 1st ,2004 at Yankee Stadium when Jeter flew into the stands and Nomar sat on the bench.
 

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Heise3B said:
He stated the game July 1st ,2004 at Yankee Stadium when Jeter flew into the stands and Nomar sat on the bench.
Jeter didn't just fly. He soared like a majestic bird who flies as close to the brilliant sun as anyone can without being burned. Instead, Nomar was scorched and he would never again be the same.

The lesson here is that if you are not Jeter or Nick Wallenda, do not attempt to go higher than everyone else.

And RIP, young Brad Halsey.
 

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in a game made famous by Derek Jeter's dive into the stands to catch a foul ball.
 
 
Words have meaning, and what they say here doesn't come close to matching the reality. Was the ball he caught even in foul territory?
 
More accurately it would read "Jeter catching a fair ball and then running and diving into the crowd".
 

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mt8thsw9th said:
 
Words have meaning, and what they say here doesn't come close to matching the reality. Was the ball he caught even in foul territory?
 
More accurately it would read "Jeter catching a fair ball and then running and diving into the crowd".
 
Fortunately, we have video:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seC63AEk4-8
 
Jeter caught the ball about 6-10 feet from the foul line (IN PLAY) and another 20 or so from the stands. But because he was a clunky oaf of a shortstop who was running out of control because he was so damn slow to react to pretty much everything in play he careened into the stands.
 
Meanwhile Pokey smoothly glides under a ball in the same spot right at the wall (in the same game no less) and is forgotten:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaXZSkl1JZI
 

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Nah dude, not even. I'm not dumb, I expect Yankee ripping round these parts. I just think it's (truly, not being sarcastic) hilarious that you guys even find ways to rip on Jeter for the stuff he's actually good at, like tracking pop-ups and shallow fly balls. He was actually legitimately good at that, all Jeter love aside. I just love the creativity - you guys have stepped it up from "pasta diving Jeter" because honestly that shit was too easy.
 

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Guys, can we please keep the focus on the victim here? Bill Hapley has a family!
 

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cromulence said:
Nah dude, not even. I'm not dumb, I expect Yankee ripping round these parts. I just think it's (truly, not being sarcastic) hilarious that you guys even find ways to rip on Jeter for the stuff he's actually good at, like tracking pop-ups and shallow fly balls. He was actually legitimately good at that, all Jeter love aside. I just love the creativity - you guys have stepped it up from "pasta diving Jeter" because honestly that shit was too easy.
 
That is so sad. That a baseball player receives adulation for tracking pop-ups. Where is my life time achievement award for not walking into cars?
 

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Max Power said:
That picture is precious.
 
It reinforces what I have thought for years.  I was at that game, sitting 3 or 4 rows behind the Sox dugout.  When the ball left Nixon's bat, I knew it was going to be caught.  I was a catcher way back when and have a habit since my playing days of saying "that's caught" when I think a ball will be caught, and I did that then.  I also did not think it would require anyone to go to extremes.  When Jeter dove into the stands after catching it, I was shocked.  Ever since, I have been told that he had no choice, by Yankees and Sox fans, alike.
 
Now maybe it's partially the angle of that shot and of course Jeter was hauling ass.  But damn, there's a lot of green and dirt between CI -- who is still alive, I might add -- and that wall.
 

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rembrat said:
 
That is so sad. That a baseball player receives adulation for tracking pop-ups. Where is my life time achievement award for not walking into cars?
 
I agree - when discussing Jeter's D, you have to reach for praise. But hey, dude kicked ass at pop-ups. Fucking DOMINATED them.
 
JohntheBaptist said:
 
Nah dude, not even.
 
Cmon bra, that was a stylistic choice. If you would prefer a more intelligent tone, I am more than happy to oblige. I apologize if I offended your sensibilities.
 

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JohntheBaptist said:
I'm just making fun of you. It's a Yankee thread, you seemed a lil butthurt. All in good fun.
 
I categorically hate intelligent tones!
 
It's a difficult line to straddle. If I try to engage you guys on Yankee-hating topics, I come across as offended, even if I'm not. If I try to go over the top with the assurances that I'm in on the joke, it defuses the fun. So I usually sit it out, or maybe drop a drive-by one-liner like I did here. Really, it was the Pokey Reese mini-sploogefest that pushed me to post. Sox fans have an irrational love for that guy.
 

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cromulence said:
 
Really, it was the Pokey Reese mini-sploogefest that pushed me to post. Sox fans have an irrational love for that guy.
 
I can't speak for the Pokey love outside of this one particular game, but there's no denying that his catch that night was categorically more difficult and more impressive than Jeter's.  No matter their feelings toward the guy, it's perfectly defensible for Sox fans to want to bring him and that catch up every time Jeter's overrated nosedive is referenced, particularly if it is in the context of calling the game the "Jeter dive" game.
 

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Red(s)HawksFan said:
 
I can't speak for the Pokey love outside of this one particular game, but there's no denying that his catch that night was categorically more difficult and more impressive than Jeter's.  No matter their feelings toward the guy, it's perfectly defensible for Sox fans to want to bring him and that catch up every time Jeter's overrated nosedive is referenced, particularly if it is in the context of calling the game the "Jeter dive" game.
 
I honestly don't remember the catch at all, and that's true for pretty much every non-Sox fan. I'm sure it was better, but Jeter's was during a bigger moment and that's how things go. The only thing that does bug me is when people claim Jeter was trying to be dramatic or whatever with the dive into the stands. He said himself that he was trying to jump over the concrete pit that's next to the wall (where he'd fallen before) but it didn't work out very well. I guess I've never understood why Sox fans are so bitter about that catch and the way it's remembered. Maybe because of the Nomar stuff? 
 

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By the way, I'd just like to apologize to poor Brad Halsey. Even in death, he gets overshadowed by bigger stars in MLB.
 

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I don't know about bitter, but I think Sox fans are more willing than any other fan base to refuse the opportunity to lick Jeters balls at any opportunity. Jeter is literally the only shortstop in recent memory that could turn that into a difficult play and manage to make a show out of it.
 

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Guys, let's at least wait for the autopsy before we speculate about whether he accidentally fell or intentionally jumped. Jeter's family has already been through enough.