Will be interesting to see if they max out Barnes and how GS reacts...Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA 3m3 minutes ago
Sources: Brooklyn is out of the running on free agent Marvin Williams, who continues to discuss parameters of a deal to return to Charlotte.
Unless Durant comes they match and keep the asset.Will be interesting to see if they max out Barnes and how GS reacts...
Brooklyn's offseason looks exactly like the kind of thing a money-conscious FO would do if they had already had a strong core at the heart of their team.Trevor Booker to the Nets.
I know I sound like a broken record but nobody can properly value a pick that can be anywhere from 1 to 6 even if the Nets are one of the 4 worst teams in the league. Even as the team with THE worst record there is less than a 50% chance of the pick being 1 or 2.......so nobody is going to value it as such today. This is why the pick almost certainly won't be moved until after the lottery next summer at the earliest once the proper value can be established.Is Danny and the NBA ready to value that pick as the number one or number two pick? If so, I hope we can stop hearing pepople say "they have the Nets picks."
I doubt that they are overly concerned with reaching the floor since there isn't an actual penalty for not doing so.Add Joe Harris and Anthony Bennett to the Brooklyn squad.
And now Randy Foye.
How are they getting to the salary floor with these type of signings?
Yeah that's basically not possible, there essentially are no bad contracts at the moment. Or at least no bad contracts that a team has an incentive to dump with assets. Too many teams have cap space and there are no FAs available, so until at least next offseason no team has an incentive to pay an asset to dump a contract.Salary floor is relatively meaningless. If they don't hit it, the difference is dispersed to the players on the roster.
I see them as good candidates to take on bad contracts to snag some assets moving forward anyway.
So I guess this makes it official that the Nets have run up the white flag on this year.Add Joe Harris and Anthony Bennett to the Brooklyn squad.
And now Randy Foye.
How are they getting to the salary floor with these type of signings?
What other choices have they had? They aren't looking to tank on purpose......no FA of any worth want to play there and they have no assets to trade that would improve the team immediately. It is going to be a long process to dig out of this hole.So I guess this makes it official that the Nets have run up the white flag on this year.
That's not necessarily true. If the cap is "only" $102 million next year you'll find teams trying to get off money by the deadline in hopes of opening a max slot next summer. The unbridled enthusiasm shown this summer is going to put a few teams in a sticky cap situation in the near future.Yeah that's basically not possible, there essentially are no bad contracts at the moment. Or at least no bad contracts that a team has an incentive to dump with assets. Too many teams have cap space and there are no FAs available, so until at least next offseason no team has an incentive to pay an asset to dump a contract.
That's 1 Bropez injury away from being a glorified D-League squad. I'm really excited. No excuses for the Celtics to lose to these turds next year.This is a bad roster:
Lin/Vazquez/Whitehead
RHJ/Foye/Kilpatrick
Bogdanovich/Levert/Joe Harris
Booker/Scola/McCullough/Bennett
Lopez/Hamilton
Were I them, I would try to stay below the floor in hopes of extracting a draft pick for taking a bad contract off of someone's hands.I doubt that they are overly concerned with reaching the floor since there isn't an actual penalty for not doing so.
That's nice in theory but does that really ever happen though? With the exploding cap are there even any "bad" contracts out there.......aside from Evan Turner in about 5 months?Were I them, I would try to stay below the floor in hopes of extracting a draft pick for taking a bad contract off of someone's hands.
It used to happen all the time. But it would be hard to use the cap room this year since every old contract is reasonable now with the cap increasing so dramatically.That's nice in theory but does that really ever happen though? With the exploding cap are there even any "bad" contracts out there.......aside from Evan Turner in about 5 months?
Final 15 man roster as we approach the opener:This is a bad roster:
Lin/Vazquez/Whitehead
RHJ/Foye/Kilpatrick
Bogdanovich/Levert/Joe Harris
Booker/Scola/McCullough/Bennett
Lopez/Hamilton
"With the first overall pick in the 2017 NBA Draft the Boston Celtics select......"Final 15 man roster as we approach the opener:
Lin/Vasquez/Whitehead/
Hollis-Jefferson/Foye/Kilpatrick
Bogdanovich/Harris/Levert
Booker/Bennett/McCullough
Lopez/Scola/Hamilton
I don't know about this. They are fighting with Philly and the Lakers early on for this "honor" and both of those teams look mighty improved.......the Sixers with Embiid and the Lakers minus Kobe which alone elevates them.They didn't look like the worst team in the NBA last night, unfortunately.
Agreed. At the end of the day I don't think many teams got appreciably worse this offseason, at least not to the point of falling behind where the Nets are.As bad as their talent is, I do think they've improved since last year. They're going to be much better coached, and they'll pretty much have the green light from Atkinson to take as many 3s as they can, which will win them the odd game that they shouldn't have any business winning.
That said, even an overperforming Nets team is probably a bottom 3 team, and they'll shop Lopez if he can stay healthy until the deadline.
It looks like Nets are playing hard and they take the 2nd most 3Ps in the league (37.3, behind DAL with 38.5) so you are correct that they are going to win the odd game here or there when the 3s are falling. Let's just hope it's 1-2 games and not 5-10 this year.Color me concerned early.
They are a scrappy bunch with a rookie head coach which is always a dangerous recipe for overachieving even if it is to a 31-win season. Atkinson is rookie coach with a fresh voice and has an entire team of hungry players without the Entitled ones on long term deals. Only Lopez, Booker and Lin have significant salaries guaranteed for next season. Of those three.....Lopez is a true professional and always a hard worker, same with Lin and Booker seems to be cut out of that same cloth.
The team plays to today's analytics which can make a big difference on those winter nights when teams discount the Nets while their 3's are falling. After seeing these first 3 games I'm legitimately concerned about the Nets landing in the 5th to 10th pick as opposed to sure fire top 3 as I had anticipated.
During Brook's previous 8 seasons he's played all 82 games three times and between 72-74 games in three others.and the annual Lopez injury.
In 2 of the last 5 seasons he's played less than 20 games and hasn't topped 74.During Brook's previous 8 seasons he's played all 82 games three times and between 72-74 games in three others.
Which of course isn't "annual" either. It's 2 out of 5 when in the other 3 years he never missed a game.In 2 of the last 5 seasons he's played less than 20 games and hasn't topped 74.
I don't think his first 3 seasons on the league hold much merit as the last 5. He broke his right leg in 2011-2012 to miss the season, he missed 7 games in 2012-13 for a rolled ankle, In 2013-14, he missed the whole year due to a foot injury. In 2014-15, he missed the first 2 games with a foot injury and in December missed 8 games with a back injury. He did play all 73 games last year before being shut down to avoid injury. This year, they are actively limiting his minutes to avoid injury as well.Which of course isn't "annual" either. It's 2 out of 5 when in the other 3 years he never missed a game.
74 out of 82 games IS considered a durable player which Lopez has reached in 6 of his 8 seasons . To put this into context we've seen 9 seasons of Olynyk, Smart, and Sullinger in Boston......the only season of those 9 where one played greater than 74 games was last season and it was Sullinger.
No. His history doesn't fit that narrative when you are calling playing in 90% of the games being an "annual injury." That is a very good ratio for any player.So in 4 of the last 5 years, he has missed a bunch of games due to injury. Guess that doesn't fit your narrative though.
Except he doesn't play in 90% of his games. He's played in 59% of his games since 10-11 and missed 2 out of 5 seasons pretty much completely. He hasn't played in 90% of his games since 2012-2013. But don't let facts get in the way. He is oft injured. You can rely on him to go down at some point in miss 2 weeks to a month of the year. Agree to disagree. You are arguing a player isn't injury prone when he's literally missed 2 seasons and is being heavily monitored this year due to his foot. But ok.No. His history doesn't fit that narrative when you are calling playing in 90% of the games being an "annual injury." That is a very good ratio for any player.