Bruins to call up David Pastrnak
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While I am excited about this news, I hope Pastrnak has put on 15 lbs. of muscle since training camp.
Whatever. Excited to see him play!
Whatever. Excited to see him play!
B's made it official this morning. Caron joins him, and the item of note is that both players are not on emergency recall which signals they could be here for a bit.
Chara went on LTIR too. Eligible to come off whenever, and he did skate today.
Chara went on LTIR too. Eligible to come off whenever, and he did skate today.
Pastrnak already looks as comfortable in the NHL as any draft year Bruin rookie forward other than Bergeron.
His ability to work in tight spaces reminds me of Sergei Samsonov, although I think his style of play is different.
If he keeps playing like this it will be hard to send him back down after 9 games... and he could be that rare rookie who is actually worth keeping around in his draft year.
His ability to work in tight spaces reminds me of Sergei Samsonov, although I think his style of play is different.
If he keeps playing like this it will be hard to send him back down after 9 games... and he could be that rare rookie who is actually worth keeping around in his draft year.
He has unreal hands and seems very calm. A couple dumb rookie mistakes, but overall very solid so far.
I think my favorite part was that he was never caught standing still. There were a couple times during the game when Winnipeg turned the puck back the other way and he did a good job of getting back on defense, and that is really nice to see from a kid so young.
was at the game last night, fortunately in the Balcony. It was a lot of fun watching the puck continually finding it's way to Pasta. You could literally just watch him on his shifts and you pretty much didn't miss any action.
I also was very impressed when he whiffed on that shot, and still got a pretty nice shot off on the 2nd chance. Great skills.
I also was very impressed when he whiffed on that shot, and still got a pretty nice shot off on the 2nd chance. Great skills.
I really hope this kid sticks the rest of the year. Led the Bruins in shots against the Jets (I think?) and it's only a matter of time before more them make their way into the net.
It's too bad we're so banged up - seems like he could be the finisher the first line needs so badly.
It's too bad we're so banged up - seems like he could be the finisher the first line needs so badly.
Likely to avoid burning the first year of his ELC. I don't expect to see him play more than 9 NHL games this season unless something out of the ordinary happens.BoSoxFink said:
Does anyone know if playoff games count towards a the 10 game limit? Could they call him up for the playoffs and keep from staring his ELC?
veritas said:
Eddie Jurak said:
Capgeek opines that both regular season and playoff games count :
http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-does-an-entry-level-contract-slide
" If a player aged 18 or 19 signs an entry-level contract with a club (with his age calculated on Sept. 15 of the year he signed the contract) but does not play in at least 10 NHL games — regular season or playoffs — the contract will "slide" or be extended one year. "
It will be interesting to see if they let him go play in the World Junior Championships. I hope he does, and then comes back to Providence (rather than going back to Sweden).
Sometime in November JFJ had a a quote where he said the plan was indeed for Pastrnak to play at the WJC's so I assume that's still happening.
One thing to keep in mind with Pastrnak is that so far in his careerthe most games in a season he has played is 36. So there's a good chance he hits a wall, 36 to 82 is a huge leap.
One thing to keep in mind with Pastrnak is that so far in his careerthe most games in a season he has played is 36. So there's a good chance he hits a wall, 36 to 82 is a huge leap.
B's officially announce that Pastrnak is being assigned to the Czech team for the WJC's. I wonder if this was a team concession to get him to play the year in Providence instead of going back to Sweden.
http://bruins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=743729
http://bruins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=743729
Nesn reporting Pastrnak will return to the big club after the world juniors and the intention is for him to skate on the Krejci line.
Dig it. The 9 game threshold for the ELC slide includes playoff games, so chances were they'd have to burn the year anyhow.
This should also help Chiarelli's leverage in trade talks to bring in a RW - it's a lot easier for trade partners to hold out for an extra prospect/pick if the B's are skating Craig Cunningham than if Pastrnak's on RW1. Lineup isn't looking so bad with everyone healthy, would still like to see them bring in a 2nd pair defender and the ever-elusive scorer to drop Kelly to line 4 and Campbell out of the lineup (pipe dream I know)
Lucic - Krejci - Pastrnak
Marchand - Bergeron - Smith
Kelly - Söderberg - Eriksson
Paille - Campbell - Cunningham/callup du jour
This should also help Chiarelli's leverage in trade talks to bring in a RW - it's a lot easier for trade partners to hold out for an extra prospect/pick if the B's are skating Craig Cunningham than if Pastrnak's on RW1. Lineup isn't looking so bad with everyone healthy, would still like to see them bring in a 2nd pair defender and the ever-elusive scorer to drop Kelly to line 4 and Campbell out of the lineup (pipe dream I know)
Lucic - Krejci - Pastrnak
Marchand - Bergeron - Smith
Kelly - Söderberg - Eriksson
Paille - Campbell - Cunningham/callup du jour
Love it. This feels like a move that says they know they are close to being a contender this year (which I agree with if everyone is healthy), and they want to get some offense and get Pastrnak as much experience as they can before the playoffs start.
Those top three lines look so much better the way PSK has them than they have been.
Those top three lines look so much better the way PSK has them than they have been.
LogansDad said:
Agreed 100%. I'll even go a step further...
http://youtu.be/122gYbvvjzo
I've been doing a little digging and also came up with a name the Bruins might be looking at with their scouting of St. Louis. What's the SOSH view and skinny on Joakim Lindstrom? Here's some things I've noticed in my preliminary research.
-Journeyman NHL Swede (31) could play either wing.
-Lit up the 2014 WC and tied 5th for scoring with Ovechkin.
-Has steadily progressed in scoring.
-Not great +/- differentials.
-Plays hard for a European player. Has led his Swedish team in points and penalty minutes.
-Has played with Loui at various points on the Swedish national team. (2:04 in video, I think?)
-One year deal at 700K.
Most of the numbers appear to line up as far as I can tell.
-Contract is up after this year.
-Cheap: 700K. Cut Gagne and it's almost a wash.
-Versatile. Maintain your organizational depth.
So you try to pry him away from St. Louis for one of or a mix of a pick/cash considerations/prospect.
So then you're looking at:
Lucic - Krejci - Pastrnak
Marchand - Bergeron - Smith
Lindstrom - Soderberg - Eriksson
Paille - Kelly - Campbell
Overall speed and skill just went up on the offensive end, and not insignificantly. With Krejci back playing with the kid, Lindstrom amplifies the success of Loui and Yeti, and you bump Kelly to power a fourth line that can out-skate and score any opponent's fourth line.
The things I don't know:
-What does St. Louis think about him? Is a vital cog for their team?
-Is he a one zone player and could he adapt to the system? Is there enough time?
-Other issues that point to why he is a journeyman NHL player to begin with.
Maybe I'm hitting the Eggnog too hard, but it's an idea. Thoughts?
kenneycb said:
I'm not sure what their internal view of him is and how critical he is to their success. He doesn't get an overwhelming amount of ice time and his +/- aren't great compared to their better players. It's a one year deal, and if he's not an essential cog, would they be open to future assets in return?
I'm not sure Lindstrom would even be an upgrade to Gagne. There's a reason he's a journeyman. Only gets ~11:30 TOI/G. Doesn't contribute much on either special teams unit. 55% OZone start, but he's still a negative possession player (-2.34 CorsiOn; -4.5 CorsiRel per 60). Outside of the SEL, Lindstrom has never really scored. 0.34 career PPG in the NHL, 0.55 in the KHL versus his 0.70 in the SEL. He's not very good and not worth pursuing. I'd rather give that ice time to a Cunningham/Griffith/Spooner type prospect and hope tone of them breaks out.
I'm glad they're going to give Pastrnak another look, I just hope they don't view him as the savior of the season. They can still do better.
I'm glad they're going to give Pastrnak another look, I just hope they don't view him as the savior of the season. They can still do better.
I think this is a mistake. It's time to stick a fork in the 2014-15 Bruins. Pastrnak or no Pasternak, they aren't a playoff team. Makes no sense under these circumstances to take any actions that will have no major impact on this season but will make things a little (or more than a little) harder 2-3 years from now.
I think he should go back to Providence and spend the season there. He's in a unique situation in that he doesn't have to be returned to a junior team, and the European pro team he was on wasn't in his native country. Chiarelli is going to play him in Boston, simply because if it works he doesn't have to make a trade (every GM in the league knows he needs to make a move so I'm sure all he's hearing are shit offers) and if this team is as bad as it looks now he might not be here in 3 years when Pastrnak's ELC is up anyway.
I want Pastrnak playing on the first line with Krecji and Lucic ASAP. I want him there for the rest of the season.
Legitimate experience on the first line, where he can make a difference + Building chemistry with Krecji/Lucic + Experience at the NHL level > burning a year of ELC.
Legitimate experience on the first line, where he can make a difference + Building chemistry with Krecji/Lucic + Experience at the NHL level > burning a year of ELC.
For the team that trades for him in two years, when the Bruins cannot fit him under their cap, yes.AMcGhie said:
Pastrnak can get his pro experience in Providence this year.
There's more to be considered than just experience v. ELC.
His longest season in Sweden was 36 games. He's already played 30 games this year between Boston, Providence and the WJC's. He could very we'll be headed into a wall. 36 games to 80+ is a significant leap. He's also listed165 lbs. Physically, can he withstand the rigors of the day-to-day beating he's going to take in the NHL? Then there's the whole dropping him on the first line in the thick of a playoff race thing. Can he withstand that pressure? He's given the appearance of being ready, but you never really know. The Bruins are taking on considerable risk not related to the ELC year if they choose to keep him in Boston. They could negatively impact his development. His development should be a priority for the team. If Boston is the place to do it then great, if not play him 4 more games then keep him in Providence.
His longest season in Sweden was 36 games. He's already played 30 games this year between Boston, Providence and the WJC's. He could very we'll be headed into a wall. 36 games to 80+ is a significant leap. He's also listed165 lbs. Physically, can he withstand the rigors of the day-to-day beating he's going to take in the NHL? Then there's the whole dropping him on the first line in the thick of a playoff race thing. Can he withstand that pressure? He's given the appearance of being ready, but you never really know. The Bruins are taking on considerable risk not related to the ELC year if they choose to keep him in Boston. They could negatively impact his development. His development should be a priority for the team. If Boston is the place to do it then great, if not play him 4 more games then keep him in Providence.
Pastrnak is back from the WJC's and the B's returned him to Providence where he'll play today. Chiarelli says the team has no plans to bring him back up anytime soon.
Hooray for common sense. There's no need to burn a year of his ELC to force the kid to be a savior to this aborted season.cshea said: