It is only like that for this year. Once Kyrie signs a new deal, they can acquire someone who was signed with the Rose Rule.
It is only like that for this year. Once Kyrie signs a new deal, they can acquire someone who was signed with the Rose Rule.
I'm not sure this is correct as The Rose Rule changed in the new CBA that eliminated the restriciton of only one of the two contracts could be acquired by trade. I'm also not even certain that Kyrie's deal counts toward one of the two since he wasn't signed under The Rose Rule.
Kawhi is also on a 5 year extension. Does that me we couldn't acquire him without sending Kyrie out?Kyrie got the fifth year on his rookie extension, which is the determining factor in being a Designated Player.
I had no idea what the Rose Rule was until your post but apparently, that is incorrect insofar as the Cs would have to get Kyrie off their roster to trade for Davis - can only have one player with a 5 year rookie extension on a team at any time. http://www.celticslife.com/2018/06/the-derrick-rose-rule-any-celtics-trade.html
Link in post above says that KL doesn't qualify since he didn't sign his 5 year extension until he was a RFA so he's not in the Rose Rule category.Kawhi is also on a 5 year extension. Does that me we couldn't acquire him without sending Kyrie out?
Because it’s an inane rule and the majority of guys don’t even know it exists, let alone applies and are looking for an audience since AD to Boston is sexy?How has this not been talked about more? I listen to a decent amount of basketball podcasts, and there has been the talk of an AD to BOS at some point in nearly every single one of them. And I have never heard this brought up in relation to that
Unless he's willing to sign for the MLE, he's not coming to Boston.PG13 thinking East instead of West? NBA is bonkers.
https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/6/28/17516382/paul-george-mentions-the-celtics-as-potential-destination?utm_campaign=celticsblog&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
There are some sign and trades with Smart+filler that would work. Would depend on what OKC thinks of Smart at 10M+; Marcus would probably do it to be near Dallas.Unless he's willing to sign for the MLE, he's not coming to Boston.
How much better than Tatum is George the next two years?PG13 thinking East instead of West? NBA is bonkers.
https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/6/28/17516382/paul-george-mentions-the-celtics-as-potential-destination?utm_campaign=celticsblog&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
How much better than Tatum is George the next two years?
Sign and trades are a thing.Unless he's willing to sign for the MLE, he's not coming to Boston.
How are you putting together $25 million? Remember, you can only use Smart for half his contract value, even if he'd agree to it.Sign and trades are a thing.
Did you post in the Lebron thread that we'd only be able to get him on the MLE? There were ways to fit Lebron, so there are certainly ways to fit George.How are you putting together $25 million? Remember, you can only use Smart for half his contract value, even if he'd agree to it.
I would probably trade Kyrie for George if George would be willing to sign for 3+ years. I’m not at all convinced that Kyrie sticks around after this year. Problem is that OKC obviously has no use for Kyrie so you’d need to find a 3rd team. George would be a perfect wing for Brad and is still only 28.Did you post in the Lebron thread that we'd only be able to get him on the MLE? There were ways to fit Lebron, so there are certainly ways to fit George.
Now, I'm not saying they should, but Kyrie and Morris and flotsam gets it done.
No, because Lebron is better than our current max contract players. Paul George isn't.Did you post in the Lebron thread that we'd only be able to get him on the MLE? There were ways to fit Lebron, so there are certainly ways to fit George.
Now, I'm not saying they should, but Kyrie and Morris and flotsam gets it done.
Okay. But that's a different argument, and maybe I agree with you. But PG13 can certainly get to Boston with a sign and trade.No, because Lebron is better than our current max contract players. Paul George isn't.
Getting rid of uncertainty is nice and all, but I'm not sure that George is an upgrade on Kyrie. He's not in close to the same tier as Kawhi.Okay. But that's a different argument, and maybe I agree with you. But PG13 can certainly get to Boston with a sign and trade.
If PG13 mentions Boston then he's likely willing to sign here for more than a year. The Celtics may or may not decide that's better than the uncertainty around Kyrie.
I think George and Kyrie are comparable talents once you factor in both offense and defense. Neither player is a top 5 guy like a healthy Kawhi is.Getting rid of uncertainty is nice and all, but I'm not sure that George is an upgrade on Kyrie. He's not in close to the same tier as Kawhi.
Personally I don't feel George is as impactful as Kyrie in the playoffs and we're loaded with wings. I never even consider that trade and I feel too many are assuming Kyrie is a rental based on some innocuous report.Getting rid of uncertainty is nice and all, but I'm not sure that George is an upgrade on Kyrie. He's not in close to the same tier as Kawhi.
"We're going to take a look and kick the tires and see if there's something there. But that's all.
"I think those things are unlikely."
So, when is Kawhi's intro press conference?Ainge: Blockbuster deal for Celtics not likely to happen.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23945615/boston-celtics-danny-ainge-calls-potential-blockbuster-deals-unlikely
A blockbuster was never likely but he didn't rule it out either. These things move quickly and I'm not sure we can read much from a pre-FA press conference. With that said, simple math indicates that he's not BSing here. LeBron is going to LA. George is probably going to follow. Kawhi is hanging out there as really the only possible blockbuster. Where I think it gets interesting is if Kawhi to LA doesn't materialize and Ainge then has to worry about Philly getting him. At that point, he may feel compelled to step in. A team of Embiid/Kawhi/Simmons with quality role players would be a beast of a team to deal with.Ainge: Blockbuster deal for Celtics not likely to happen.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23945615/boston-celtics-danny-ainge-calls-potential-blockbuster-deals-unlikely
Good God no.Should the Celtics go after Jamal Crawford?
Probably not at the price he'd want? I mean, for the ring-chasing minimum, sure.Should the Celtics go after Jamal Crawford?
He'd be alright as a microwave 2nd unit guy I imagine, but I don't think it moves the needle much either way.There's apparently interest by Golden State, so I don't think the 38 year old is asking for much.
Shot about his career average overall last year, still a good FT shooter, but I can't imagine his defense is where we'd want it.
What possible reason do you have for thinking this might be a good idea?Should the Celtics go after Jamal Crawford?
Hell to the no. Crawford couldn’t defend Kobe Bryant to a room full of Laker fans. Ten years ago. Besides, it’ll be funnier when the Lakers sign him to ring chase with LeBron and DeMarcus Cousins. Hopefully they find a way to hang on to LaVar ... errr ... I mean Lonzo Ball.Should the Celtics go after Jamal Crawford?
Solely offense from 2nd unit if he comes cheap.What possible reason do you have for thinking this might be a good idea?
Rather get Tyreke with the MLE.Solely offense from 2nd unit if he comes cheap.
This means that the Celtics should be able to afford another max if Kyrie bolts, but only if they let Smart walk if he gets a multiyear offer. This becomes a very interesting decision for Ainge.Very important information buried in the NBA's salary cap memo sent to teams: projection for 2019-20 cap up to $109 million, and then $116 million for 2020-21. Cap is set at $101.9M for upcoming 2018-19 season.
You need cap space to renegotiate and increase salary (the Sixers did it with Covington this year and I believe OK did it with Russ so right before he signed his supermax).This is good news:
This means that the Celtics should be able to afford another max if Kyrie bolts, but only if they let Smart walk if he gets a multiyear offer. This becomes a very interesting decision for Ainge.
Maybe if Smart gets a longer term offer, Ainge will agree to overpay him for this upcoming season for a one year deal to keep him around. Then they could use his Bird rights next season to keep him and sign another max if Kyrie leaves? Is it within NBA rules to increase a player’s salary for a given season, should both sides agree?
Just shows you how smart Danny is. Re-up Smart and enjoy the rest of the summer. If someone wants to make an offer on Rozier or Morris...let's talk. This team is primed for success. If Lebron goes west and the Celts are relatively injury free next year, I think 65 wins is realistic next season.What a boring off-season, in comparison to last year, it is going to be if there is zero turnover in the roster
I think Danny is going to quietly have eyes on Kawhi all summer until he’s actually dealt.Just shows you how smart Danny is. Re-up Smart and enjoy the rest of the summer. If someone wants to make an offer on Rozier or Morris...let's talk. This team is primed for success. If Lebron goes west and the Celts are relatively injury free next year, I think 65 wins is realistic next season.
I think a boring nba offseason is exactly what Celtics want.What a boring off-season, in comparison to last year, it is going to be if there is zero turnover in the roster
The off season is 12 hours old.What a boring off-season, in comparison to last year, it is going to be if there is zero turnover in the roster
81-1 or bust.Just shows you how smart Danny is. Re-up Smart and enjoy the rest of the summer. If someone wants to make an offer on Rozier or Morris...let's talk. This team is primed for success. If Lebron goes west and the Celts are relatively injury free next year, I think 65 wins is realistic next season.