I have no idea what this means, but I'm going with that it's goodZizic with a dime for Brown to Yam
I have no idea what this means, but I'm going with that it's good
He has looked a lot better tonight than in any game prior.Whoa, nice drive by Zizic!
Easily his best game so far. Also like how he rolls on the pick and roll, though hasn't gotten the pass so much on those.Whoa, nice drive by Zizic!
I've said this before and will continue saying this. Comparing Jason Kidd to Lonzo Ball is like comparing Allen Iverson to Yogi Ferrell because they are both under 6'.Also Jason Kidd. I mean, it all depends on how strong his strengths are and how weak his weaknesses are. Which is saying absolutely nothing interesting. His passing numbers in college though are all-time great prospect status, though.
This is maybe implicit in the observation about Kidd's athleticism and D and rebounding but he was also strong as a bull. Whenever the C's went up against his Nets teams it was just a helpless feeling knowing he was going to do whatever he wanted out there, even without a great shot. Speaking of the '02 series, just laughed out loud checking the box scores and seeing that the C's rolled in game 2 despite Pierce and Walker combining to shoot 14-52 from the floor and 13-23 from the line (at 3-20 and 11-20, that must have been PP's worst shooting game ever).I've said this before and will continue saying this. Comparing Jason Kidd to Lonzo Ball is like comparing Allen Iverson to Yogi Ferrell because they are both under 6'.
From the time he was in high school until he was something like 35, Jason Kidd was always - and I mean always - the best athlete on the court. While Kidd's shot was flunky, he could do everything else. Not only was he the best passer, he was an incredible defender and the best rebounder from the guard position.
That's not Lonzo Ball.
Totally agree. But my specific point was not comparing them, simply that the previous comment was a bit off. In particular, just because a PG can't break people down off the dribble and play plus defense doesn't mean they are destined for being an average backup.I've said this before and will continue saying this. Comparing Jason Kidd to Lonzo Ball is like comparing Allen Iverson to Yogi Ferrell because they are both under 6'.
From the time he was in high school until he was something like 35, Jason Kidd was always - and I mean always - the best athlete on the court. While Kidd's shot was flunky, he could do everything else. Not only was he the best passer, he was an incredible defender and the best rebounder from the guard position.
That's not Lonzo Ball.
BTW, check out the video below (compilation of Semi's defensive sequences) and tell me if you still think Ojeleye doesn't have any lateral quickness. The second defensive sequence where he guarded three different players - after switching twice - and then contesting the shot shows outstanding lateral movement for a man his size.He looks a lot more athletic than he is. He has no lateral movement. He's a Binky.
Glad you're seeing that.He's looked much better the last 2 games. Zizic too.
I'll eat crow too: I was very impressed watching him last night. He was covering guys much larger than him, including Swanigan and Collins, and refused to be backed down and performed credibly on the boards. He obviously moves his his feet really well: there was a possession against Gutierrez and one against Layman where he basically forced a turnover by staying in front of him. I thought his hands looked pretty good, too: there were a couple of deflections, if I remember correctly.BTW, check out the video below (compilation of Semi's defensive sequences) and tell me if you still think Ojeleye doesn't have any lateral quickness. The second defensive sequence where he guarded three different players - after switching twice - and then contesting the shot shows outstanding lateral movement for a man his size.
Plus, I can't think of a time that he's really been blown by on defense.
I wonder if his low steal rate is a result of him guarding bigs/non ball handlers in college. I'm not sure just speculating.I'll eat crow too: I was very impressed watching him last night. He was covering guys much larger than him, including Swanigan and Collins, and refused to be backed down and performed credibly on the boards. He obviously moves his his feet really well: there was a possession against Gutierrez and one against Layman where he basically forced a turnover by staying in front of him. I thought his hands looked pretty good, too: there were a couple of deflections, if I remember correctly.
After watching him more closely I've become skeptical of his steal rate from college (perhaps just irrational Summer league exuberance ) and really wish there were hustle stats available from college so I could see how many deflections he turns up. I know they're counting them for summer league because they're running an article on it every day (De'Aaron Fox is a daily mention) but they're not publishing the stats.
Excited by Jaylen making 3 pointers above the break, too.
Already ducking Fox...Lonzo apparently injured and won't play against Fox and the Kings.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19956044/lonzo-ball-los-angeles-lakers-miss-matchup-vs-deaaron-fox-sacramento-kings-groin-injury
That's interesting and plausible. I know SMU ran a lot of zone, too -- maybe that was a factor too? I also don't know how long it takes for steal % to stabilize. I've spent some time looking and couldn't turn anything up.I wonder if his low steal rate is a result of him guarding bigs/non ball handlers in college. I'm not sure just speculating.
This kid can be a small ball 5. Zubac couldn't move him an inch. He could switch any PnR in that role too. A Smart Hayward jaylen crowder semi lineup gives me more than a semi amirite? Bulldog city.
If he was injured last week, why run him out there at all?Lonzo apparently injured and won't play against Fox and the Kings.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19956044/lonzo-ball-los-angeles-lakers-miss-matchup-vs-deaaron-fox-sacramento-kings-groin-injury
Riiiiiiight.Lonzo apparently injured and won't play against Fox and the Kings.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19956044/lonzo-ball-los-angeles-lakers-miss-matchup-vs-deaaron-fox-sacramento-kings-groin-injury
Ahaha this was my exact instant reaction. Guessing this is why his shot has been terrible too....Already ducking Fox...
Judging Zizic off his first few games in days immediately following him relocating to a new country, new league, and new teammates as a 20-year old always seemed foolhardy to me. He didn't remotely appear to be the same player we've seen this winter and for good reason. Zizic will be fine in time.Zizic looks better. Good interior defense and rebounding. Maybe the Baynes signing woke him up.
It's mostly unfair anyway because the kid was hyped to death and had unrealistic expectations put on him. He's been touted as a mid lottery talent in the 2016 draft many times over and people were pegging him in for 20-25 minutes a night. If you look at him as a mid 20 something pick, he looks pretty promising.Judging Zizic off his first few games in days immediately following him relocating to a new country, new league, and new teammates as a 20-year old always seemed foolhardy to me. He didn't remotely appear to be the same player we've seen this winter and for good reason. Zizic will be fine in time.
Hell, he outplayed the 10th pick last night.It's mostly unfair anyway because the kid was hyped to death and had unrealistic expectations put on him. He's been touted as a mid lottery talent in the 2016 draft many times over and people were pegging him in for 20-25 minutes a night. If you look at him as a mid 20 something pick, he looks pretty promising.
What he provided last night is what this team has been missing for awhile. He's a guy who will be active on the glass and most of his offensive game will be put backs and dunks. It'll be nice to have the option to sacrifice some spacing for rebounding if we are getting killed on the boards. I'm willing to chalk the bad start up to conditioning and learning the difference between team play and hero ball.Hell, he outplayed the 10th pick last night.
Worst line of the summer for Markkanen? 1-13FG, 0-10 3FG.Hell, he outplayed the 10th pick last night.
Markkanen was great in the first game looking like an NBA starter in short time........then this game happened lol.Worst line of the summer for Markkanen? 1-13FG, 0-10 3FG.
So, he's like an Ante-Zizic...?Markkanen was great in the first game looking like an NBA starter in short time........then this game happened lol.
He should beSo he's afraid of Fox? Have fun every night in the West playing Curry/Paul/Westbrook/Conley/Lillard/Bledsoe!
I'm sure this is 100% the Lakers decision and not Ball ducking a matchup with Fox. Just like stuff with his Dad we must recognize what Lonzo Ball the person is doing and not lumping others (Dad and the Lakers) decisions into Lonzo's. He seems like a pretty down to earth and likeable kid.So he's afraid of Fox? Have fun every night in the West playing Curry/Paul/Westbrook/Conley/Lillard/Bledsoe!
Quoted, because I truly do not know if I should be celebrating this or throwing a tomato at it, but I firmly believe either way that it should be acknowledged.So, he's like an Ante-Zizic...?
Definitely celebrating. I hoping for him to have a monster game so we can see some 'AnteClimax!' headlines...Quoted, because I truly do not know if I should be celebrating this or throwing a tomato at it, but I firmly believe either way that it should be acknowledged.