Celtics vs. Warriors, NBA Finals

Who you got?

  • Celtics in 4

    Votes: 6 1.5%
  • Celtics in 5

    Votes: 18 4.6%
  • Celtics in 6

    Votes: 146 37.2%
  • Celtics in 7

    Votes: 127 32.4%
  • Warriors in 4

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Warriors in 5

    Votes: 23 5.9%
  • Warriors in 6

    Votes: 56 14.3%
  • Warriors in 7

    Votes: 15 3.8%

  • Total voters
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RG33

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Truth be told, I bought game 1 and 2 tickets on Thursday. Had a large wager on the Celts to win the ECF and was very confident going into game 6. My blood pressure was ridiculous tonight — 99% was about wanting this team, that deserved it, to advance. I’m beyond happy now though.

Celtics in 5.
 

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This series reminds me of 2004 Pistons/Lakers, and we’ll see if the outcome is the same. The Lakers were back in the Finals after a year off and looking to continue their dynasty, tons of experience, Hall of Fame players/coach, homecourt. Detroit was the defense first team, no Finals experience, from the “weaker” Eastern Conference.
Let’s hope. That Detroit team was something else. GS just has so much shot making and is so deep it’s going to challenge the beat-up Celts. That said they’ve been their best when up against it. I actually prefer them as the ‘dogs in this matchup. Takes the pressure off Tatum and Brown.
 

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Maybe it’s worth just keeping Time Lord out until game 2 or 3? I feel like 4 games of potentially 90% TL is better than 6 games of whatever we’ve been watching.
If TL is going to be what he looks like tonight he may be finished. Even if he is able to play in this series he’s going to need those Jimmy Butler knee vitamins to get through it. I also wouldn’t be surprised if he had surgery this summer and missed most of, if not all of, next year.
 

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I know already weighed in on some matchup stuff, but if I’m allowed to step back for a moment: how freaking great is it that these two classic franchises are in the Finals together for the first time since ‘64? Throw in the fact that they’re both likable teams full of unique, home-grown stars, the contrast of styles, and the historical ramifications (Cs new dynasty notches #18 or Curry & the Warriors OG tie LeBron with four titles), and this has all the makings of an all-time classic.

Warriors/Dallas in a relatively undramatic Game 5 killed it in the ratings; the league has to be licking their chops over this one. Just hope everyone gets and stays healthy.
 

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You can give TL a full week off if you sit him game 1. Depending on how he progresses early this week, it seems like an option.
 

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I know already weighed in on some matchup stuff, but if I’m allowed to step back for a moment: how freaking great is it that these two classic franchises are in the Finals together for the first time since ‘64? Throw in the fact that they’re both likable teams full of unique, home-grown stars, the contrast of styles, and the historical ramifications (Cs new dynasty notches #18 or Curry & the Warriors OG tie LeBron with four titles), and this has all the makings of an all-time classic.

Warriors/Dallas in a relatively undramatic Game 5 killed it in the ratings; the league has to be licking their chops over this one. Just hope everyone gets and stays healthy.
I think maybe Butler steals one game for Miami but otherwise that series would have been a one-sided snooze.

We took the scenic route but got where everyone knows it should’ve ended up.
 

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If TL is going to be what he looks like tonight he may be finished. Even if he is able to play in this series he’s going to need those Jimmy Butler knee vitamins to get through it. I also wouldn’t be surprised if he had surgery this summer and missed most of, if not all of, next year.
Or maybe he’ll get hit by a bus on the way to getting a knee replacement at MGH.

Listen, I get it. Rob is hurt. He looked crummy tonight. He’s been maybe 65% of the guy we had most of this year. But he also looked pretty spry a few games ago. He won’t be 100% for the Finals but will have some time off and, yes, maybe they rest him game 1 and roll with Grant and Theis. But let’s not send him out to the glue factory just yet.
 

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Jaylen and Jayson need to punish Poole. Run him off the court. Kerr will need to counter with Kuminga but he's pretty raw.

Be physical with Curry, try to put the ball in Draymond's hands as much as possible, and get as many points as you can off turnovers. The Warriors turn the ball over a lot.
 

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Thankfully the Warriors don’t have anyone like Adebayo or Giannis to bully Theis. He was fine in the Nets series and I suspect he’ll be playable in this series if need be.
 

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Takes me back to the 80s Lakers Celtics. The Celtic survive two physical wars out east while the West champion has a much easier path.

Very tough test for the Celtics.
Had exactly the same take on the parallels of the finesse of the west versus the physical play of the 80s East and the toll it took on the Celts, particularly in '87.
 

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I suspect whatever is ailing Timelord is not going to get better with 3 days of rest. Guy looks truly hobbled.
This isn’t him being bruised up though. He has a chronic issue with his knee and was kneeling over in distress last game after a couple blocked shot attempts. I’m concerned about him this series but also long term as well.
 

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Got accused of "Pre-emptively making excuses" by a Warrior fan on social media. Who also claimed that missing Porter, Payton and Iguodala is comparable to playing with starters banged up. Weird ambivalence by which Steph is this super likeable dude, but the fanbase... it's like the opposite of the Heat who have Kyle Lowry and no fans.

Honestly think Warriors in 7, but this will be fun.
 

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I'm just so fucking relieved that we're here. A loss tonight (last night?) would've prompted questions I, and the franchise, weren't in a position to answer. I can't help but see that Butler three hitting front rim and bouncing straight in...but it didn't. Thank fuck.

I truly am in the house money camp. Getting to the Finals was immense. Truly beyond measure in my eyes.

Now, we're here, though. While I might not know what to do with myself, I think the team does.

Might as well win it.
 

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The Warriors are really good and so experienced.
One storyline, big in Canada, is Wiggins redeeming himself with a championship. He is obviously better in the third wheel role than being the man.
 

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The Warriors are really good and so experienced.
One storyline, big in Canada, is Wiggins redeeming himself with a championship. He is obviously better in the third wheel role than being the man.
Wiggins has been so good both this year and in the playoffs. Perfect example about how a culture can destroy a young player early in his career. He finally showed the elite defensively potential he had coming out of college. He made life miserable for Luka in those final games.
 

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This series reminds me of 2004 Pistons/Lakers, and we’ll see if the outcome is the same. The Lakers were back in the Finals after a year off and looking to continue their dynasty, tons of experience, Hall of Fame players/coach, homecourt. Detroit was the defense first team, no Finals experience, from the “weaker” Eastern Conference.
The other historical comp that occurred to me is 90s Lakers-Bulls. Beloved "public" franchise with aging-but-still-great superstars (Lakers) against upstart team with lockdown D and athletic wings, thought by many to be a year or two away. Let's hope so!

(3) their defense is good, but not what it once was. Klay in particular is not the guy he used to be on D;
Several posters have hit on this subsequently, but this seems to be the key: the C's must exploit the backcourt size and athleticism of Brown and Smart (assuming ok health) against Curry, Thompson, Poole. They aren't going to be able to get enough points from the front court with Wiggins and Green picking up Tatum and Horford.

Edit: Kevin O'Connor dissects this point in his series preview:

But the Celtics’ other go-to is Tatum screening for Smart, or vice versa. And against a Warriors team that mostly used Curry to guard Smart in their regular-season meetings, that option could prove more appealing. Curry is used to being targeted much more often in the playoffs than the regular season, and he should expect more of the same in this series.

He might be game enough to stop the Celtics’ pet plays. Out of 36 players who have guarded the screener on at least 100 plays this postseason, Curry ranks 18th in points allowed (0.97 points per possession), per Second Spectrum. That isn’t bad—and certainly better than Jordan Poole (1.37), who ranks last among the group.

But it’s also nowhere near the figures for Kevon Looney (0.81) or Green (0.86), who both rank in the top five. Boston will need to pick on the Warriors’ guards because it won’t get anywhere by going after their bigs.
 
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FWIW, 538 gives the Celtics an 83% chance to win the title.
538 is broken when it comes to the Warriors. It has been all season. I generally find their basketball projections to have a reasonable amount of utility, but they should basically be ignored here because their system cannot get this Warriors team right. There’s a variety of reasons for that. They inexplicably insist on allocating playing time to Wiseman, for example. They also are still discounting all of the big three based on their subpar performances or injuries last year. From a system design standpoint, that makes a lot of sense. In terms of evaluating who we know this Warriors team to be, it’s a massive flaw.

I’ve had the Warriors as the most dangerous team in the league pretty much all season. They are a tough and tested team with a ton of experience. They are also the only team in the league where I’m not 100% confident that, their best against the Celtics, this Celtics team is better.

At the same time, we match up well. We have so much more size than they do and can field that size without sacrificing the ability to stay with their shooters. On the other side, Tatum should have an easier time of things. The Warriors are a really good defense, but they don’t have the same ability to pressure the point of attack that Miami has, and Tatum should be able to hunt the Warriors’ guards.

One thing to keep an eye on is how quickly Ime adjusts to the fact that White will need to get 30+ mpg this series. He will be critical to us defending effectively against Steph, Klay, and Poole. In a similar vein, I think Grant Williams is likely to see his role diminished this series for matchup reasons. Ime has tended to be reluctant to vary his rotations too much based on matchups, so I have some concern that adjustment might be slower than I’d hope to see.
 

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At the same time, we match up well. We have so much more size than they do and can field that size without sacrificing the ability to stay with their shooters. On the other side, Tatum should have an easier time of things. The Warriors are a really good defense, but they don’t have the same ability to pressure the point of attack that Miami has, and Tatum should be able to hunt the Warriors’ guards.

One thing to keep an eye on is how quickly Ime adjusts to the fact that White will need to get 30+ mpg this series. He will be critical to us defending effectively against Steph, Klay, and Poole. In a similar vein, I think Grant Williams is likely to see his role diminished this series for matchup reasons. Ime has tended to be reluctant to vary his rotations too much based on matchups, so I have some concern that adjustment might be slower than I’d hope to see.
It's going to feel weird for Tatum, after Mil and Miami, to not be constantly harrassed at the point of attack.

Wrt White vs Grant: if TL isn't playing much, they're going to need to play both of them heavy minutes regardless, because they're both better options in this series than Theis. PP is also (hopefully) more playable here, so they may just try and go 7 deep, with Theis in very limited spot minutes. 7 deep is pretty doable when it's the Finals and a lot of the games have 2 days off, and maybe TL can play more than I think.
 

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Is Pritchard playable in this series? He can't cover Curry, but who can?
 

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If TL is going to be what he looks like tonight he may be finished. Even if he is able to play in this series he’s going to need those Jimmy Butler knee vitamins to get through it. I also wouldn’t be surprised if he had surgery this summer and missed most of, if not all of, next year.
He came back in the bare minimum amount of time from his original meniscus injury. The likely outcome is a procedure sometime this summer that has him back by January at the latest. A few days off could help.
 

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The Cs are wearing down due to injuries. Marcus/TL aren't right yet. I wouldn't be opposed to sitting TL Game1 if it helps him heal for a week? BOS hasn't been very good in the three Game 1s anyways. Try to steal one.

The C's still have trouble in late/tight/closing. Wish there was some way IME could go situational with the offense/defense. GSW will bait Marcus into shooting knowing he'll gladly launch. Feels like the 2003 Sox, not quite there yet. I'll pick Boston in 7 but the least confident I've been yet. Win or lose, fantastic season heading towards future greatness.

Not that it matters, but the Celtics become a LTP with a Championship

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267163/Celtics-Will-Become-Luxury-Tax-Payors-If-They-Win-Finals
 

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He came back in the bare minimum amount of time from his original meniscus injury. The likely outcome is a procedure sometime this summer that has him back by January at the latest. A few days off could help.
There’s a huge range of meniscus injuries. This is all really hard to speculate about. That said, TL taking the time to get it right over the summer and only playing 40 games next year before what is hopefully another long playoff run, seems not a horrible outcome.
 

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Feels like Rob is one more MRI from an "out for the playoffs" diagnosis. He couldn't move out there and looked much worse the earlier in the series. Not exactly fitting with a healing bone bruise, seems more likely meniscus/cartilage related to me, hope I'm wrong.

I think fully healthy, neural court, same rest... Celtics are the better team.

But obviously that's not the case and going down 2-0 would be a tough hole. Need to win one of these first two games in GS.
Are we sure it isn’t just a normal swelling issue after increased load post surgery? Williams was a menace in Game 5, played well and was moving up and down the court in Game 6 (and was slated to come back in late until Al made his 3), and didn’t appear to re-injure it at any point in those 2 games. The fact he was basically 100% in Game 5 is what throws me here.
 

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Are we sure it isn’t just a normal swelling issue after increased load post surgery? Williams was a menace in Game 5, played well and was moving up and down the court in Game 6 (and was slated to come back in late until Al made his 3), and didn’t appear to re-injure it at any point in those 2 games. The fact he was basically 100% in Game 5 is what throws me here.
Right. To this point, can't it just be something where we get, say, 2-3 100% games from him and then some compromised games and DNPs? People seems to be treating it like this binary thing, where he's either done or will be fine with 5-7 days rest.
 

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The C's still have trouble in late/tight/closing. Wish there was some way IME could go situational with the offense/defense. GSW will bait Marcus into shooting knowing he'll gladly launch. Feels like the 2003 Sox, not quite there yet. I'll pick Boston in 7 but the least confident I've been yet. Win or lose, fantastic season heading towards future greatness.
I don't know what the answer is but from what I see, the Cs are really inefficient in the 4Q when they start their offense late in the shot clock. (I'd love to see any efficiency stats with regards to this.)

I don't know what the answer is in that every player on every team is taught to let the shot clock run down if their team is up late in the 4Q but it doesn't seem to work well for BOS.
Are we sure it isn’t just a normal swelling issue after increased load post surgery? Williams was a menace in Game 5, played well and was moving up and down the court in Game 6 (and was slated to come back in late until Al made his 3), and didn’t appear to re-injure it at any point in those 2 games. The fact he was basically 100% in Game 5 is what throws me here.
TL looked like he might have aggravated something in G6 - after one sequence, he had his hands on his knees.

Ime says it's just swelling he'll be okay. I can't imagine that BOS would let him play if he could do more damage to the knee but we'll see.

View: https://twitter.com/RealAlexBarth/status/1531124270067335169?cxt=HHwWgoC-hara0r8qAAAA
 

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Apologies for not starting this thread last night.

Full perform. Full teech. FULL RONDOS.

Scrub the Dubs and put a towel in the roof.

LFG.
 

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FWIW, 538 gives the Celtics an 83% chance to win the title.
This feels wildly optimistic. 83% is their Raptor forecast, BTW. Their Elo forecast has it closer: 68% to 32%, which also feels wildly optimistic.

This feels like an even series or edge to Warriors to me, in part because of the toll the previous 2 rounds exacted on the Celtics.

What, if anything, can we get from TL in this series? Do we get games like Miami 1, 2, 4,5, and 6, where he gave them 24 minutes, averaging 10.6/6.6 along with 2.4 blocks? Or do we get games like last night, where he played 14 minutes, scoring 2 points and adding 3 rebounds?

They need an at least semi-effective TL to be their best offensive and defensive selves. Will they have one? At least for some games? Unclear.
 

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Is Kevon Looney confirmed good now? I swear every time I’ve seen him this year pre-playoffs I thought he was awful. Lineups with Looney + Dray together sounds on paper like a gift for an elite defense but again my paradigm could be wrong.
 
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Apologies for not starting this thread last night.

Full perform. Full teech. FULL RONDOS.

Scrub the Dubs and put a towel in the roof.

LFG.
How's about starting one with a poll, focused on predictions?
 

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The Warriors' defense is better than Miami's (#2 v #4 in the season)
I'm actually kind of shocked by this ranking. From my casual observation of the Western Conf. playoff, it's like a night and day brand compared to the East. High-paced, tons of ball movement, and not much in the way of defense.

I think the Warriors will be in for a bit of a shock when it comes to the C's defense and size. Conversely, I think it'll be a breath of fresh air for the banged-up C's to be facing a much less physical opponent. Should be a fun one. Rest up, Celtics and Celtic fans.
 

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One of the things that the Heat and Bucks did well against the Celtics is crash the offensive glass. The Warriors are not built to exploit that against Boston and the size mismatch will limit them to a lot of one-and-dones in the half court sets. The other thing is that Golden State is a very foul heavy team that allows opponents to get to the line at a pretty high rate. I think the Celtics may very well be a terrible matchup for them in a bunch of ways.

Celtics in 6. Split in CA and finish them on the parquet.
 

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One of the things that the Heat and Bucks did well against the Celtics is crash the offensive glass. The Warriors are not built to exploit that against Boston and the size mismatch will limit them to a lot of one-and-dones in the half court sets. The other thing is that Golden State is a very foul heavy team that allows opponents to get to the line at a pretty high rate. I think the Celtics may very well be a terrible matchup for them in a bunch of ways.

Celtics in 6. Split in CA and finish them on the parquet.
The Warriors are a surprisingly good offensive rebounding team despite being small. A lot of this is because all the switching defenses have to do to keep up with Curry and Thompson leaves guards trying to box out the Warriors bigs like Looney. Or when defenses trap the Curry PNR, which happens a lot, the rest of the defense has to zone up and that's bad defensive rebounding.

I'm actually kind of shocked by this ranking. From my casual observation of the Western Conf. playoff, it's like a night and day brand compared to the East. High-paced, tons of ball movement, and not much in the way of defense.

I think the Warriors will be in for a bit of a shock when it comes to the C's defense and size. Conversely, I think it'll be a breath of fresh air for the banged-up C's to be facing a much less physical opponent. Should be a fun one. Rest up, Celtics and Celtic fans.
I agree that the Celts' length and athletes on defense will bother the Warriors a lot. From the Warriors perspective, this will be much more like the Memphis series than the Dallas series.

Bu the flip side is that the Celtics haven't faced anything like the Warriors' offense and it requires a totally different game plan and mindset than anything they've had to do so far. Not just that it's good, but all the off-ball movement is a completely different animal. The Celtics are as well-equipped as anyone to deal with it, but it requires significant adjustments.
 

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The Warriors are a strange, underrated team. They were the best team in basketball by defensive rating, and 17th in offensive rating, which is probably surprising to some people. The defense has probably gotten better during the playoffs, thanks to the resurgence of Looney. They do have some weaknesses on that end, especially at the guard positions; with Poole being a guy that Kerr has to be careful with because they kind of need his scoring, but he's a liability on defense and can be exploited in mismatches.

Curry has been very good (both in the regular season and the playoffs) but not his typical supernova self. The Warriors team is balanced; guys like Klay, Poole and Wiggins contribute 15-25 points a game each; and help carry GS to victory. That will be unlike the last few rounds for the Celtics, who have been met by incredible individual play by Butler/Giannis, but been salvaged by nobody else being capable of scoring. The other major difference is that the other teams were very physical on offense, with big wings crushing it in the paint, while the Warriors are more of a finesse scoring team.

The worry for the Celtics is of course health, and guys just wearing down. They need Brown/Tatum to abuse the few weaknesses in Golden State's defense, and then rely on their steady, inflexible team defense to stifle Golden State. The hope for the Celtics is that their physicality and battle-tested rigor will surprise Golden State early in the series and lead to them gaining some footing and stealing home court. Of course, GS's core is still as experienced as it comes in the Finals, so I doubt they will be that shell-shocked.
 

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Also while the Warriors are not as physical as Miami or Milwaukee, playing them is draining in different ways. Chasing Curry and Thompson around all game off the ball tests the defenders' endurance, and no team is more mentally demanding to play against. Defenders have to be constantly aware and communicating and the Warriors will punish every mental mistake.
 

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Are we sure it isn’t just a normal swelling issue after increased load post surgery? Williams was a menace in Game 5, played well and was moving up and down the court in Game 6 (and was slated to come back in late until Al made his 3), and didn’t appear to re-injure it at any point in those 2 games. The fact he was basically 100% in Game 5 is what throws me here.
I’m not sure of anything, buts it’s been 2 months since his surgery to remove a portion of his meniscus.

There’s no obvious expected post surgical reason he should be worsening, in a lot of pain, and have this little mobility right now. The mild “unrelated bone bruise” against the Bucks would typically not be improving then suddenly get much worse as well.

Obviously I’m just guessing, but it’s certainly concerning. If he gets another MRI, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has another meniscus tear or new cartilage loss near the surgery site.

Partial meniscectomies are entirely dependent on how much meniscus needs to be taken out and where it’s taken out from. They’re aren’t all alike. It has the potential to change the biomechanics of the knee and when you change your native shock absorption, the joint is at higher risk for cartilage damage. That’s the most common thing I see 2 months out from these surgeries with recurrent pain and swelling.
 

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Also while the Warriors are not as physical as Miami or Milwaukee, playing them is draining in different ways. Chasing Curry and Thompson around all game off the ball tests the defenders' endurance, and no team is more mentally demanding to play against. Defenders have to be constantly aware and communicating and the Warriors will punish every mental mistake.
I mentioned this in the gambling thread about how G1’s for us have been a massive adjustment from one series to the next. We went from the Bucks drop coverage for 7 games to the Heat jumping screens and trapping all within 48 hours.

We will face a similar challenge when we go from 7 games of Butler probing to get to the rim with a backcourt of 2022 Lowry, Strus and Gabe Vincent to Curry, Klay, Poole with the pace of their motion offense. G1 could be ugly much like the Miami one was but we can still recapture home court by adjusting for G2.
 

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I’m not sure of anything, buts it’s been 2 months since his surgery to remove a portion of his meniscus.

There’s no obvious expected post surgical reason he should be worsening, in a lot of pain, and have this little mobility right now. The mild “unrelated bone bruise” against the Bucks would typically not be improving then suddenly get much worse as well.

Obviously I’m just guessing, but it’s certainly concerning. If he gets another MRI, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has another meniscus tear or new cartilage loss near the surgery site.

Partial meniscectomies are entirely dependent on how much meniscus needs to be taken out and where it’s taken out from. They’re aren’t all alike. It has the potential to change the biomechanics of the knee and when you change your native shock absorption, the joint is at higher risk for cartilage damage. That’s the most common thing I see 2 months out from these surgeries with recurrent pain and swelling.
Has it been confirmed which knee is bothering him most now? I am pretty sure it’s the knee where he had surgery but I haven’t seen it completely confirmed
 

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The Warriors are a surprisingly good offensive rebounding team despite being small. A lot of this is because all the switching defenses have to do to keep up with Curry and Thompson leaves guards trying to box out the Warriors bigs like Looney. Or when defenses trap the Curry PNR, which happens a lot, the rest of the defense has to zone up and that's bad defensive rebounding.
I don't quite get the "Warriors are small" take. Looney/Green/Wiggins/Thompson/Curry is very similar height wise to the Cs starters, and they certainly play bigger than some of the Heat lineups we saw.
 

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But the flip side is that the Celtics haven't faced anything like the Warriors' offense and it requires a totally different game plan and mindset than anything they've had to do so far. Not just that it's good, but all the off-ball movement is a completely different animal. The Celtics are as well-equipped as anyone to deal with it, but it requires significant adjustments.
I heard someone say on some podcast I was listening to that while GSW stresses most defenses with its ball and player movement, BOS is pretty uniquely equipped to guard since they switch everything. The real question is how the Cs bigs are going to hold up guarding GSW's perimeter players.

I’m not sure of anything, buts it’s been 2 months since his surgery to remove a portion of his meniscus.

There’s no obvious expected post surgical reason he should be worsening, in a lot of pain, and have this little mobility right now. The mild “unrelated bone bruise” against the Bucks would typically not be improving then suddenly get much worse as well.

Obviously I’m just guessing, but it’s certainly concerning. If he gets another MRI, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has another meniscus tear or new cartilage loss near the surgery site.

Partial meniscectomies are entirely dependent on how much meniscus needs to be taken out and where it’s taken out from. They’re aren’t all alike. It has the potential to change the biomechanics of the knee and when you change your native shock absorption, the joint is at higher risk for cartilage damage. That’s the most common thing I see 2 months out from these surgeries with recurrent pain and swelling.
I'm not sure what is ailing TL but remember that he had a bone bruise after a collision with Giannis in G3 of that series and the swelling might be due to that.
 

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Maybe it’s worth just keeping Time Lord out until game 2 or 3? I feel like 4 games of potentially 90% TL is better than 6 games of whatever we’ve been watching.
I was thinking the same. Game 2 is Sunday. That would be an entire week of rest.