CFB 2023 Week 1: The Road to the Pop-Tarts Bowl begins

Was (Not Wasdin)

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Deion doesn’t even have to be that great of an x’s and o’s coach to have success there. If he can get top recruits there and fill his staff with good young coaches who will do the heavy lifting, he can just be Deion.
Have to wonder if this can become a viable model for the schools that can’t get a Saban/Smart/Dabo. The problem is that when a guy like that moves on, he takes his talent (players and coaches) with him-doesn’t exactly build a foundation.

I wonder what Deion’s end game is. If he’s successful at Colorado, he’ll be gone in 3 years. Is he looking for the SEC, or FSU, or the NFL?
 

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Deion doesn’t even have to be that great of an x’s and o’s coach to have success there. If he can get top recruits there and fill his staff with good young coaches who will do the heavy lifting, he can just be Deion.
Have to wonder if this can become a viable model for the schools that can’t get a Saban/Smart/Dabo. The problem is that when a guy like that moves on, he takes his talent (players and coaches) with him-doesn’t exactly build a foundation.

I wonder what Deion’s end game is. If he’s successful at Colorado, he’ll be gone in 3 years. Is he looking for the SEC, or FSU, or the NFL?
95% of the coaching on any football team is done by the assistants. The head coach’s role is to establish a culture and hire capable assistants. Deion has demonstrated he can do that. He won’t outrecruit his rivals at Colorado to the same degree he did at Jackson State — it’s just not possible at the P5 level. But he’ll be successful, and while his style will be markedly different, he’ll do it by doing the same things other successful big-time coaches do.
 

Was (Not Wasdin)

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95% of the coaching on any football team is done by the assistants. The head coach’s role is to establish a culture and hire capable assistants. Deion has demonstrated he can do that. He won’t outrecruit his rivals at Colorado to the same degree he did at Jackson State — it’s just not possible at the P5 level. But he’ll be successful, and while his style will be markedly different, he’ll do it by doing the same things other successful big-time coaches do.
That’s probably true in terms of the workload, but the difference between Deion and almost every other P5 HC is that those guys all were, at some point, the assistant coaches doing 95% of the work. Deion never was that guy.

I’m so frustrated with BC right now-if Hafley goes, who’s next? Could someone like JJ Watt or Luke Keuchly attract better coaches and players than the next likely hire (who is going to leave in 3-4 years anyway if he is successful). I have no idea if those guys have any interest in coaching I’m just using them as an example, name guys who haven’t been grinding as assistant coaches.
 

Ale Xander

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Good for Lubbock and Waco to have Arizona and Arizona State in the near future

wow
 

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Have to wonder if this can become a viable model for the schools that can’t get a Saban/Smart/Dabo. The problem is that when a guy like that moves on, he takes his talent (players and coaches) with him-doesn’t exactly build a foundation.

I wonder what Deion’s end game is. If he’s successful at Colorado, he’ll be gone in 3 years. Is he looking for the SEC, or FSU, or the NFL?
It’s a tough model to emulate because who else is Prime Time? Very few guys have the charisma AND the necessary celebrity status with teenagers.

And that approach wouldn’t work in the NFL. Sure he could attract a few free agents, but the salary cap and constant roster turnover would blunt his celebrity impact.

I suspect he’ll be at Colorado for a few years at least. If he has success that fan base will pay for whatever he wants.
 

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Don't see BC taking the celebrity route- don't think it fits the culture at that school and in the area in general.
 

Ale Xander

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Don't see BC taking the celebrity route- don't think it fits the culture at that school and in the area in general.
For sure
I also don’t view Kuechly as a celebrity.
JJ Watt would be different. Technically I should be opposed, but since his wife was a UNC Soccer star, idk how I would react.


but totally agree on the culture fit not being there if it’s Watt.

just get a great football mind and motivator please
 

luckiestman

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You should have sorta a home field situation. They should have had this in Mobile. This is a perfect locale if you were playing U of M. (Stadium and pregame sucks here)
I don’t like Orlando too much. Area by Amway and soccer that is built up is ok. This should have been home and home instead of this “neutral” stuff
 

Ale Xander

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I don’t like Orlando too much. Area by Amway and soccer that is built up is ok. This should have been home and home instead of this “neutral” stuff
Totally forgot last year wa in NO.

Yeah this fake neutral stuff is stupid. It's not even real neutral.
 

luckiestman

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Noles need to get their shit together. Wilson who is normally good killed two drives and we are lucky to have gotten two stops on 4th.