Hah! Well, they *sometimes* do, but it's just a fortunate consequence, not by design.
Pedro proved a lot of people wrong for a while, but his last great season was age 33, his first year with the Mets. Every player is different but it's hard not to surmise he would have lasted longer with a different body type.
This is the only sensible approach to this. He's been broken for years and it's likely he'll break again. Build a team without him and if he's able to pitch then figure it out then. You can't count on him for anything.
While this is all good and nice.... that $30M still has to be factored in. I don't know what the budget is.... I don't give a flying F about Henry's wallet... .I know that there WILL be a budget and that Chris Sale has to be considered in that budget. If he's "not considered" in here, then the hypothetical budget (whatever it is) has to somehow be imagined at $30M less than what it actually is when we all discuss the roster. Bitch all we want about Henry spending (or not)... there's an actual number he'll set and it's likely pliable, but not much when it'll come to penalties for the future and tax implications. Just saying that he shouldn't factor doesn't mean they should run out and sign Rodon. He could be another $25M waste (I guess we could all say that it was bad planning since he's rarely healthy through a full season) and that Bloom should have figured that Rodon would only pitch 100 innings and should also have signed another $20M AAV pitcher as insurance.
Me too, lolSale will be 34 next season, for what it's worth. But I like to believe his age 31 and 33 seasons are still in his arm, unused and ready.
Unlikely that they will release him outright unless he's blocking someone, which seems a tad unlikely given the current state of the pitching corps(e). Someone has to eat the last few innings of a blow out, might as well make the busted guy earn at least a bit of his salary.
Slipping on snow would be a hell of a trick for a guy who is unlikely to set foot anywhere where there might be snow this winter.
Why would they do that? Unless he had an injury that would carry over into 2024 they gain almost nothing by releasing him.
If I would bet on anyone to break a hip on an ice patch in Boca, it would be Chris Sale.
I suppose a clue could be found in seeing how many 34yr olds 2 yrs removed from TJS were able to do so.
Two years ago, no one made 25 starts. Of course, he wasn't going to make any starts that season regardless because of the Tommy John surgery. Last season (2021) he made about as many starts as you'd expect a guy returning from TJS to make. This season, he suffered three fluke injuries, one of which I doubt would have happened without the second. He's probably not on the bicycle to break his wrist if he wasn't already on the IL with that fluky as fuck broken finger. None of those injuries are predictive of anything. Provided he's recovered fully from them, he should be good to go for 2023.
I'm not sure that there actually is any paperwork to not opt out so I think that we escaped that one.
What was his velocity this summer? They would probably try to find him a bullpen spot. I think we can look out over the horizon and not wonder if the Sox will have filled all their bullpen spots. We are a long way from the Astros.
Three years ago, not two. And William of Occam is spinning in his grave fast enough right now to light up London.
Generally agree with you on all this, buuuuut…. Pivetta has proven himself to be a horse at this point. Bello is too green to project for a full workload of more than 160 innings (he could get there and it’d be awesome if he does), Whitlock has too many injuries and no long starting track record to project. Pivetta is the only guy on the staff that you can comfortably project to not hit the IL for any significant time next season
What if Sale sucks so bad over the next two years, he nets us two #1 picks? Didn’t think about THAT, did ya?
Pivetta made 33 starts this season and 31 last. Sale made a total of 14 starts over the past three seasons after making 25 in 2019.
And if he wins his third World Series title, for a third team, in a few days? This one bad contract, over a 30+ year career, in a business where the nature of it is to have hits and misses, invalidates everything else? It’s a terrible contract that we’re now stuck with until the end of its term, but it defining his entire career seems over the top.
I wouldn’t worry about this part, Luis Severino only threw 18 innings from 2019-21 but came back and was very good this year. He only threw 102 innings (plus 11 in the postseason) but that’s mostly because NY kept his innings down after the three years of inactivity. Severino is younger but I don’t think that matters.
