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I thought the match ups this year were strange. Seemed like they didn't spread the teams from conferences out very much. I would say that QU is unpredictable. I can't imagine Yale winning another game. They really didn't look that great but I do like their jerseys with the big Y. 
 

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I wouldn't be so sure about Yale. This is the most wildly inconsistent Yale team I've ever seen. They can play with any team in the country, but they can also give up 5 goals on any given night. Malcolm is very inconsistent, and this has been by far the best year of his career. The defense is talented but young. Some of the forwards, particularly our first line, are great skaters and generate a ton of shots, but they can get into funks where they disappear. The team doesn't have nearly the firepower that our great team of two years ago did.

Yale went 4-0 against the WHCA this year, including three victories over tournament teams. Back in early January they tied and should have beaten BC, when BC was the number one team in the nation and hadn't failed to win at home in something like 20 games. In contrast, five days earlier, they lost to Holy Cross. They've gotten their asses kicked every time they've played Quinnipiac. They got humiliated last weekend in Atlantic City and followed that up with the greatest weekend in the program's history.

Which team shows up in Pittsburgh? Damned if i know.
 

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They're probably still in shock. Nothing whatsoever against the four regional winners -- they earned their berths with solid and at times dominant hockey. But from an attendance, name recognition and TV ratings stance, I'm hard-pressed to come up with a Frozen Four that the NCAA would consider more of a marketing challenge than the quartet of QU, Yale, UM-Lowell and St. Cloud.
 
No BC, BU, Maine or UNH.
No Wisconsin, Minnesota, UM-Duluth or North Dakota.
No Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St or Notre Dame.
No Denver or Colorado College.
 
This will be a fascinating Frozen Four. Could you imagine if an equivalent quartet of teams made it to the NCAA basketball Final Four?
 

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biollante said:
I thought the match ups this year were strange. Seemed like they didn't spread the teams from conferences out very much.
 
I think they were very concerned about maximizing attendance and minimizing travel.  Most of the departures from the "ideal" bracket were necessary, but the way they were resolved was always about those concerns, and they also did a non-required swap that took a team (Union) out of a flight.
 

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Just wanted to revisit this post. Hockey in no way benefits from this arrangement. If anything, its importance in the ESPN portfolio has been significantly diminished ever since the Worldwide Leader lost NHL rights. If the NCAA were so effective in strong-arming ESPN to place its championships on stations reaching the most households, the NCAA would in fact dictate those terms. They would stipulate that the hockey playoffs be aired on ESPN2, which reaches the same number of households as ESPN.
 
But they don't. And that's why three of today's NCAAH games are on ESPNU (reaching only 75% of those with access to ESPN & ESPN2), while the other three games are relegated to online streaming via ESPN3. None of them are on ESPN2, which will instead air Sports Science, Competitive Cheerleading, and Dance Competitions from 12:30 pm to 5:30 pm, followed by a Roberto Clemente documentary (best suited for ESPN Classic) and Mexican League soccer. 
 
The NCAA has no control over this whatsoever, and they're not making ESPN televise anything. All of this is an ESPN power play. They wanted all NCAA programming under their umbrella regardless of its low appeal, not because they have any plans to truly market it, but rather to ensure their competitors don't get a chance to do so.
 
As for the NCAA "bending the WWL over", that's preposterous. Remember that when the NCAA and ESPN reached this latest deal, there were no other competitive outlets for the NCAA to bring their programming to. As I noted in my earlier post, FOX, NBC/Comcast and CBS were still getting their shit in order to either launch or re-brand certain station properties as all-sports. So if, as you state, the NCAA made any threats or leverage plays (which I doubt), they were hollow and empty. ESPN knew it, and so did the NCAA. It would have been the easiest bluff on the planet to call. "OK. Go ahead, take your programming elsewhere and see (a) the paltry number of eyeballs it stands to get, (b) how unappealing such limited exposure will be to sponsors, and (.c) how much less cash these other networks will pay for the privilege. Maybe the History Channel or MTV will be interested."
 
ESPN couldn't get away with that today, now that two of their competitors are up & running and with FOX on the verge of doing so. They're all hungry for content and unafraid of any bidding wars, evidenced by the $600 million FOX is paying the new Big East for non-football content. Those bidding wars simply didn't exist before because ESPN was smart enough, and ruthless enough, to force the NCAA into a longer-term commitment before any other competitor was ready to ante up and start airing content.
 
I think it's a matter of perspective how much college hockey benefits from the arrangement.  On the one hand, you're right that there are aspects of the ESPN production that could stand to be improved.  But on the other hand, we end up with everything on TV, either live or tape-delayed, and the tape-delayed ones are syndicated to allow interested markets to show them live.  I've been around long enough to remember when it wasn't on TV at all.
 
It's true that there wasn't a lot of competition for ESPN at the time that the deal was renewed, but I wonder if the NCAA still couldn't have found someone who would have wanted the women's basketball tournament for a decent price has ESPN not been willing to agree to the conditions that the NCAA wanted.
 
Ultimately, it's more or less a mutually beneficial relationship.  ESPN gets their women's basketball (and one or two other properties that, one presumes, work out OK for the network), the NCAA gets a whole bunch of championships that aren't worth televising on their own merits on national TV.
 

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Boston College's Johnny Gaudreau, Quinnipiac's Eric Hartzell and St. Cloud State's Drew LeBlanc are the three finalists for the 2013 Hobey Baker Award.

 
 

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2013 recruit Connor Clifton taken by Peterborough (OHL) is the 4th round of the priority draft. Played for USNDT team this year. Really hoping he won't go to major juniors though his brother Tim Clifton is coming to Hamden with him this fall and hoping that is enough to bypass major juniors in Canada. This is really important for Quinnipiac to avoid losing this recruit.
 

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Maine is going to announce at 4 that they are going to fire head coach Tim Whitehead.
 
 
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**BREAKING** NEWS CENTER has confirmed Tim Whitehead has been fired as coach of UM Hockey Team
 
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RT @DaveEidWGME: Coach Whitehead is expected to meet with his players at 2:00 with an official announcement coming at 4:00.
 
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Source: "Maine has had a list of 3 names they've been internally targeting since Feb. With Gwoz gone at Denver, it's likely 4 names now."
 

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Four key members of the Boston College hockey team will be returning
to Chestnut Hill next year, opting not to sign professional contracts
with the teams they have been drafted by. Johnny Gaudreau, Bill Arnold,
Michael Matheson, and Kevin Hayes will all be back next year to play
under head coach Jerry York, BC confirmed today.

Gaudreau, a Hobey Baker finalist, had been in talks with the Calgary
Flames about potentially signing his contract. A report from the Calgary Herald
last week said Flames general manager Jay Feaster had told the
sophomore forward that the decision was “solely Gaudreau’s.” But
Gaudreau cited his desire to get an education and possibly play with his
brother Matthew (a BC recruit) as reasons to return
 
http://www.bcheightssports.com/2013/04/09/gaudreau-matheson-and-rest-of-bc-hockey-underclassmen-will-stay-for-2013-14/
 
Safe to say BC should start the season very highly ranked.
 

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They still have a bunch of question marks, especially in goal and on defense as was evident during the abortion of the Union game.  I think their recruiting class is supposed to be extremely good this year (pretty sure I'm not confusing it with next year) so that's something as they really need to rebuild their depth outside of their top 6.
 

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Yale scores on a power play to take the lead against Lowell. Once again, I'm impressed by their ability to play up to the level of their competition so far.
 

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Second power play* goal gives Yale a 2-0 lead at the end of one.  Surprising how little UMass-Lowell has done with the puck.
 
* oops, goal happened just after PP ended
 

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Not at all - the third one was a blow to the head of the type that got Bryan O'Neill thrown out against UMD two years ago.  They were lucky it wasn't at least a 5 minute major.
 

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Puke, just like that, UMass scores twice in about 5 seconds to tie it up.  That's Jeff Malcolm for you.  Yale had been totally dominating too.
 
Same thing happened against Colgate, I think, about 2 months ago.  Yale managed to win that game 3-2, can they do it again?
 

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I haven't watched a full hockey game since the Whale left and I gotta say i miss it. Great sport to watch. Yale was looking like an NHL team against a high school team until those two quick goals.
 
Can't wait til UConn gets into the HE.
 
It would be something to see two CT teams in the finals and then you've got UConn getting into big time hockey in another two years. Big stage for CT hockey.
 

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Yale once again dominates the 3rd period but gets nothing to show for it.  I'm going to be incredibly frustrated if we lose this game.  :angry:
 

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Yeah except for a couple stretches Yale has completely dominated UMass. I think SOG is something like 35-17 Yale.
 

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Congrats Felix, great game. Well deserved. Now onto Quinnipiac
 
Great day for Ct. Hockey!!
 
EDIT - Felix, Philip, same thing.
 
Congrats PHILIP.
 

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Philip Jeff Frye said:
Incredible individual effort by Miller puts Yale into the final. Amazing!
 
Yeah... Yale dominated all night though.
 
I'm a Lowell fan but we got dominated for almost all of the 70 minutes tonight. Congrats to Yale; not sure why we just couldn't compete but Yale played great tonight. Winning 22 of 25, I didn't expect us to look so poor. But, credit to Yale, they were the far superior team today.  
 

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Wow. Just tuned in as the 1st period drew to a close. All Bobcats despite getting outshot by SCSU 13-9.
 

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QU has crushed Yale all three times they've played - Yale was missing its starting goalie in the first two and they're clearly a better team with Malcolm.  I didn't see the third game but it sounds like the refs played some role in the outcome.  So the optimist in me sees those games as less indicative of Saturday night's outcome than might otherwise be the case.  Does Quinnipiac take Yale for granted or does Yale's run keep them on notice that they can't just show up?
 
It was pretty impressive the way QU took care of business tonight.
 

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Philip Jeff Frye said:
QU has crushed Yale all three times they've played - Yale was missing its starting goalie in the first two and they're clearly a better team with Malcolm.  I didn't see the third game but it sounds like the refs played some role in the outcome.  So the optimist in me sees those games as less indicative of Saturday night's outcome than might otherwise be the case.  Does Quinnipiac take Yale for granted or does Yale's run keep them on notice that they can't just show up?
 
It was pretty impressive the way QU took care of business tonight.
 
I was at the third meeting between the two teams (ECAC 3rd place game). The refs may not have been stellar, but Yale was flat. They were flat out beaten that game. That being said, the Bulldog team that has played through the NCAA tournament does not look like the same team who got shutout in Atlantic City so anything can happen.
 

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As a Yalie, but also as a townie who attended many, many New Haven Nighthawks games, and who owns a Beast of New Haven practice jersey, I really wish this game could be held at the dearly departed, much-unloved New Haven Coliseum. What fun that would be.
 

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OilCanShotTupac said:
As a Yalie, but also as a townie who attended many, many New Haven Nighthawks games, and who owns a Beast of New Haven practice jersey, I really wish this game could be held at the dearly departed, much-unloved New Haven Coliseum. What fun that would be.
As the QU game ended I said the championship should be at the Coliseum.
 

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OilCanShotTupac said:
As expected, the QU/Yale matchup is front-page news in the New Haven Register this morning.
 
Off topic,but this blows my mind:
 
 
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2013/04/12/news/metro/doc5165e0dc5f440718296312.txt?viewmode=2
 
I mean, holy fuck.
 
My son is a senior in high school (in Milford, CT) and when he was picking schools to apply to, I told him to pick 1 or 2 that he'd be sure to get into. He told me he was applying to Quinnipiac. He got in (and it's his top choice) but when we went to accepted students day and the President told the crowd about those stats, I started hitting him, explaining that a school with a less than 10 percent acceptance rate is not a safe choice.
 

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Red(s)HawksFan said:
ESPN3, I imagine.  Otherwise, probably something like firstrow1.eu will have a stream or two.
 
It's blacked out on ESPN3, and I'm not finding it on firstrow or vip. Grrrrrrrrrrr.