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Did they switch the game order? My Comcast TV Guide says BC ND first.
No, that's still the late game.
No, that's still the late game.
NBCSN is supposed to be carrying the BC-ND game, but I'm getting the Fucking Ulf Sammuelson-Neely series here in DC. Anyone know what's up?
Game will not start until 8:30 and it's also on NESN.
I can only assume it will eventually be on NBCSN as well at that time.
I can only assume it will eventually be on NBCSN as well at that time.
Caron and Janney clueless on the game's final play.
Puck never went into the goal and was clearly picked up by a BC player outside the crease.
Puck never went into the goal and was clearly picked up by a BC player outside the crease.
I saw something on the twitter machine that said the uniforms were like Ke$ha meets Merrimack.
ForceAtHome said:
Ferris State beat RPI 6-2 yesterday which made me begin to reconsider my opinion that Ferris State is highly overrated and not that good. Then they lost 3-0 to Colgate today, so all is well in my world again.
Speaking of Colgate, they are doing their best to help themselves out despite a losing record. They are just 8-9-3 this year, but they have some really nice wins/ties. Beating and tying the top two teams in the country this weekend didn't hurt. Here are Colgate's signature results so far that will certainly look good come tournament time:
Home win: #2 Ferris State
Neutral win: #2 Ferris State
Road wins: #5 Union, #11 Clarkson
Road ties: #1 Minnesota, #15 Cornell
The Raiders also still have a slew of currently ranked opponents on the schedule. They will certainly have every chance to play their way into the tournament with #20 Vermont, #11 Clarkson, @ #10 Yale, #15 Cornell, #5 Union, and @ #8 Quinnipiac still on the schedule. Games against RPI, Brown, and SLU could also help them quite a bit depending on how things shape up.
Another ECAC team having a nice little run under the radar is Brown right now. They're still a modest 6-6-2 on the year, but finished 2013 with wins against lowly Harvard and Dartmouth. They carried that momentum forward into 2014 with a tie at #16 Denver and a win at Colorado College tonight. Their next game, in a week, will be a real measuring stick game as it's against Boston College. Brown is a team that entered the year much like last year -- a hard working team with total uncertainty in net. They took off in the second half of 2013, falling just short of a tournament berth in the ECAC title game. The Bears will hope to find another groove in early 2014. With not only BC left on the schedule, but also home-and-homes with Union and Yale, and games against Quinnipiac and Cornell, Brown could play their way into tournament discussion or finish with single digit wins. Either is plausible.
Over 13,000 tickets sold for Yale-Harvard at MSG tomorrow night. Should be a fun evening, at least if Yale plays better than we did in barely managing to tie Harvard back last month.
"Frozen" Fenway, Part Deux.
Maine leads BU 1-0 at 12:35 of the 1st, and we have the first-ever rain delay in the history of Hockey East. A huge lightning bolt strikes just outside the park followed by raucous thunder.
The teams & officials have retreated to the locker rooms and fans are scrambling for cover. It's like a mid-June downpour right now.
Damn, just as play was getting a little chippy, with the Terriers peeved about being outscored 8-0 by the Bears this season.
Maine leads BU 1-0 at 12:35 of the 1st, and we have the first-ever rain delay in the history of Hockey East. A huge lightning bolt strikes just outside the park followed by raucous thunder.
The teams & officials have retreated to the locker rooms and fans are scrambling for cover. It's like a mid-June downpour right now.
Damn, just as play was getting a little chippy, with the Terriers peeved about being outscored 8-0 by the Bears this season.
seriously, they should just cut the college games in the future.
I think what TSC is doing is awesome. And other teams/concept, etc.
and the High School teams is great. (and that is much easier to postpone)
But there's no novelty in this any more.
I think what TSC is doing is awesome. And other teams/concept, etc.
and the High School teams is great. (and that is much easier to postpone)
But there's no novelty in this any more.
Dan to Theo to Ben said:
Last week on NESN, Sam Kennedy hinted that the Sox were planning to "take a break" from Fenway hockey for a couple of years because it's "labor-intensive" to set it up, and also because of how the rink affects the turf.
Totally playing the Mighty Ducks theme music as the crew squeegees off the ice
edit: also a "Quack! Quack!" Chant from the crowd
edit: also a "Quack! Quack!" Chant from the crowd
I think the point is that hockey is, really, totally acceptable as both an indoor game and an outdoor game... and in the big picture, a lot more affordable of a game once the outdoor piece gains greater acceptance.
You can't watch this game in the rain and complain, and then watch the Patriots play in the same conditions and treat that variance as just part of the game.
You can't watch this game in the rain and complain, and then watch the Patriots play in the same conditions and treat that variance as just part of the game.
Good vibe tonight at the Garden. Can't imagine they won't try this again. They kept describing it on the PA system as the "inaugural Rivalry on Ice.". Maybe next year its BC-BU or something, but it was fun tonight. Seemed like we Yalies outnumbered the Cantabs 20 to 1 seeing people in NYC today, particularly on the way in to MSG, but probably two-thirds of the crowd inside was pro-Yale. Good to see Yale rip Harvard wide open during a 5 minute span early in the second period after a rather lethargic first period.
The MSG game was all kinds of fun... I especially loved getting to chat with John Kerry there who was incredibly approachable and reveled in the crowd. Great quote from him in The Times this morning: "it was a little ironic being the senator from Harvard hockey when my heart was with Yale."
First world problems....
First world problems....
Did you guys expect there to be such a big crowd? When I first heard about it, I was thinking of taking my son, but then I just figured it wouldn't be that exciting. Glad it turned out so well and hope they do it again.
who do you think gets those high paying finance and law jobs in NY?VORP Speed said:
Harvard and Yale grads. (Penn plays what, ACHA, and does Columbia even have a team?)
VORP Speed said:
I didn't know what to expect because I saw almost no promotion of it or discussion of it in the NYC sports press (I learned about it on the Yale website when I was buying tickets for a game in November).
I can't see how they wouldn't do it again. It was nearly full and probably would have been full with a little bit of a push.
So, I don't know if I said this before, but I wish college hockey would lose the full-cage facemask.
Comparable age players in Major Junior, and all levels of pro hockey manage to survive with a half-sheild, so I don't see why NCAA players have to look so over-nannied.
Comparable age players in Major Junior, and all levels of pro hockey manage to survive with a half-sheild, so I don't see why NCAA players have to look so over-nannied.
ForceAtHome said:
Colgate keeps on rolling with a 3-2 win over #16 UVM.
ForceAtHome said:
In their only game this weekend, Brown played to a 3-3 tie against #5 Boston College. That's definitely another good weekend for Brown, their third straight now. Next weekend they go on their upstate NY swing with games at SLU and Clarkson.
In other ECAC play this weekend, #7 Quinnipiac had a very good weekend and you can expect them to jump into the top-5 on Monday. They beat #4 Union and RPI. Union won their other game against Princeton while Princeton upset RPI, All in all, a terrible weekend for RPI.
#11 Clarkson and Merrimack split a non-conference pair, #10 Yale obviously beat Harvard at the aforementioned MSG game, and Dartmouth was predictably taken down by #20 UNH. #12 Cornell was scheduled to host UMass this weekend, but poor ice conditions (compressor failure) forced the teams to cancel. They will not reschedule the game.
I don't know about what Harvard did, but Yale certainly promoted the game a lot to the alumni and its local fan base here in New Haven. And the warm afterglow of the a national championship certainly doesn't hurt, especially among alums who might not otherwise have that much interest in Yale hockey. College hockey seems to draw pretty well at the Garden - we've gone to two BU-Cornell games there in the last five years which also had similar crowds.VORP Speed said:
I read yesterday that Harvard and Yale are going to do this again next year, only at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn. It will be interesting to see if the fan interest stays high or if the novelty wears off. There is some talk about trying to do this every year, but I suppose its too soon for the schools to commit to that. Apparently, there has also been talk about creating a Connecticut version of the Beanpot, with Yale, Quinnipiac, Sacred Heart and Uconnn but Yale has been the holdout. With the limited number of games Ivy League teams are allowed to play, committing to that would rule out games like this in the future, which we snooty Ivy Leaguers would prefer.
Philip Jeff Frye said:
I went to the UConn/QU/UMass/SH tourney at the XL Center in Hartford this year, and it was pretty sparsely attended. I do think Yale would help, as well as the idea of establishing it as a permanent thing. I think UConn is going to get significantly better as it joins Hockey East, perhaps pull a QU in 6-8 years (maybe less). Sacred Heart, not so sure.
Can't really replicate the Beanpot in terms of rivalry and proximity (plus easy travel for college kids to get to the actual games). That being said, I'd love to see it happen.
The old NH Coliseum would have been a great venue for it, or a venue that could have been part of a rotation (XL, Webster in Bridgeport).
Brown with a 5-3 win at SLU this evening. Brown captain and #1 defenseman Dennis Robertson (of recent Maple Leaf trade fame) scored 2 goals while adding an assist and leading the Bears with 5 shots. However, due to a late head butting call and subsequent DQ, he'll sit tomorrow against Clarkson. Speaking of which, a win tomorrow at Clarkson would likely begin to trigger some top-20 votes. Over their last six games the Bears are unbeaten (4 wins, 2 ties to ranked opponents). Freshman goalie Tyler Steel's numbers aren't glowing on paper, but he's consistently giving Brown a chance to win. He's 5-1-3 on the season. His only loss came at Cornell, and Lynah isn't exactly the easiest place for a visiting true freshman goalie to succeed.
It was a good evening for the ECAC in non-conference play as Quinnipiac downed Merrimack 6-1 and Union took down UNH 3-1.
Predictably, Cornell topped Harvard 3-2 and Colgate beat Dartmouth 4-1. In perhaps the most meaningful game of the evening, Clarkson hosted and beat Yale 3-2.
It was a good evening for the ECAC in non-conference play as Quinnipiac downed Merrimack 6-1 and Union took down UNH 3-1.
Predictably, Cornell topped Harvard 3-2 and Colgate beat Dartmouth 4-1. In perhaps the most meaningful game of the evening, Clarkson hosted and beat Yale 3-2.
ForceAtHome said:
As of right now, the top 16 in the RPI includes 7 Hockey East teams (with Vermont still in striking distance, tied for 20th):
2 BC
6 Northeastern (tied)
8 Providence (tied)
10 UM-Lowell
12 Notre Dame (tied)
15 Maine
16 UNH (tied)
If the playoffs were being seeded today, that Union loss would have knocked the Wildcats out, since Mercyhurst's auto-bid from the Atlantic would take their spot.
BC dominated tonight and should've won going away if not for some shoddy goaltending. First time I've seen them in person and they have some very active dmen, especially Matheson who might be an even smoother player than Gaudreau. The talent is there, just need the consistency for 60 minutes, which isn't surprising given their youth. That said, they're stacked with raw talent for the future even with the grads and a couple of underclassmen leaving and, as always, in Jerry we trust.
mabrowndog said:
In addition to the 6 would-be Hockey East teams, there would be 4 ECAC teams (Quinnipiac, Union, Cornell, Clarkson) if the season ended today. Yale (t-16), Colgate, (t-18), and Brown (t-22) are all within theoretical striking distance as well. College hockey in New England is strong right now.
Hockey East has never sent more than 5 teams to the tournament. ECAC has not sent more than 3 teams since they switched to the 16-team format in 2003. Combined, they have never topped 7 teams. There is a very strong chance that the 2014 tournament will break all three of those previous highs.
2014 - 10 teams (6 HE, 4 ECAC) [If the season ended today]
2013 - 6 teams (3 HE, 3 ECAC)
2012 - 6 teams (4 HE, 2 ECAC)
2011 - 6 teams (3 HE, 3 ECAC)
2010 - 5 teams (3 HE, 2 ECAC)
2009 - 7 teams (4 HE, 3 ECAC)
2008 - 4 teams (2 HE, 2 ECAC)
2007 - 7 teams (5 HE, 2 ECAC)
2006 - 6 teams (4 HE, 2 ECAC)
2005 - 7 teams (4 HE, 3 ECAC)
2004 - 4 teams (3 HE, 1 ECAC)
2003 - 6 teams (4 HE, 2 ECAC)
Do not be surprised if Northeastern drops out of that. As much as I hate to say it, I don't think their success is sustainable. They're being out shot by an average of 40-26 in conference (overall 35-30).
It's actually quite interesting, the conflict here. Based on post-game press conferences, head coach Jim Madigan is a big supporter of quality of shots, rather than quantity. Maybe he's on to something, but I still think giving up 40 shots a night, regardless of quality, is asking for trouble. We'll see how the rest of the season develops though.
The biggest reason Northeastern is top-10 in pairwise, 2nd in HE, 11th in the polls is Clay Witt. Oh my goodness he has been absolutely ridiculous. He made some incredible saves last night (NU outshot 48-19!!!!!!), and didn't give up a goal until one bounced off his back with 1:30 to go. He's up to a 0.945 save percentage, 2nd in the nation behind Connor Hellebuyck.
Witt's having some kind of special season and Northeastern will go as far as he carries them. Check out an NU game if you can because, at least in my opinion, he should be a major candidate for the Hobey (even though Gaudreau will win, and rightly so).
It's actually quite interesting, the conflict here. Based on post-game press conferences, head coach Jim Madigan is a big supporter of quality of shots, rather than quantity. Maybe he's on to something, but I still think giving up 40 shots a night, regardless of quality, is asking for trouble. We'll see how the rest of the season develops though.
The biggest reason Northeastern is top-10 in pairwise, 2nd in HE, 11th in the polls is Clay Witt. Oh my goodness he has been absolutely ridiculous. He made some incredible saves last night (NU outshot 48-19!!!!!!), and didn't give up a goal until one bounced off his back with 1:30 to go. He's up to a 0.945 save percentage, 2nd in the nation behind Connor Hellebuyck.
Witt's having some kind of special season and Northeastern will go as far as he carries them. Check out an NU game if you can because, at least in my opinion, he should be a major candidate for the Hobey (even though Gaudreau will win, and rightly so).
Colgate beat Clarkson 3-2 on Friday and SLU 7-3 tonight. They're definitely going to jump into the top-20 on Monday. They are absolutely rolling right now. The Raiders are 6-0-1 in their last 7. That's included games against #1 Minnesota, #6 Ferris State (were ranked second when Colgate beat them), #17 Vermont, and #13 Clarkson.
It was a tale of two coins for Brown this weekend. They beat Yale 3-1 in solid fashion on Friday night in Providence. On the back half of their home-and-home tonight, they got trounced by Yale. Due to a major penalty in the game's first two minutes, Yale found themselves in an advantageous position and capitalized. The Bears committed two more penalties while killing the major and Yale was up 3-0 after just 5:03 has elapsed from the game via two 5-on-3 goals and a regular 5-on-4 strike. In the end, Yale ended up on top 6-0.
At this point, Brown is probably going to need to go 9-1 or at least 8-2 with big wins down the stretch of the regular season to earn an at-large bid. The bad news is that they still have games left against Colgate (who will be ranked this week), #12 Cornell, #3 Union twice, and #4 Quinnipiac. The good news is that it gives them a chance to move up in the pairwise if they can get insanely hot and win 4 or 5 of those ranked games. With the tough schedule their fate will likely come down to the ECAC tournament and the auto bid. They should at a minimum be a tough out, and their top line of Lorito-Naclerio-Lappin is one of the best lines in the country.
It was a tale of two coins for Brown this weekend. They beat Yale 3-1 in solid fashion on Friday night in Providence. On the back half of their home-and-home tonight, they got trounced by Yale. Due to a major penalty in the game's first two minutes, Yale found themselves in an advantageous position and capitalized. The Bears committed two more penalties while killing the major and Yale was up 3-0 after just 5:03 has elapsed from the game via two 5-on-3 goals and a regular 5-on-4 strike. In the end, Yale ended up on top 6-0.
At this point, Brown is probably going to need to go 9-1 or at least 8-2 with big wins down the stretch of the regular season to earn an at-large bid. The bad news is that they still have games left against Colgate (who will be ranked this week), #12 Cornell, #3 Union twice, and #4 Quinnipiac. The good news is that it gives them a chance to move up in the pairwise if they can get insanely hot and win 4 or 5 of those ranked games. With the tough schedule their fate will likely come down to the ECAC tournament and the auto bid. They should at a minimum be a tough out, and their top line of Lorito-Naclerio-Lappin is one of the best lines in the country.
Big win for the UVM hockey team as they beat BU at Agganis 6-2. They jump over Notre Dame and into 7th place in the HE standings but are only 4 points back of gaining a home ice spot. They are off this weekend, but next weekend 2/7-2/8 is a huge series in Durham against UNH who is only 2 points up as of right now.
Somehow, someway, here we are on the verge of February and Northeastern is second in HE and t-7th in the Pairwise. Unreal. And their upcoming schedule is: Harvard (Beanpot), UMass Amherst at home, BC/BU (Beanpot), UMass in Amherst, Maine in Boston for 2, and a home and home with BU.
Based on the way UMass and BU have played this year, plus how Maine's played on the road, I have to think anything less than 4-2 would be a disappointment. That, plus a first round Beanpot victory over Harvard should be enough to hold on to an at large bid. But this is NU....
What I'm terrified of is landing that 5th seed and getting a bye BUT having to travel to likely either UNH or Maine. That would be a rough draw after this kind of season.
Based on the way UMass and BU have played this year, plus how Maine's played on the road, I have to think anything less than 4-2 would be a disappointment. That, plus a first round Beanpot victory over Harvard should be enough to hold on to an at large bid. But this is NU....
What I'm terrified of is landing that 5th seed and getting a bye BUT having to travel to likely either UNH or Maine. That would be a rough draw after this kind of season.
Speaking of which, Beanpot starts on Monday. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm pretty excited. BC has won 4 in a row, BC or BU has won every year since 93, NU hasn't won since 1988.
For those who haven't been paying attention, Northeastern has been a very odd team this year. In conference play they're getting outshot by an average of roughly 40-26. Yet somehow they've swept UMass Lowell, taken 3 of 4 points from Providence, taken 2 of 3 from Notre Dame and Vermont, and swept Lowell. The Huskies also lost their first HE game since November this past weekend (vs. ND). Head coach Jim Madigan has gone on and on about quality of opportunities, rather than quantity, and (so far at least) that seems to have worked.
They reason for this is two fold. One, Clay Witt has been astounding. He leads the nation in SV% and has stolen a number of games for the Huskies. If Johnny Gaudreau didn't exist, Witt would be the favorite for player of the year in Hockey East.
Second, is Northeastern's opportunistic scoring led by senior Braden Pimm, freshmen Mike Szmatula and Dalen Hedges, and of course reigning Beanpot MVP Kevin Roy. Roy's been quiet lately, though, only one goal since the holidays.
The Huskies biggest weakness is probably special teams. They are a -2 in net special teams, which matches UMass Amherst and is only better than Merrimack and BU this season. They've given up several short-handed goals too...
IF Northeastern plays the way it's capable of, I'm expecting another NU vs. BC final. But that's probably where it ends, though, because... well it's BC.
For those who haven't been paying attention, Northeastern has been a very odd team this year. In conference play they're getting outshot by an average of roughly 40-26. Yet somehow they've swept UMass Lowell, taken 3 of 4 points from Providence, taken 2 of 3 from Notre Dame and Vermont, and swept Lowell. The Huskies also lost their first HE game since November this past weekend (vs. ND). Head coach Jim Madigan has gone on and on about quality of opportunities, rather than quantity, and (so far at least) that seems to have worked.
They reason for this is two fold. One, Clay Witt has been astounding. He leads the nation in SV% and has stolen a number of games for the Huskies. If Johnny Gaudreau didn't exist, Witt would be the favorite for player of the year in Hockey East.
Second, is Northeastern's opportunistic scoring led by senior Braden Pimm, freshmen Mike Szmatula and Dalen Hedges, and of course reigning Beanpot MVP Kevin Roy. Roy's been quiet lately, though, only one goal since the holidays.
The Huskies biggest weakness is probably special teams. They are a -2 in net special teams, which matches UMass Amherst and is only better than Merrimack and BU this season. They've given up several short-handed goals too...
IF Northeastern plays the way it's capable of, I'm expecting another NU vs. BC final. But that's probably where it ends, though, because... well it's BC.
Michigan defeats Wisconsin at Yost tonight 3-1. Michigan took an early lead and didn't relent. Wisconsin got kind of a freak goal on a bouncing puck, but that's all that they could muster. The Badgers really couldn't make a push because they kept taking penalty after penalty. The two teams face off against tomorrow.
Holidays have to be tough for Kevin Roy because he's probably forced to spend even more time with his brother Derek, who lost his chance at an Ivy League degree because his Kevin is selfish and Jerry Keefe back stabbed the Brown staff he used to work for.Laser Show said:
Reigning Beanpot MVP and defending worst brother in college hockey champion. Kevin Roy.
JShams said:
:fap:
In related news, Brown won 5-2 tonight over a very hot Colgate team that had not lost in seven consecutive games until tonight. The Bears host a Cornell team tomorrow who have not lost in 8 straight games, their last loss dating back to November. Hoping the Bears can end another streak tomorrow. A win for the Big Red would likely seal an Ivy League title for Cornell as they are currently 5-0-1. Brown is 4-2 in Ivy games. Beating Cornell would not just put the Bears back into the fray for a potential Ivy League title, but also give them a boost toward a potential ECAC bye and an outside shot at an at-large bid to the dance.