Craig Breslow: Red Sox CBO

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Because he's never done the job before. Nor did he train for it, or shadow it, or apprentice. And he's got only 4 years experience on the .org side of things.

Now he's in a new power structure with new personalities. . .one that other GM candidates declined to interview for.

It's entirely possible he does well. It's entirely possible he does not.

I mean, we seem to think the job matters right? Like the GM would have an impact? (I can't really tell with the board anymore.)
Sure, agree with all that, but I just don't know what a disaster looks like in terms of the outcome. You have pointed to the causes but what are the effects? I ask because it would help to think about those when assessing whether we really should worry about the causes.
 

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One thing that I keep thinking about in regards to Breslow specifically, and him jumping from the #3 chair to the #1 chair, at least as it relates to the smattering of candidates that ostensibly would have been going from the second decision maker to the top, is how much his background in pitching helped him stand out above those.

I think most of us agree that the Red Sox are in a pretty desperate situation when it comes to starting pitching. I think we can agree that Bello is a top half of the rotation pitcher (some will say he's a 2, others a 3) and we feel pretty good about the 5 spot between one of Crawford and Houck (I think). Then, at least myself personally, I have no belief in anyone else to fill lets say positions 1, 3 and 4 from the current MLB roster, and I don't think there is anyone in AAA who profiles to one of those spots in 2024 and only Gonzalez with even the reasonable potential to fill that in 2024 or 2025 in AA.

All of which is to say - obviously - the Red Sox need a crap ton of pitching.

If we agree (or at least hope) that a significant portion of the next couple of off-seasons need to be dedicated to filling those 3 holes in the big league rotation and acquiring prospects for the AAA and AA rotations (or developing those already in the system) to be part of the 2024+ core, I can see why someone with Breslow's profile (pitching expertise) would be in higher demand for this specific organization than someone that is a #2 and with experience in the negotiation aspect but not the identification and development in terms of pitching.


Or - more simply - if the Red Sox are going to allocate approximately $175m to one top half of the rotation starting pitcher and the prospect capital (or another $175m) to acquire a second top half of the rotation pitcher, you want to be VERY confident you're identifying the right pieces. Breslow's background could give them a higher degree of confidence in him selecting those pieces vs Fuld, Sestanovich, Levine, Gomes and similar.
 

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I have trouble comparing the Theo situation to the Breslow situation at all.

First, Larry Lucchino was running the Red Sox, straight out of the owners mouth. Theo was a complement to him in terms of probably everything - personality, skill set, old school/new school, etc.

I can't figure out what Sam Kennedy does, but it's not what Lucchino does. Obviously Henry/Werner are grooming him to be the face of ownership, but to these eyes and ears, he's kind of another Werner - buzz words and pom poms. The current POBO is much more the face of day to day decisionmaking.

What is fascinating to me about how everything has transpired is that they looked at a front office that has produced two terrible seasons in a row and decided that everyone in it deserved a raise and a promotion except Bloom. That's a complete indictment on the guy. This wasn't them tearing it down, this is the team thinking that they have all the pieces in place to run a great baseball team, except the guy on top was holding everything back. Not my opinion (I based GM and MGR on wins and losses, so I don't feel capable of evaluating how the sausage gets made), but clearly what the team determined.

Further, have to figure that Sam Kennedy's best friend, who is obviously well tuned into what is going on in baseball, probably let his best friend know that Bloom wasn't cut for the job, hard to think that the replacement is a direct hire of Theo Epstein and that Theo's voice wasn't part of the decision tree.

My instincts are that Theo Epstein thinks the Red Sox are better today, and that's good enough in my eyes given that I'd like to watch some baseball that matters again.
Well said! We forget the connections in the relatively tiny business environment that is Major League Baseball. I'm intrigued that Breslow and Bailey are evidently very good friends. Might be a 2fer, CoBO and Pitching coach. Of course, if the pitching got worse, he'd have to fire his good friend, so maybe Enterprise Pitching VP.
 

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Stuff from the press release...

"Each year, one baseball club emerges with a championship," Red Sox Principal Owner John Henry said in the release announcing Breslow's hiring. "Our organization continues to have significantly high standards and expectations with a goal of being able to compete annually for that coveted privilege. After the 2018 World Series, we sought to build a future that would avoid the ups and downs normally associated with winning. That plainly hasn't happened. Despite the results, over the past few years, substantial efforts have been made and considerable organizational progress has occurred behind the scenes, but not at the major league level. We feel strongly that Craig is the right person at the right time to lead our baseball department. Craig's understanding of the game is remarkable. What convinced us to bring him aboard in this capacity was his highly strategic philosophy and his grasp of what it takes operationally in today's evolving game to excel at the highest level in player acquisition, development, and execution at the major league level. We are excited to welcome him back."

We met a number of extremely qualified candidates and Craig's vision for how to bring another World Series Championship to Boston was extremely thoughtful, compelling, and inspiring," added Red Sox Chairman Tom Werner. "He not only has deep experience as a front office executive, but he's also a former player who knows the market extremely well. And while his baseball expertise remains the dominant factor, his genuine aspiration to create a better world sets him apart as an extraordinary leader. I'm eager to welcome him to the Red Sox and look forward to the impact he will have on our operation."

Red Sox president and CEO Sam Kennedy said that Breslow was a "standout candidate" in Boston's search for Chaim Bloom's replacement.

"The praise from fellow baseball executives was impressive, but what truly distinguished him were the resounding character references from former teammates, including David Ortiz, Dustin Pedroia, David Ross, Brock Holt, and Kevin Youkilis," said Kennedy. "Craig knows what it takes to be successful in Boston and he's up for the challenge."
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/red-sox-announce-hiring-of-craig-breslow-as-new-chief-baseball-officer/
 

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Re: Breslow's experience level, I would bet the team will hire an ex-GM (or other front-office type) to serve in an advisory role to maybe help with some of the things that will be new to him in his current position, kind of like how Theo had Bill Lajoie and Cherington had the much-maligned Allard Baird.
 

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Re: Breslow's experience level, I would bet the team will hire an ex-GM (or other front-office type) to serve in an advisory role to maybe help with some of the things that will be new to him in his current position, kind of like how Theo had Bill Lajoie and Cherington had the much-maligned Allard Baird.
Someone like Al Avila would be ideal.
 

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With the Kennedy Theo connection perhaps Breslow was the target all along. Questions start to form on Blooms effectiveness and Kennedy went for it early rather than miss out on possibly the next great CBO? I'm easily excited but after reading Gammons, Henry and Breslow's statement I'm ready to run through a wall. It's an exciting hire if nothing else.
 

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Given the Red Sox plethora of international arms in the minors I’m really anticipating the Breslow era. Perales and Monegro already looked like they had ace potential, if Breslow can help get that out of them, they’ve already won the hire. Additionally Paez already pounds the strike zone with surprisingly good command for his age, if Breslow’s program helps him gain velocity he’s another potential front of the rotation starter.
 

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I think most of us agree that the Red Sox are in a pretty desperate situation when it comes to starting pitching. I think we can agree that Bello is a top half of the rotation pitcher (some will say he's a 2, others a 3) and we feel pretty good about the 5 spot between one of Crawford and Houck (I think).
Per WARP, which does a much better job with pitchers than bWAR (which is too results oriented) or fWAR (which is too focused on what it thinks should have happened rather than what did), Bello is already the 26th best pitcher in MLB. He is not a #3 starter in any universe remotely resembling reality. Give him something better than the worst defense in NCAA Division VII ball and he’s going to be better still. By virtue of having Story/Urias in the MI and Little Raffi in CF Boston’s D will be actual MLB quality. Especially if, in the short term, Duran is moving to LF and Yoshi to DH/4th OF. Abreu in RF might be a downgrade from Dugie, but not enough to offset the improvements elsewhere.
 

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Given the Red Sox plethora of international arms in the minors I’m really anticipating the Breslow era. Perales and Monegro already looked like they had ace potential, if Breslow can help get that out of them, they’ve already won the hire. Additionally Paez already pounds the strike zone with surprisingly good command for his age, if Breslow’s program helps him gain velocity he’s another potential front of the rotation starter.
Who drafted/aquired these 3 that you mentioned?
 

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Who drafted/aquired these 3 that you mentioned?
Perales was signed in 2019 at age 16, Monegro in 2020 at age 18, Paez in 2021 at 16. So two out of three are Bloom signees, the other Dombrowski. All young enough that if they develop into anything, it's as much a credit to the new administration as the old.
 

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Perales was signed in 2019 at age 16, Monegro in 2020 at age 18, Paez in 2021 at 16. So two out of three are Bloom signees, the other Dombrowski. All young enough that if they develop into anything, it's as much a credit to the new administration as the old.
Thank you Sir. I appreciate the reply.
 

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“Deep experience as a front office executive“? I’ve been wanting to see more of Sox ownership through all of this, but this kind of BS makes me glad we’ve seen less. Why isn’t it enough to just level with us? He‘s done great things in his time as a front office executive and we are excited about what he brings to Boston. Does Werner, or whoever wrote that quote attributed to him, actually believe he’s fooling anyone with this kind of up-is-down misdirection? Breslow is an up and coming exec with a relatively short track record. They’re betting on his upside not his experience.

Anyway, there are reasons to be optimistic about Breslow. He appears to be smart, innovative, and hard working. We’re all hopeful it all adds up to long term success for the Sox. If it doesn’t, I hope it leads to a reevaluation of the effectiveness of Kennedy’s work for the organization.
 
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Sure, agree with all that, but I just don't know what a disaster looks like in terms of the outcome. You have pointed to the causes but what are the effects? I ask because it would help to think about those when assessing whether we really should worry about the causes.
Uhh, the disaster outcome would be that he's bad at identifying and acquiring talent and managing a roster?
 

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Per WARP, which does a much better job with pitchers than bWAR (which is too results oriented) or fWAR (which is too focused on what it thinks should have happened rather than what did), Bello is already the 26th best pitcher in MLB. He is not a #3 starter in any universe remotely resembling reality. Give him something better than the worst defense in NCAA Division VII ball and he’s going to be better still. By virtue of having Story/Urias in the MI and Little Raffi in CF Boston’s D will be actual MLB quality. Especially if, in the short term, Duran is moving to LF and Yoshi to DH/4th OF. Abreu in RF might be a downgrade from Dugie, but not enough to offset the improvements elsewhere.
Totally fair. I was just simply allowing that if someone liked Bello less than I did, I didn't want to get bogged down in discussing on where Bello is within the top half of the rotation, just that I think we can all agree he IS a top half of the rotation starter.

And that the Sox need two more.
 

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They should delay his press conference until two weeks after the World Series, then wait until he gets a question on his philosophy on roster construction and reply, “I’m going to let Shohei Ohtani and Yoshinobu Yanamoto answer that question for me”, as they both walk up to the podium in Red Sox jerseys.
 

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Uhh, the disaster outcome would be that he's bad at identifying and acquiring talent and managing a roster?
Though I wonder if identifying talent is a skill that requires years of experience in leadership. Wouldn't that be more a matter of talent and insight? Now - I CAN see how negotiating is an acquired skill; negotiating trades and contracts. Though Breslow's experience, intelligence, and track record with the Cubs make me optimistic about his ability to identify and develop talent.
 

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“Deep experience as a front office executive“? I’ve been wanting to see more of Sox ownership through all of this, but this kind of BS makes me glad we’ve seen less. Why isn’t it enough to just level with us? He‘s done great things in his time as a front office executive and we are excited about what he brings to Boston. Does Werner, or whoever wrote that quote attributed to him, actually believe he’s fooling anyone with this kind of up-is-down misdirection? Breslow is an up and coming exec with a relatively short track record. They’re betting on his upside not his experience.

Anyway, there are reasons to be optimistic about Breslow. He appears to be smart, innovative, and hard working. We’re all hopeful it all adds up to long term success for the Sox. If it doesn’t, I hope it leads to a reevaluation of the effectiveness of Kennedy’s work for the organization.
It's meaningless PR. As meaningless as all the praise and character articles will be in two months. The public perception of Breslow will be driven by how much he sprinkles scoopy tidbits to the media influencers, or kills the org discipline on leaks. (And secondarily, how much the frustrated(?) lifers in the org like him.)

And all that's besides whether he can actually do the job well. (Which I sincerely hope he can.)
 

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Uhh, the disaster outcome would be that he's bad at identifying and acquiring talent and managing a roster?
Right, and he's done the talent evaluation stuff for a while now. This is my point. He may literally be "inexperienced" at being GM but for the important components of his job, as far as we know, he actually has solid experience and performed extremely well.
 

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Sure, agree with all that, but I just don't know what a disaster looks like in terms of the outcome. You have pointed to the causes but what are the effects? I ask because it would help to think about those when assessing whether we really should worry about the causes.
Some of it's scope, some of it's situational, but I think it points a couple outcomes of concern.

I'm assuming he's going to deal with stuff he's never fully dealt with before or been the final decision-maker on. While he's doing that, he's also essentially going to have to learn the org structure and vet it, while at the same time mining it for good information. This sets up an org inertia problem. And we don't really know the extent of his power to reshape things - is he bringing in new hires (and does he have the contacts for that?), can he clean house, or was part of the deal to (insert fruity voice) "work with our existing world-class team, blah blah blah."

So, for example in the short term, at the ML club level it wouldn't shock me if he's slow to grab FAs this offseason, or is somehow not well calibrated re: offers (too much or too little). And in terms of competitiveness in 2024, that probably matters not only for the FAs, but in the greater scheme of acquiring pieces or trading them.

He's probably better suited (at this point) to evaluating pitchers instead of field players. So I'm more optimistic re: pitching, but for position players. . .well, the org has had a mixed bag recently, both in terms of talent and medical predictions. (For example, Story - all the indications were that they expected him to come back and hit in the second half.) Does the org have targets? Is Kennedy or someone else pushing a vision on Breslow? And if so, what is it?

I'm also concerned about the GM/Field Staff mesh. I've posted generally on the hitting. It sucks. Almost no one gets better. Which is a top-down thing. Is that something Breslow has the authority to fix? The same re: the defense. Are they maybe going to kind of sort of try something new in Spring Training? Or is there a plan? And if there is, can it be implemented? Or will Breslow tread lightly with an inherited manager?

Conversely, I'm less concerned with the Draft. The Sox have been doing very well lately. I assume it wasn't Bloom alone who was involved.

At the MiL level - again, how much power does he have? Is he going to bring people on, or teach (somewhat resistant coaches?) "the Breslow Way"? And regardless, how long will that take to work?


Overall, I think the worst scenario simply that he's given a honeymoon year, treads lightly, and "real results" are expected in 2025. Meanwhile, nothing really gets fixed. I couldn't say that would be a squander of a season, but I do think the club has the talent depth to compete with some reshaping (e.g., intelligently trading out of that depth.) To the extent that 2024 sets a bad pattern, we might not really see "Breslow's vision" until 2025. And then, hey, it's a first year so let's go to 2026 for the year we're really getting serious about competing.
 

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Right, and he's done the talent evaluation stuff for a while now. This is my point. He may literally be "inexperienced" at being GM but for the important components of his job, as far as we know, he actually has solid experience and performed extremely well.
Do we know that he he has "solid experience and performed extremely well" when it comes to talent evaluation? In order to determine that we would have to 1st determine how the Cubs have done at talent evaluation the past few years, & then be able to parse how much of that is related to Breslow's expertise, & how much is related to that of the multiple people ahead of him on the organizational hierarchy (or the people lower on the hierarchy doing the actual scouting, statistical analysis, whatever).

I skimmed through this list of trades & didn't see it as obviously great or obviously bad without doing a deeper dive.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/transactions/chicago-cubs/trade/

Similarly, this list of free agents:

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/transactions/chicago-cubs/signed/

Their big pitcher signing this past off-season was Jameson Taillon (4/$68m) & I said it was a bad signing at the time & he had a bad season (4.84 ERA, 4.49 xFIP, 1.6 fWAR, -0.1 bWAR). On the other hand, the big hitter signings, Swanson & Bellinger, both looked quite good.

The year before, their big pitcher signing was Marcus Stroman (3/$71m with the 3rd year being a player option). Stroman has been ~fine (4.7 fWAR & 4.2 bWAR in the 2 seasons combined), but not as good as he was in his 2 previous seasons elsewhere (7.3 fWAR & 4.6 bWAR). According to Fangraphs he has been worth $38.4m the past 2 seasons & they paid him $50m.

Who knows, maybe he pushed for all their best signings & trades, while chaffing against the foolishness of all their worst ones. & maybe he was heavily involved in all of their best draft picks over the past few years like Pete Crow-Armstrong & Cade Horton. But it's an awfully big leap of faith going from these maybes to your statement about his proven track record.
 

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Overall, I think the worst scenario simply that he's given a honeymoon year, treads lightly, and "real results" are expected in 2025.
It would be really hard for Breslow to fully trust the in-house grades he inherits on minor league players without having time to form his own conclusions. Generally, I think that it is easier to assess free agents than it is to decide which prospects to trade, so I anticipate more of the former in order to avoid being responsible for sending off the next Bagwell.

This is not a criticism of Breslow, just the reality of hiring someone from outside the organization at the end of October.
 
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Given the Red Sox plethora of international arms in the minors I’m really anticipating the Breslow era. Perales and Monegro already looked like they had ace potential, if Breslow can help get that out of them, they’ve already won the hire. Additionally Paez already pounds the strike zone with surprisingly good command for his age, if Breslow’s program helps him gain velocity he’s another potential front of the rotation starter.
I'm probably higher on Winkelman than Monegro or Paez (just too young still). Winkelman significantly cut down on his BB% over the course of the full season last year. He was looking seriously problematic at best and likely a Plus bullpen arm... but around mid May he cut his walk-rate down to an acceptable margin, and I suspect he'll continue that trend. It reminds me of Lester where there was a lot of questions regarding his ability to stick as a starter due to his BB%. Both have high K rates and a good feel for 4 pitches and both are on the same trajectory.
I'm hoping and believing that he'll get a post trade deadline call-up and maybe land in the bullpen for the stretch run and expecting him in the rotation in '25.
 

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The more I dive into stuff the more concerned I get...

Let's take Chris Martin for example. He had a 4.31 ERA in Chicago. They traded him to the Dodgers for a pretty bad IF (Zack McKinstry), & Martin proceeded to have a 1.46 ERA with the Dodgers, & then signed with the Red Sox where he had a 1.05 ERA this season. At the time the Red Sox signed Martin, I lauded the Dodgers for altering his pitch mix to his strengths, & stated my belief that because of the changes the Dodgers made, he would be a good signing for the Red Sox (this is just my 1st post on the subject).

It looks like the primary change Martin made between the Cubs & Dodgers is throwing more fastballs. His fastball & cutter have always given opponents more problems than his other pitches, so focusing on these more appears to have led to greater success & more popouts.

http://dodgersdigest.com/2022/09/19/chris-martin-is-cutting-his-way-to-success-with-the-dodgers/

& the never walking people thing is kind of cool. In 26 1/3 innings with the Dodgers (including 2 playoff games), he had 35 strikeouts, & allowed 1 walk.
But the fact that the Cubs did not make this adjustment, especially if Breslow is supposed to be this pitching savant, is pretty concerning. Rather than making a good adjustment, they traded him for a mediocre infielder, who they then traded to the Tigers for a bad relief pitcher (Carlos Guzman who is 25 & had a 4.86 ERA/5.01 xFIP in 76.1 IP in AA this season). Remember how much vitriol the Red Sox got for not fixing Brasier & leaving the Dodgers to do it?

Will absolutely give him the benefit of the doubt & hope for the best...but I'm less optimistic than I was yesterday, & I would feel better if we had the people in our corner who fix pitchers like Brasier & Martin, not another guy who didn't. But Breslow isn't the Major League pitching coach...that's another former Red Sox lefty Tommy Hottovy who has been with the Cubs org since '14 & was hired as their pitching coach about a month before Breslow was hired.

Hopefully they bring in Andrew Bailey as the Red Sox pitching coach, bring in someone else great to be the new Worcester pitching coach, & the synergy from top to bottom of the organization is outstanding.
 

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Chris Martin had a 3.02 FIP for the Cubs, and 2.44 for the Sox. How much can we read into ERA especially over pretty small samples? He struck out way more with the Cubs, just gave up a lot of homers. Which could be random noise.
 

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Some of it's scope, some of it's situational, but I think it points a couple outcomes of concern.

I'm assuming he's going to deal with stuff he's never fully dealt with before or been the final decision-maker on. While he's doing that, he's also essentially going to have to learn the org structure and vet it, while at the same time mining it for good information. This sets up an org inertia problem. And we don't really know the extent of his power to reshape things - is he bringing in new hires (and does he have the contacts for that?), can he clean house, or was part of the deal to (insert fruity voice) "work with our existing world-class team, blah blah blah."

So, for example in the short term, at the ML club level it wouldn't shock me if he's slow to grab FAs this offseason, or is somehow not well calibrated re: offers (too much or too little). And in terms of competitiveness in 2024, that probably matters not only for the FAs, but in the greater scheme of acquiring pieces or trading them.

He's probably better suited (at this point) to evaluating pitchers instead of field players. So I'm more optimistic re: pitching, but for position players. . .well, the org has had a mixed bag recently, both in terms of talent and medical predictions. (For example, Story - all the indications were that they expected him to come back and hit in the second half.) Does the org have targets? Is Kennedy or someone else pushing a vision on Breslow? And if so, what is it?

I'm also concerned about the GM/Field Staff mesh. I've posted generally on the hitting. It sucks. Almost no one gets better. Which is a top-down thing. Is that something Breslow has the authority to fix? The same re: the defense. Are they maybe going to kind of sort of try something new in Spring Training? Or is there a plan? And if there is, can it be implemented? Or will Breslow tread lightly with an inherited manager?

Conversely, I'm less concerned with the Draft. The Sox have been doing very well lately. I assume it wasn't Bloom alone who was involved.

At the MiL level - again, how much power does he have? Is he going to bring people on, or teach (somewhat resistant coaches?) "the Breslow Way"? And regardless, how long will that take to work?


Overall, I think the worst scenario simply that he's given a honeymoon year, treads lightly, and "real results" are expected in 2025. Meanwhile, nothing really gets fixed. I couldn't say that would be a squander of a season, but I do think the club has the talent depth to compete with some reshaping (e.g., intelligently trading out of that depth.) To the extent that 2024 sets a bad pattern, we might not really see "Breslow's vision" until 2025. And then, hey, it's a first year so let's go to 2026 for the year we're really getting serious about competing.
OK, good stuff there. I guess my typically optimistic take would be that the situation he's coming into is favorable for a few reasons. First, on the position player side, the development of several close-to-Boston prospects is baked in and just needs to continue. In fact, their top prospects are so heavily tilted to hitters that I'm not sure they need to add any for a long time. They do need to assess their individual value as trade chips. Hoping Romero stays around to provide continuity there.

On the free agent bidding war side, maybe I'm wrong and the Sox have really screwed this up, but you have to think one of the first questions they asked Breslow and explored with him and people who know him is, are you ready to jump straight into a critical free agent market and acquire pitching? There too, so much of the context for this is baked in, it doesn't seem all that tricky to decide on a strategy. They must have told him he had money to spend or he wouldn't have wanted the job, would he? Anyway, he shouldn't be overwhelmed with where to begin.

Side note: I wonder if the Cubs are going to put a bunch of arms on their 40 before the Rule 5 draft now...
 

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I guess my typically optimistic take would be that the situation he's coming into is favorable for a few reasons.
Yeah, I could see him succeeding also. A lot of it we just don't have any strong information on, one way or the other. But I think you're right in that he should have some significant money for signings.
 

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on the position player side, the development of several close-to-Boston prospects is baked in and just needs to continue. In fact, their top prospects are so heavily tilted to hitters that I'm not sure they need to add any for a long time. They do need to assess their individual value as trade chips. Hoping Romero stays around to provide continuity there.
I would like the organizational philosophy to be to draft hitters (and later, lottery ticket pitching) and then trade the surplus for pitching..

Drafting pitching in the early rounds appears to be a terrible waste of resources.
 

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Chris Martin had a 3.02 FIP for the Cubs, and 2.44 for the Sox. How much can we read into ERA especially over pretty small samples? He struck out way more with the Cubs, just gave up a lot of homers. Which could be random noise.
Well, I think the problem was that he was allowing home runs with those tertiary pitches that he should have been throwing less of. It's true that 20.8% of FB's being homers in Chicago compared to 4.5% in LA & 6.8% in Boston is definitely a large departure. Part of that may have to do with the pitch mix as well in terms of the occasional hanger. But it definitely wasn't just home runs. Opponents had a .295 BA (.393 BABIP) against him with the Cubs, .133 (.200 BABIP) with the Dodgers, & .236 (.301 BABIP) this year with Boston.

Martin has not allowed a homer on a cutter since 2019. That's 696 total cutters in the past 4 years.

During that 4 year span, he has allowed:

1 homer on 275 sinkers (1 every 275 pitches)
1 homer on 267 split finger fastballs (1 every 267 pitches)
8 homers on 1,002 4-seam fastballs (1 every 125.3 pitches)
2 homers on 178 sweepers (1 every 89 pitches)
1 homer on 84 curveballs (1 every 84 pitches)

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/chris-martin-455119?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

So it kind of makes sense if he reduces the sweepers & curveballs, he'll reduce the home runs, even though those are obviously small sample-sizes. But he threw 0 curveballs this season & 29 sweepers. The sweepers & the 4-seamer were his least effective pitches. He did throw 10 sliders, which were his 1st ones since '19, and those were very effective, but that is the tiniest of sample sizes. Both of the homers he allowed this year were on the 4-seamer.

Lots of ways to play with the data, & the bottom line is who really knows? & regardless, even if we did know the Cubs didn't maximize Martin, how much of that would be on Breslow anyway?
 

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On the free agent bidding war side, maybe I'm wrong and the Sox have really screwed this up, but you have to think one of the first questions they asked Breslow and explored with him and people who know him is, are you ready to jump straight into a critical free agent market and acquire pitching? There too, so much of the context for this is baked in, it doesn't seem all that tricky to decide on a strategy. They must have told him he had money to spend or he wouldn't have wanted the job, would he? Anyway, he shouldn't be overwhelmed with where to begin.
I have no idea what to expect out of Breslow, but it's pretty hard for me to imagine a realistic scenario where he wouldn't want the job, given:

* he gets to skip a level in his career progression
* even if this job doesn't work out, he gets valuable experience for a future job (i.e. for him it's a win/win)

Put another way, I can't easily how he would be in the drivers seat in these negotiations. Which then biases me to think we settled.
 

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OK, good stuff there. I guess my typically optimistic take would be that the situation he's coming into is favorable for a few reasons. First, on the position player side, the development of several close-to-Boston prospects is baked in and just needs to continue. In fact, their top prospects are so heavily tilted to hitters that I'm not sure they need to add any for a long time. They do need to assess their individual value as trade chips. Hoping Romero stays around to provide continuity there.

On the free agent bidding war side, maybe I'm wrong and the Sox have really screwed this up, but you have to think one of the first questions they asked Breslow and explored with him and people who know him is, are you ready to jump straight into a critical free agent market and acquire pitching? There too, so much of the context for this is baked in, it doesn't seem all that tricky to decide on a strategy. They must have told him he had money to spend or he wouldn't have wanted the job, would he? Anyway, he shouldn't be overwhelmed with where to begin.

Side note: I wonder if the Cubs are going to put a bunch of arms on their 40 before the Rule 5 draft now...
Even without Romero, they have lots of guys familiar with the farm system including Paul Toboni (33) who was hired in '15, promoted to director of amateur scouting in '19, & oversaw the '20, '21 & '22 drafts before being promoted to VP of Amateur Scouting & Player Development. He was replaced as director of amateur scouting by Devin Pearson (29) who ran the '23 draft & has been with the org since '17. Both are former college baseball players (Pearson was good enough to be drafted in the 30th round in '12) & both are Cal grads.
 

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Even without Romero, they have lots of guys familiar with the farm system including Paul Toboni (33) who was hired in '15, promoted to director of amateur scouting in '19, & oversaw the '20, '21 & '22 drafts before being promoted to VP of Amateur Scouting & Player Development. He was replaced as director of amateur scouting by Devin Pearson (29) who ran the '23 draft & has been with the org since '17. Both are former college baseball players (Pearson was good enough to be drafted in the 30th round in '12) & both are Cal grads.
^^^
I'm glad you know the names, I don't. But I hear you, they've been building out the support for a few years, if Breslow doesn't clash with them for some reason he should be walking into a strong setup.
 

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Drafting pitching in the early rounds appears to be a terrible waste of resources.
This is constantly changing of course, I think there is some truth here, but I'd maybe put the dividing line between the first round and the rest of the draft.

This is what NY has done in recent years, a position player in the first round and then lots of SPs after that, as early as the second round. They have missed on some of these guys (hello TJ Sikkema) but have hit on/developed a bunch from the 2021 and 2022 drafts specifically. Drew Thorpe was the #61 overall pick in 2022 (2nd round, many called it a reach) and won MiLB pitcher of the year in his first season this year, but there are a bunch of other examples too.

https://www.milb.com/player/drew-thorpe-689672
 

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Not a criticism *at all*, but this is one thing about the recent Toboni/Pearson drafts. As others have noted, we spend almost all of the domestic draft capital on position players. For good reason!

But we’re increasingly finding affordable pitching in IFA, which is much harder for fans to follow and evaluate. So e.g. Bello kind of came out of nowhere for most fans, even those who know exactly who a domestic prospect like Kyle Teel or Roman Anthony is. These Caribbean pitchers come stateside at 18 or 19 after typically signing at 16, the market mechanisms that determine their bonuses are, umm, opaque (and occasionally literally criminal), and few observers know anything about them until they pop up in the FCL and post some publicly available stats, which even then we don’t have any context to interpret.

I suspect/hope that this means that we on the outside have been underestimating the efficacy of our pitching development for a minute: that some of these guys like Monegro and Perales, who are just now showing promising things at promising ages in full-season ball, will pop out of nowhere (like Bello did) in their early 20s. Of course it won’t be out of nowhere, really; it will just have been off our radar.
 

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This is constantly changing of course, I think there is some truth here, but I'd maybe put the dividing line between the first round and the rest of the draft.

This is what NY has done in recent years, a position player in the first round and then lots of SPs after that, as early as the second round. They have missed on some of these guys (hello TJ Sikkema) but have hit on/developed a bunch from the 2021 and 2022 drafts specifically. Drew Thorpe was the #61 overall pick in 2022 (2nd round, many called it a reach) and won MiLB pitcher of the year in his first season this year, but there are a bunch of other examples too.

https://www.milb.com/player/drew-thorpe-689672
It's not like teams haven't had success with first round pitchers. George Kirby, Alek Manoah, Grayson Rodriguez are all recent examples. But I'm not sure how you see past the risk, since a lot of it is injury stuff that happens post draft. I'd take Kirby over lots and lots of position players, though. I guess my point is, the standard approach would be what you identify, but at some point you should also be prepared to take on the risk. Right now the Sox' system is so tilted toward position players that they might want to take the risk.
 

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Perales was signed in 2019 at age 16, Monegro in 2020 at age 18, Paez in 2021 at 16. So two out of three are Bloom signees, the other Dombrowski. All young enough that if they develop into anything, it's as much a credit to the new administration as the old.
I believe Eddie Romero is the correct answer. I have no qualms with the Breslow hire, but most of the exciting young players in the system have come on Romero’s International Scouting watch: Devers, the aforementioned Perales, Monegro, and Paez, and also Bello, Rafaela, Bleis, Wikelman, and even Yoshida.

Outside of Mayer and Anthony, these are the most exciting young talents in the system (excepting Yoshida, who is older but new to MLB).
 
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View: https://youtu.be/-uwLKn8NL2s?si=IokItLTJqZLbZrg1&t=271


WEEI this morning echos the reporting that Theo played a big role in Breslow getting the Sox gig. (The segment in question starts around 4:30 to about 6:00)
"I had heard that Theo had played a really big role in this, and really believes in him Breslow moving forward."
From what I've heard this is correct. The Sox did approach Theo about the job, he turned them down which is why SK was able to rule Theo returning out immediately. Theo kept in contact with SK due to their friendship, and Theo voiced significant support for Breslow. Theo is on very good terms with the Red Sox, but does not want the job ever again.
 

InsideTheParker

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From what I've heard this is correct. The Sox did approach Theo about the job, he turned them down which is why SK was able to rule Theo returning out immediately. Theo kept in contact with SK due to their friendship, and Theo voiced significant support for Breslow. Theo is on very good terms with the Red Sox, but does not want the job ever again.
I thought Epstein was hoping/waiting to become the next commish.
 

Quatchie

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With the Kennedy Theo connection perhaps Breslow was the target all along. Questions start to form on Blooms effectiveness and Kennedy went for it early rather than miss out on possibly the next great CBO? I'm easily excited but after reading Gammons, Henry and Breslow's statement I'm ready to run through a wall. It's an exciting hire if nothing else.
This is not far off at all actually.
 

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Breslow is kind of setup to be a hero. Had Eovaldi been resigned and Efflin signed the Red Sox are probably a playoff team. Two starters and the rotation looks like

Starter A
Starter B
Bello
Crawford
Sale/Pivetta

I don't think fixing the rotation is actually that hard. There are other things to figure out - namely the outfield/DH and maybe second base, but really
 

JM3

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Not a criticism *at all*, but this is one thing about the recent Toboni/Pearson drafts. As others have noted, we spend almost all of the domestic draft capital on position players. For good reason!

But we’re increasingly finding affordable pitching in IFA, which is much harder for fans to follow and evaluate. So e.g. Bello kind of came out of nowhere for most fans, even those who know exactly who a domestic prospect like Kyle Teel or Roman Anthony is. These Caribbean pitchers come stateside at 18 or 19 after typically signing at 16, the market mechanisms that determine their bonuses are, umm, opaque (and occasionally literally criminal), and few observers know anything about them until they pop up in the FCL and post some publicly available stats, which even then we don’t have any context to interpret.

I suspect/hope that this means that we on the outside have been underestimating the efficacy of our pitching development for a minute: that some of these guys like Monegro and Perales, who are just now showing promising things at promising ages in full-season ball, will pop out of nowhere (like Bello did) in their early 20s. Of course it won’t be out of nowhere, really; it will just have been off our radar.
If y'all want many a word on the state of our DSL pitching prospects, the Minor League Forum is your oyster lol

But here are a couple of things:

This is much less striated than the hitters...there are a lot of guys who are just similarly interesting to me.

Most Interesting DSL Pitchers
15) Daury Pena (Blue): 9 IP, 1.00 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 30.8% k/9, 12.8 bb/hbp (#179, turns 19 in October)
14) Daniel Nunez (Red): 32.1 IP, 2.78 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 31.4% k's, 18.6% bb/hbp (#181, turns 21 next April)
13) Ruben De La Cruz (Blue): 24.2 IP, 3.65 ERA, 1.34 WHIP, 27.7% k's, 10.7% bb/hbp (#180, turns 19 next January)
12) Ricardo Rodriguez (Blue): 34.2 IP, 4.14 ERA, 1.44 WHIP, 20.8% k's, 20.8% bb/hbp (#123, turns 18 in December)
11) Luis Jerez (Red): 33.2 IP, 3.21 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 23.1% k's, 9.7% bb/hbp (#164, turns 20 on Saturday)
10) Juan Henriquez (Red): 42.1 IP, 4.68 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 24.7% k's, 13.5% bb/hbp (#84, turns 18 next June)
9) Alisson Del Orbe (Blue): 29.1 IP, 1.23 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 37.6% k's, 14.5% bb/hbp (#124, turns 22 in September)
8) Nicolas De La Cruz (Blue): 33.1 IP, 3.51 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 16.2% k's, 16.2% bb/hbp (#89, turns 18 in November)
7) Deybi Salcedo (Red): 13.1 IP, 1.35 ERA, 0.53 WHIP, 39.6% k's, 8.3% bb/hbp (#213, turns 20 next July)
6) Wuilliams Rodriguez (Red): 36 IP, 2.75 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 19.0% k's, 7.5% bb/hbp (#55, turns 18 in November)
5) Obed Balderas (Blue): 39 IP, 2.54 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, 15.5% k's, 7.5% bb/hbp (#75, turns 18 next July)
4) Andres Jimenez (Red): 24.1 IP, 2.22 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 29.0% k's, 15.0% bb/hbp (#219, turns 19 next January)
3) Jesus Garcia (Blue): 43.2 IP, 3.30 ERA, 1.28 WHIP, 20.2% k's, 9.0% bb/hbp (#61, turns 18 in November)
2) Jose Martinez (Blue): 25 IP, 1.80 ERA, 0.88 WHIP, 29.2% k's, 4.2% bb/hbp (#108, turns 18 in January)
1) Gilberto Batista (Red): 40.2 IP, 3.54 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 33.5% k's, 6.2% bb/hbp (#110, turns 19 in January)

Obviously my Jimenez, Salcedo, Martinez & Batista rankings need updating, & some of the others need tweaking...like overrating WUILLIAMS because of his hot start to the season & cool name.
After writing way too many words & thoughts, these were my projections about which DSL pitchers would be promoted/stay/get released:

So that leaves the following projections:

Promoted to FCL:
Gilberto Batista (#48)
Jose Martinez (#58)
Jesus Garcia (#64)
Andres Jimenez (#70)
Wuilliams Rodriguez (#71)
Nicolas De La Cruz (#92)
Deybi Salcedo (#103)
Alisson Del Orbe (#106)
Luis Jerez (#122)
Ruben De La Cruz (#154)
Ali Ascanio (#206)

Stay in DSL:
Obed Balderas (#76)
Juan Henriquez (#99)
Ricardo Rodriguez (#124)
Geiser Figueroa (#162)
Daury Pena (#172)
Argeny Sanchez (#188)
Juan Valera (#213)
Yeferson Vargas (#214)
Ovis Portes (#217)
Brahian Rijo (#222)

Released:
Daniel Nunez (#165)
Cristofer Soriano (#199)
Jean Carlos Reyes (#210)
Breilin Arredondo (#219)
Enrique Carta (#229)
Marcos Almanzar (#234)
Yoelvin Chirino (#235)
Oscar Sanchez (#242)
Denison Sanchez (#246)
Emmanuel Polo (#251)
Aaron Liranzo (#257)
Hanssel De Los Santos (#258)

Last year they did 14-10-12, so tried to stay somewhat consistent with that, even if it differed with my above comments.

This is 11-10-12, but they promoted DDLC & Ruiz toward the end of last year, so I think they would count toward that. If they wanted to promote one more, I will guess Ovis Portes, & if they want to keep one more from the cut list, I'll guess Yoelvin Chirino.
& these are my Top 258 prospect rankings which include every prospect or quasi-prospect in the org (I think), including all the DSL guys. Will spoiler cuz long.

Updated rankings. Mostly to get the DSL Rankings sharper before the inevitable cuts next month. Hard to know what to do with Bonaci based on the lack of information, so kind of split the baby. Feel free to AMA.

Rank Player Position Birthday Age Level Prev Rank SoxProspects Rule 5
1​
Marcelo Mayer SS
12/12/02​
20​
AA
1​
1​
2026​
2​
Roman Anthony LF
5/13/04​
19​
AA
2​
2​
2027​
3​
Kyle Teel C
2/15/02​
21​
AA
3​
5​
2027​
4​
Miguel Bleis RF
3/1/04​
19​
A
4​
3​
2026​
5​
Ceddanne Rafaela CF
9/18/00​
23​
MLB
5​
4​
N/A
6​
Luis Perales SP
4/14/03​
20​
A+
6​
7​
2024​
7​
Yordanny Monegro SP
10/14/02​
21​
A
7​
25​
2025​
8​
Yoeilin Cespedes SS
9/8/05​
18​
DSL
8​
10​
2028​
9​
Wikelman Gonzalez SP
3/25/02​
21​
AA
9​
8​
2024​
10​
Wilyer Abreu LF
6/24/99​
24​
MLB
10​
12​
N/A
11​
Nick Yorke 2B
4/2/02​
21​
AA
11​
6​
2025​
12​
Johanfran Garcia C
12/8/04​
18​
A
12​
14​
2027​
13​
Mikey Romero 2B
1/12/04​
19​
A+
14​
18​
2026​
14​
Nazzan Zanetello SS
5/25/05​
18​
A
15​
9​
2028​
15​
Luis Guerrero RP
8/5/00​
23​
AAA
16​
29​
2025​
16​
Blaze Jordan 1B
12/19/02​
20​
AA
17​
22​
2025​
17​
Eddinson Paulino 2B
7/2/02​
21​
A+
18​
20​
2024​
18​
Allan Castro LF
5/24/03​
20​
A+
21​
17​
2024​
19​
Enmanuel Valdez 2B
12/28/98​
24​
AAA
19​
21​
N/A
20​
Hunter Dobbins SP
8/30/99​
24​
AA
20​
28​
2025​
21​
Chase Meidroth 3B
7/23/01​
22​
AA
22​
16​
2027​
22​
Shane Drohan SP
1/7/99​
24​
AAA
23​
13​
2024​
23​
Bryan Mata SP
5/3/99​
24​
AAA
25​
27​
N/A
24​
Nathan Hickey C
11/23/99​
23​
AA
24​
19​
2025​
25​
Kristian Campbell RF
6/28/02​
21​
A+
27​
48​
2027​
26​
Angel Bastardo SP
6/18/02​
21​
AA
26​
30​
2024​
27​
Franklin Arias SS
11/19/05​
17​
DSL
29​
43​
2028​
28​
Isaac Coffey SP
6/21/00​
23​
AA
28​
46​
2026​
29​
Antonio Anderson SS
6/28/05​
18​
A
30​
24​
2028​
30​
Elmer Rodriguez-Cruz SP
8/18/03​
20​
A
31​
26​
2026​
31​
Corey Rosier LF
9/7/99​
24​
AAA
34​
44​
2025​
32​
Brainer Bonaci 2B
7/9/02​
21​
AA
13​
12​
2024​
33​
Jedixson Paez SP
1/17/04​
19​
A
35​
41​
2026​
34​
Brooks Brannon C
5/4/04​
19​
A
32​
34​
2027​
35​
Grant Gambrell SP
11/21/97​
25​
AAA
33​
38​
2024​
36​
Alex Hoppe RP
12/17/98​
24​
AA
39​
32​
2026​
37​
Dalton Rogers SP
1/18/01​
22​
A+
38​
36​
2026​
38​
Christopher Troye RP
2/8/99​
24​
AA
36​
39​
2025​
39​
Natanael Yuten CF
10/9/04​
19​
A
40​
42​
2027​
40​
Zach Penrod SP
6/16/97​
26​
A+
54​
49​
2024​
41​
Stephen Scott C
5/23/97​
26​
AAA
37​
35​
2024​
42​
Ryan Fernandez RP
6/11/98​
25​
AAA
41​
31​
2024​
43​
Cutter Coffey 3B
5/21/04​
19​
A+
42​
37​
2027​
44​
Nick Robertson RP
7/16/98​
25​
MLB
43​
38​
N/A
45​
Starlyn Nunez 2B
10/10/05​
18​
DSL
44​
N/A
2028​
46​
Noah Song SP
5/28/97​
26​
A+
45​
60​
2024​
47​
Marvin Alcantara SS
11/2/04​
18​
A
46​
33​
2027​
48​
Gilberto Batista SP
1/8/05​
18​
DSL
48​
N/A
2027​
49​
Johnfrank Salazar 3B
8/5/03​
20​
A
47​
N/A
2024​
50​
Noah Dean SP
3/10/01​
22​
A
66​
N/A
2026​
51​
Fraymi De Leon SS
9/28/04​
19​
FCL
49​
N/A
2027​
52​
Luis De La Rosa SP
7/6/02​
21​
A
50​
N/A
2024​
53​
Felix Cepeda RP
7/15/00​
23​
A+
51​
54​
2024​
54​
Andruw Musett C
11/21/05​
17​
DSL
53​
N/A
2028​
55​
Justin Riemer SS
2/6/02​
21​
TBD
78​
51​
2027​
56​
Brian Van Belle SP
9/3/96​
27​
AAA
52​
N/A
2024​
57​
Luis Ravelo SS
11/5/03​
19​
A
56​
40​
2026​
58​
Brandon Walter SP
9/8/96​
27​
AAA
55​
15​
N/A
59​
Freili Encarnacion 3B
1/26/05​
18​
FCL
62​
56​
2027​
60​
Matt Duffy SP
10/4/01​
22​
TBD
61​
59​
2027​
61​
Jose Martinez SP
1/7/05​
18​
DSL
58​
N/A
2028​
62​
Wyatt Olds SP
8/5/99​
24​
AA
121​
N/A
2025​
63​
Ronaldo Hernandez C
11/11/97​
25​
AAA
60​
N/A
2024​
64​
Justin Hagenman RP
10/7/96​
27​
AAA
59​
N/A
2024​
65​
Jhostynxon Garcia RF
12/11/02​
20​
A
65​
N/A
2024​
66​
A.J. Politi RP
6/4/96​
27​
AAA
57​
N/A
2024​
67​
David Hamilton 2B
9/29/97​
26​
AAA
63​
23​
N/A
68​
Jesus Garcia SP
11/16/05​
17​
DSL
64​
N/A
2028​
69​
Alexis Hernandez LF
10/5/02​
21​
A
67​
N/A
2024​
70​
Yosander Asencio RF
11/14/04​
18​
DSL
68​
N/A
2027​
71​
Jonathan Brand RP
2/20/00​
23​
A
69​
N/A
2026​
72​
Andres Jimenez SP
1/4/05​
18​
DSL
70​
N/A
2027​
73​
Matthew Lugo 3B
5/9/01​
22​
AA
74​
45​
2024​
74​
Wuilliams Rodriguez SP
11/3/05​
17​
DSL
71​
N/A
2028​
75​
Ryan Zeferjahn RP
2/28/98​
25​
AA
72​
53​
2024​
76​
Niko Kavadas 1B
10/27/98​
24​
AAA
73​
N/A
2025​
77​
Obed Balderas SP
7/19/06​
17​
DSL
76​
N/A
2028​
78​
Enderso Lira C
10/11/03​
20​
A
75​
58​
2026​
79​
Connelly Early SP
4/3/02​
21​
TBD
81​
N/A
2027​
80​
Gerardo Rodriguez C
12/8/05​
17​
DSL
77​
N/A
2028​
81​
C.J. Liu SP
4/7/99​
24​
AA
84​
N/A
2024​
82​
Ronald Rosario C
1/1/03​
20​
A+
79​
N/A
2024​
83​
Albertson Asigen LF
8/27/01​
22​
A
80​
N/A
2025​
84​
Brock Bell RP
3/18/98​
25​
A+
82​
50​
2024​
85​
Phillip Sikes RF
4/27/99​
24​
AA
83​
57​
2025​
86​
Kleyver Salazar C
5/1/06​
17​
DSL
93​
N/A
2028​
87​
Alex Binelas 1B
5/26/00​
23​
AA
85​
N/A
2025​
88​
Tyler McDonough 2B
4/2/99​
24​
AA
86​
47​
2025​
89​
Brendan Cellucci RP
6/30/98​
25​
AA
226​
N/A
2024​
90​
Juan Daniel Encarnacion SP
3/30/01​
22​
A+
87​
N/A
2024​
91​
Eduardo Lopez RF
5/8/02​
21​
A+
88​
N/A
2024​
92​
Jose Ramirez SP
3/28/01​
22​
A
89​
N/A
2024​
93​
Luis Cohen SP
5/26/03​
20​
FCL
90​
N/A
2027​
94​
Nick Sogard 2B
9/9/97​
26​
AAA
98​
52​
2024​
95​
Nicolas De La Cruz RP
11/18/05​
17​
DSL
92​
N/A
2028​
96​
Yoiber Ruiz 2B
11/11/05​
17​
DSL
91​
N/A
2028​
97​
Caleb Bolden RP
12/19/98​
24​
A+
94​
N/A
2026​
98​
Bryan Gonzalez LF
9/18/01​
22​
A+
95​
N/A
2024​
99​
Joe Jacques RP
3/11/95​
28​
AAA
96​
N/A N/A
100​
Stijn Van Der Schaaf SP
3/8/04​
19​
FCL
97​
N/A
2028​
101​
Reidis Sena RP
4/7/01​
22​
A+
102​
55​
2024​
102​
Juan Henriquez SP
6/29/06​
17​
DSL
99​
N/A
2028​
103​
Oddanier Mosqueda RP
5/6/99​
24​
AAA
100​
N/A
2024​
104​
Elvis Soto SP
3/2/04​
19​
A
101​
N/A
2027​
105​
Max Carlson SP
3/1/01​
22​
TBD
107​
N/A
2027​
106​
Deybi Salcedo RP
7/5/04​
19​
DSL
103​
N/A
2028​
107​
Gilberto Jimenez LF
7/8/00​
23​
A+
104​
N/A
2024​
108​
Christian Koss 3B
1/27/98​
25​
AAA
105​
N/A
2024​
109​
Alisson Del Orbe RP
9/6/01​
22​
DSL
106​
N/A
2024​
110​
Andy Lugo LF
3/15/04​
19​
FCL
128​
N/A
2026​
111​
Jacob Webb RP
3/23/99​
24​
AA
108​
N/A
2025​
112​
Juan Chacon LF
12/4/02​
20​
A
109​
N/A
2024​
113​
Frank German RP
9/22/97​
26​
AAA
110​
N/A
2024​
114​
Tyler Miller 1B
12/17/99​
23​
A+
112​
N/A
2025​
115​
Railin Perez RP
4/29/02​
21​
A
113​
N/A
2024​
116​
Lyonell James 3B
10/14/02​
21​
A
115​
N/A
2024​
117​
Hayden Mullins RP
9/14/00​
23​
A
136​
N/A
2026​
118​
Caden Rose CF
10/7/01​
22​
TBD
126​
N/A
2027​
119​
Willian Colmenares SP
2/3/05​
18​
FCL
127​
N/A
2027​
120​
Gabriel Jackson RP
9/7/01​
22​
A+
116​
N/A
2024​
121​
Alex Erro C
6/11/98​
25​
AA
117​
N/A
2024​
122​
Taylor Broadway RP
4/8/97​
26​
AA
119​
N/A
2025​
123​
Francis Hernandez RP
9/4/01​
22​
FCL
118​
N/A
2025​
124​
Nelly Taylor CF
1/22/03​
20​
TBD
133​
N/A
2027​
125​
Luis Jerez SP
8/26/03​
20​
DSL
122​
N/A
2027​
126​
Victor Santos RP
7/12/00​
23​
AAA
145​
N/A
127​
Nixson Cueche SS
3/6/06​
17​
DSL
123​
N/A
2028​
128​
Chansol Lee SP
7/24/05​
18​
TBD
129​
N/A
2028​
129​
Ricardo Rodriguez SP
12/23/05​
17​
DSL
124​
N/A
2028​
130​
Jeremy Wu-Yelland RP
6/24/99​
24​
A+
125​
N/A
2024​
131​
Theo Denlinger RP
7/10/96​
27​
AAA
114​
N/A
2025​
132​
Stanley Tucker CF
4/22/02​
21​
A
120​
N/A
2027​
133​
Cristian Nunez SP
10/22/02​
20​
A
134​
N/A
2026​
134​
Yorberto Mejicano C
11/21/00​
22​
A
130​
N/A
2024​
135​
Ryan Fitzgerald UT
6/17/94​
29​
AAA
131​
N/A
2024​
136​
Darlyn De La Cruz RP
11/26/02​
20​
FCL
132​
N/A
2027​
137​
Diego Hernandez SP
8/12/04​
19​
DSL
144​
N/A
2027​
138​
Brendan Nail RP
10/18/95​
28​
AAA
111​
N/A
2024​
139​
Cristofher Paniagua RF
11/8/04​
18​
DSL
135​
N/A
2027​
140​
Armando Sierra 1B
1/17/04​
19​
FCL
150​
N/A
2026​
141​
Cade Feeney SP
7/31/01​
22​
TBD
171​
N/A
2027​
142​
Kelvin Diaz CF
10/3/02​
21​
FCL
148​
N/A
2024​
143​
Tyler Uberstine SP
6/1/99​
24​
A+
142​
N/A
2025​
144​
Albert Feliz 1B
4/13/02​
21​
A
139​
N/A
2024​
145​
Blake Wehunt SP
11/9/00​
22​
TBD
164​
N/A
2027​
146​
Angel Pierre 2B
9/19/03​
20​
FCL
137​
N/A
2027​
147​
Trennor O'Donnell SP
6/6/01​
22​
TBD
167​
N/A
2027​
148​
Karim Ayubi LF
12/8/03​
19​
FCL
140​
N/A
2026​
149​
Nathan Landry RP
5/4/99​
24​
A+
168​
N/A
2026​
150​
Max Ferguson 2B
8/23/99​
24​
A+
141​
N/A
2025​
151​
Ahbram Liendo 2B
2/1/04​
19​
A
146​
N/A
2026​
152​
Garrett Ramsey RP
10/29/99​
23​
A
153​
N/A
2026​
153​
Moises Semerite RF
5/31/06​
17​
DSL
192​
N/A
2028​
154​
CJ Weins RP
8/15/00​
23​
TBD
151​
N/A
2027​
155​
Luis Talavera RP
2/6/02​
21​
A
147​
N/A
2024​
156​
Frederik Jimenez C
11/15/04​
18​
DSL
152​
N/A
2028​
157​
Dylan Spacke RP
3/11/98​
25​
AA
149​
N/A
2024​
158​
Nathanael Cruz RP
2/4/03​
20​
A
157​
N/A
2024​
159​
Jancel Santana 3B
8/17/05​
18​
DSL
138​
N/A
2027​
160​
Ruben De La Cruz RP
1/14/05​
18​
DSL
154​
N/A
2027​
161​
JoJo Ingrassia RP
7/24/02​
21​
TBD
182​
N/A
2027​
162​
Deundre Jones LF
12/12/03​
19​
FCL
155​
N/A
2027​
163​
Yizreel Burnet SP
1/15/04​
19​
FCL
156​
N/A
2026​
164​
Connor Butler RP
4/22/00​
23​
A
169​
N/A
2026​
165​
Geiser Figueroa SP
3/24/06​
17​
DSL
162​
N/A
2028​
166​
Elih Marrero C
6/21/97​
26​
AA
158​
N/A
2024​
167​
Cam Booser RP
5/4/92​
31​
AAA
160​
N/A
2024​
168​
Raimundo De Los Santos LF
2/27/05​
18​
DSL
161​
N/A
2028​
169​
Isaac Stebens RP
12/5/01​
21​
TBD
184​
N/A
2027​
170​
Eybersson Polanco SP
9/3/03​
20​
FCL
173​
N/A
2026​
171​
Zach Fogell RP
7/23/00​
23​
TBD
178​
N/A
2027​
172​
Bryant Zayas SS
10/25/03​
19​
FCL
163​
N/A
2027​
173​
Skylar Arias RP
6/30/97​
26​
AA
166​
N/A
2024​
174​
Ryan Ammons RP
4/17/01​
22​
TBD
174​
N/A
2027​
175​
Alvaro Mejias SP
9/13/03​
20​
FCL
186​
N/A
2026​
176​
Nick Decker LF
10/2/99​
24​
A+
170​
N/A
2024​
177​
Daury Pena RP
10/18/04​
19​
DSL
172​
N/A
2028​
178​
Rio Gomez SP
10/20/94​
29​
AAA
159​
N/A
2024​
179​
Ali Ascanio RP
11/18/03​
19​
DSL
206​
N/A
2027​
180​
Karson Simas 2B
6/2/01​
22​
A+
176​
N/A
2024​
181​
Yonfi Rodriguez RP
7/30/02​
21​
FCL
177​
N/A
2026​
182​
Jesus Prado LF
10/22/05​
17​
DSL
179​
N/A
2028​
183​
Michael Gettys RP
10/22/95​
27​
AA
180​
N/A
2024​
184​
Franyer Noria SS
9/24/04​
19​
DSL
193​
N/A
2027​
185​
Miguel Ugueto LF
9/3/02​
21​
A+
183​
N/A
2024​
186​
Ovis Portes RP
12/3/04​
18​
DSL
217​
N/A
2027​
187​
Narciso Crook LF
7/12/95​
28​
AAA
175​
N/A
2024​
188​
Simon Pacheco RP
6/14/02​
21​
FCL
200​
N/A
2025​
189​
Juan Montero C
6/10/02​
21​
A
181​
N/A
2024​
190​
Wandy Abreu SP
6/8/02​
21​
FCL
185​
N/A
2027​
191​
Cody Scroggins RP
8/17/96​
27​
AA
208​
N/A
2024​
192​
Tyler Dearden LF
7/6/98​
25​
AA
187​
N/A
2024​
193​
Argeny Sanchez SP
9/17/05​
18​
DSL
188​
N/A
2028​
194​
Royman Blanco RP
4/17/01​
22​
FCL
189​
N/A
2024​
195​
Nathanael German 2B
11/4/05​
17​
DSL
143​
N/A
2028​
196​
Austin Ehrlicher RP
6/2/03​
20​
FCL
191​
N/A
2027​
197​
Claudio Simon 2B
12/9/01​
21​
A
204​
N/A
2026​
198​
Cesar Ruiz RP
6/4/03​
20​
FCL
194​
N/A
2024​
199​
Drew Ehrhard 2B
1/16/99​
24​
A+
197​
N/A
2027​
200​
Enmanuel Martinez C
5/24/04​
19​
FCL
195​
N/A
2027​
201​
Maceo Campbell RP
6/17/99​
24​
A+
203​
N/A
2024​
202​
Juan Valera RP
5/18/06​
17​
DSL
213​
N/A
2028​
203​
Merlin Bido RP
2/27/06​
17​
DSL N/A N/A
2028​
204​
Daniel McElveny C
4/21/03​
20​
A
201​
N/A
2026​
205​
Brahian Rijo RP
8/22/06​
17​
DSL
222​
N/A
2028​
206​
Jhoan Solarte LF
7/4/06​
17​
DSL
202​
N/A
2028​
207​
Yeferson Vargas RP
8/4/04​
19​
DSL
214​
N/A
2028​
208​
Alex Castillo LF
9/8/05​
18​
DSL
225​
N/A
2028​
209​
Denis Reguillo RP
9/9/03​
20​
FCL
218​
N/A
2027​
210​
Jaret Godman RP
5/7/00​
23​
A+
216​
N/A
2026​
211​
Smil Guzman SP
4/4/04​
19​
FCL
207​
N/A
2027​
212​
Claudio Evangelista LF
11/19/05​
17​
DSL
232​
N/A
2028​
213​
Robert Kwiatkowski RP
6/8/97​
26​
A+
237​
N/A
2024​
214​
Cristofer Soriano RP
11/23/02​
20​
DSL
199​
N/A
2026​
215​
Matt Donlan C
11/9/99​
23​
A+
209​
N/A
2026​
216​
Jean Carlos Reyes RP
12/17/03​
19​
DSL
210​
N/A
2026​
217​
Luis Arredondo 3B
3/6/06​
17​
DSL
211​
N/A
2028​
218​
Sterling Sharp SP
5/30/95​
28​
AA
212​
N/A
2024​
219​
Yohander Linarez 2B
3/19/05​
18​
DSL
205​
N/A
2027​
220​
Albert Chalas CF
9/30/05​
18​
DSL
196​
N/A
2028​
221​
Jose Liriano 1B
6/26/03​
20​
DSL
215​
N/A
2027​
222​
Breilin Arredondo RP
7/10/05​
18​
DSL
219​
N/A
2028​
223​
Gabriel Mavarez 2B
3/15/06​
17​
DSL
198​
N/A
2028​
224​
Jordan DiValerio RP
10/9/97​
26​
A+
220​
N/A
2024​
225​
Diego Vilorio C
2/23/03​
20​
FCL
221​
N/A
2024​
226​
Ryan Miller RP
3/28/96​
27​
AA
230​
N/A
2024​
227​
Tyler Esplin LF
7/6/99​
24​
AA
223​
N/A
2024​
228​
Liosward Marin C
5/15/06​
17​
DSL
224​
N/A
2028​
229​
Justin Barry OF/RP?
8/9/06​
17​
DSL
240​
N/A
2028​
230​
Casey Cobb RP
6/27/96​
27​
A+
245​
N/A
2024​
231​
Rivaldo Avila C
9/11/02​
21​
FCL
227​
N/A
2024​
232​
Chase Shugart RP
10/24/96​
26​
AAA
228​
N/A
2024​
233​
Enrique Carta RP
12/23/03​
19​
DSL
229​
N/A
2028​
234​
William Reynoso RP
8/16/05​
18​
DSL
244​
N/A
2028​
235​
Jorge Rodriguez RP
8/25/00​
23​
A+
231​
N/A
2024​
236​
Greider Colina RP
4/24/05​
18​
DSL
247​
N/A
2028​
237​
Chad Delancey LF
7/12/06​
17​
DSL
233​
N/A
2028​
238​
Marcos Almanzar RP
3/14/06​
17​
DSL
234​
N/A
2028​
239​
Yoelvin Chirino RP
5/13/05​
18​
DSL
235​
N/A
2028​
240​
Zach Bryant RP
6/5/98​
25​
AA
236​
N/A
2024​
241​
Yermain Ruiz RP
11/27/05​
17​
DSL N/A N/A
2028​
242​
Natanael Eusebio LF
7/2/05​
18​
DSL
238​
N/A
2026​
243​
Michael Valera RP
2/12/99​
24​
A
239​
N/A
2024​
244​
Jogly Garcia RP
2/23/03​
20​
FCL
241​
N/A
2026​
245​
Tyreque Reed 1B
6/6/97​
26​
AA
252​
N/A
2024​
246​
Oscar Sanchez RP
6/26/03​
20​
DSL
242​
N/A
2028​
247​
Joey Stock RP
9/8/97​
26​
A+
243​
N/A
2024​
248​
Denison Sanchez RP
8/30/05​
18​
DSL
246​
N/A
2027​
249​
Yusniel Padron-Artiles SP
11/12/97​
25​
AA
248​
N/A
2024​
250​
Yodrian Beltre RP
10/20/05​
18​
DSL
249​
N/A
2028​
251​
Dominic LoBrutto RP
5/31/96​
27​
AA
250​
N/A
2024​
252​
Emmanuel Polo RP
8/26/01​
22​
DSL
251​
N/A
2027​
253​
Oscar Rangel C
5/27/98​
25​
AAA
253​
N/A
2024​
254​
Nate Tellier RP
6/5/98​
25​
A+
254​
N/A
2024​
255​
Aaron Perry RP
6/7/99​
24​
A+
255​
N/A
2024​
256​
Anger Romero C
3/16/05​
18​
DSL
256​
N/A
2027​
257​
Aaron Liranzo RP
2/16/04​
19​
DSL
257​
N/A
2027​
258​
Hanssel De Los Santos RP
9/19/04​
19​
DSL
258​
N/A
2028​
 

Sin Duda

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 16, 2005
846
(B)Austin Texas
Some of it's scope, some of it's situational, but I think it points a couple outcomes of concern.

I'm assuming he's going to deal with stuff he's never fully dealt with before or been the final decision-maker on. While he's doing that, he's also essentially going to have to learn the org structure and vet it, while at the same time mining it for good information. This sets up an org inertia problem. And we don't really know the extent of his power to reshape things - is he bringing in new hires (and does he have the contacts for that?), can he clean house, or was part of the deal to (insert fruity voice) "work with our existing world-class team, blah blah blah."

So, for example in the short term, at the ML club level it wouldn't shock me if he's slow to grab FAs this offseason, or is somehow not well calibrated re: offers (too much or too little). And in terms of competitiveness in 2024, that probably matters not only for the FAs, but in the greater scheme of acquiring pieces or trading them.

He's probably better suited (at this point) to evaluating pitchers instead of field players. So I'm more optimistic re: pitching, but for position players. . .well, the org has had a mixed bag recently, both in terms of talent and medical predictions. (For example, Story - all the indications were that they expected him to come back and hit in the second half.) Does the org have targets? Is Kennedy or someone else pushing a vision on Breslow? And if so, what is it?

I'm also concerned about the GM/Field Staff mesh. I've posted generally on the hitting. It sucks. Almost no one gets better. Which is a top-down thing. Is that something Breslow has the authority to fix? The same re: the defense. Are they maybe going to kind of sort of try something new in Spring Training? Or is there a plan? And if there is, can it be implemented? Or will Breslow tread lightly with an inherited manager?

Conversely, I'm less concerned with the Draft. The Sox have been doing very well lately. I assume it wasn't Bloom alone who was involved.

At the MiL level - again, how much power does he have? Is he going to bring people on, or teach (somewhat resistant coaches?) "the Breslow Way"? And regardless, how long will that take to work?


Overall, I think the worst scenario simply that he's given a honeymoon year, treads lightly, and "real results" are expected in 2025. Meanwhile, nothing really gets fixed. I couldn't say that would be a squander of a season, but I do think the club has the talent depth to compete with some reshaping (e.g., intelligently trading out of that depth.) To the extent that 2024 sets a bad pattern, we might not really see "Breslow's vision" until 2025. And then, hey, it's a first year so let's go to 2026 for the year we're really getting serious about competing.
Or, he treats it like the best (non-playing) job he's ever had and attacks the first 30/60/90 days as any top executive would at a new company, and he's bold and decisive because he wants his bosses to believe they made the right choice.
 

JM3

often quoted
SoSH Member
Dec 14, 2019
15,260
Here's some more info from Jon Daniels on why he turned down an opportunity to interview...

“I was burnt out last year. It’s easy to recognize and admit that, and I knew I needed to take a step back,” he said. “I really just enjoyed being at home. I work remote, probably travel a week a month or so, and just to boil it down I’m happy right now.

“I’m happy at home. I’ve got two teenagers and a daughter that’s 11, about to be 12 here. My wife’s been a single mom for the first 16 years of their lives, their whole lives basically,” he continued. “I enjoyed being around. I enjoyed being a part of it and taking some pressure off of Robyn and just being part of the family again, honestly.”
https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/red-sox/jon-daniels-reveals-why-he-declined-boston-red-sox-interview?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 

chrisfont9

Member
SoSH Member
Breslow is kind of setup to be a hero. Had Eovaldi been resigned and Efflin signed the Red Sox are probably a playoff team. Two starters and the rotation looks like

Starter A
Starter B
Bello
Crawford
Sale/Pivetta

I don't think fixing the rotation is actually that hard. There are other things to figure out - namely the outfield/DH and maybe second base, but really
A playoff team?! Just flipping 11 games? You realize Eovaldi was hurt from mid July to early September — same as Sale, Whitlock and Houck?