Deadspin defectors debut

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I subscribed, today. Treating it like a magazine subscription. Roth's writing is spectacular. I like Magary and some of the other Deadspin crew. Reading sports takes has to be better for me than following politics.

And I feel like supporting people who bring me some joy. Became a Patreon member of a favorite podcast and gonna scrounge to get the online edition of my local paper.

Glad to hear they're doing alright, so far. Written content has to be better than most of The Ringer.
 

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In the context of trolling a VC bro they published some site stats -

Defector.com said:
Today is the 100th day since the launch of Defector.....
  • Defector has over 34,000 paying subscribers.
  • 10,000 page views a day? Defector had over 366,000 page views just yesterday. We do that all the time. It’s no big thing for us.
  • I do not feel like counting up how many posts Defector has done
They've been rolling recently - Ratto still killing it, the Williams-Sonoma hater's guide is always fun and the Letters to Santa post was just crushing
 

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Part of Ratto on the Hall of Fame

It has always been the unofficial position of this squalid little corner of the internet that the Hall of Fame should be first and foremost a museum of the history of the game, all of its credits and debits placed in an orderly fashion for the absorption of the masses. It mostly is that for people who visit, but around this time every year all that is superseded by its exclusive bronze annex, a rural version of the Prado where there are paintings from Antonio Maria Esquivel of the Santa Isabel de Hungria dressed as a Cleveland Spider that you can pose before for selfies. But since nobody wants to agree on what the Hall ought to be between those two options, let’s ignore the argument entirely and give everyone what they actually want—hardcore farce. Snarky, mean-spirited, hate-fueled comedy straight from Cerberus’s doghouse.

If the character clause matters, throw out everyone but Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Henry Aaron, Willie Mays, and Bill Veeck (there are others of course, but I can’t type these names all goddamn day). If it doesn’t matter, give us dull, fuming Curt Schilling through a decisive vote of the men and women he so detests, sending him into the place he so desperately wants to be. Let the plaque read in part, “He was inducted in 2022 with 79.7 percent of the vote by the very same fucking writers he once offered to kill like the roaches they are, the misery-caked weaklings.”
 

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Magary is already trotting out a BOSTON FANS SUCK AND SHOULD EAT SHIT column? I figured he would ease his way into it at the Defector, but here we are!

I really want to know what specifically happened to him at college because the intensity and stability of his resentment and hatred is uncommon.
 

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Magary is a lifelong Vikings fan who openly rooted for the Packers in the NFC Championship. Brady lives rent-free in his head.
 

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Magary is already trotting out a BOSTON FANS SUCK AND SHOULD EAT SHIT column? I figured he would ease his way into it at the Defector, but here we are!

I really want to know what specifically happened to him at college because the intensity and stability of his resentment and hatred is uncommon.
He did write a column essentially admitting that his hatred of Tom Brady is stupid and futile and that it's time for him (Magary) to give it up.
 

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It's a business, and the hate-on-Boston business will be good for at least another decade.
 

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Oh, for sure, but I do think Magary has the talent to not indulge in it. Maybe he doesn’t want to or cannot help himself.
I've long held that it's shtick. I think he feels a responsibility to the other folks on Defector (like he did with Deadspin) to put up click-bait for the good of the site because he's probably the #1 draw. He's a bright guy and writes about other topics with a thoughtful distance; I find it impossible that he's genuinely that upset about sports anymore (except maybe when it comes to his own teams).
 

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I Ieally want to know what specifically happened to him at college because the intensity and stability of his resentment and hatred is uncommon.
I think it was attending Exeter that turned him off to "Boston."

Edited because I forgot he was at Colby for a year. So maybe that was a really bad year.
 

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Even stranger, it wasn't college - it was attending Exeter that turned him off to "Boston."
Well, in fairness, it turned him off to Boston fans (and Boston by association). And he didn't hate it so much that he didn't go to Colby.

And I can absolutely see a sensitive, smart, kid from Minnesota who doesn't know anybody at a fairly conservative prep school like Exeter feeling alienated and resenting the more local people who dominate the social scene (not to mention the whole uniformed prep school culture, which is very New England) even if it's somewhat misdirected. I think he's even gone on record saying he wasn't ready to be there and reacted poorly. That said, it would hardly be surprising that some rich preppy kids from the Boston suburbs may have been assholes to the chubby rube from Minnesota.
 

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I think when Magary goes after “Boston”, he’s really going after some combination of elitism and prejudice. (avatars: Simmons and Barstool, respectively). It’s stuff he hates, conveniently personified by a city. And I can’t fault him for hating those traits, though he does paint with a very broad brush.
 

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Well, in fairness, it turned him off to Boston fans (and Boston by association). And he didn't hate it so much that he didn't go to Colby.

And I can absolutely see a sensitive, smart, kid from Minnesota who doesn't know anybody at a fairly conservative prep school like Exeter feeling alienated and resenting the more local people who dominate the social scene (not to mention the whole uniformed prep school culture, which is very New England) even if it's somewhat misdirected. I think he's even gone on record saying he wasn't ready to be there and reacted poorly. That said, it would hardly be surprising that some rich preppy kids from the Boston suburbs may have been assholes to the chubby rube from Minnesota.
This sounds like a dark, alternate version of 90210.
 

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Oh, for sure, but I do think Magary has the talent to not indulge in it. Maybe he doesn’t want to or cannot help himself.
I think the reality is that Magary is no different than Shank, just a slightly different mix of effort and talent. He's not as good a writer as Shank when they are both trying hard, but he works a bit harder to change up his moves (which certainly matters!) At the end of the day, though, he's generally using his abilities to generate hate-clicks and shitstir rather than really analyze or inform. I get that some people like the snarky attitude and to each their own...but what I read from some is a lot of dissonance from people who somehow like the act when Magary is doing it and hate it when Shank is doing it. Truth is, it's the same act just done slightly differently.
 

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I think the reality is that Magary is no different than Shank, just a slightly different mix of effort and talent. He's not as good a writer as Shank when they are both trying hard, but he works a bit harder to change up his moves (which certainly matters!) At the end of the day, though, he's generally using his abilities to generate hate-clicks and shitstir rather than really analyze or inform. I get that some people like the snarky attitude and to each their own...but what I read from some is a lot of dissonance from people who somehow like the act when Magary is doing it and hate it when Shank is doing it. Truth is, it's the same act just done slightly differently.
I think when it comes to his I-Hate-Boston pieces, that's true, but he does a lot of writing about other topics, from pop culture (Kid Rock cruise, Duck Dynasty) to politics (lots of stuff on living in Trump's America), not to mention a handful of novels, that at this point are really his bread-and-butter much moreso than his by-the-numbers clickbait. Most of his sports writing is essentially him putting on the mantle of Big Daddy Drew from the Kissing Suzy Kolber days, which is the writing equivalent of a band playing it's biggest hit from a decade ago during the encores. It's an essential part of what he is, but it no longer defines him.

EDIT: that said, I wish he'd stop, because it is the worst writing he does and it's been tiresome for at least 5 years. And he's not a dumb guy, and he seems pretty self-aware, which is why I assume he's doing it basically as a favor, or a sort of "one for them, one for me" type of thing.
 
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