Not that it should change your stance or your opinion of his comments but the guy is a HoFer. It's not like they asked Mark Bulger for his comments.m0ckduck said:
#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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One of the 2 ball-handling employees is still employed by Kraft. Working Revs games.
I can say no more.
I can say no more.
Yeah, I have a wishful feeling that we may see more digital city Simmons now that he's cut loose and we have more understanding of just how compromised ESPN actually is. Fingers crossed.crystalline said:
He was at least shopping for an iWatch around April 24th, which is around the right timeframe. His explanation seems to hold up to me. He replaced his broken Galaxy and shortly thereafter decided that we wanted to switch to Apple.nighthob said:
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/4/24/8494331/tom-brady-apple-watch-photo-perfect-teeth-amazing-skin
Papelbon's Poutine said:
Plus he lost 4 Super Bowls, in a row! I do like Kelly and he's been strong through what he's been through. Has anyone seen Mark Brunell lately? Is he still crying?
Not too upset with Kelly as he is likely as uninformed as most people on this case. Likely relying on his info from sources like ESPN or the NFL Network. Most of those on the periphery are like him as well.
I disagree. Wells did indeed follow this lead but hit a dead end. The lead was The Colts, but the fact that "They could not identify a specific source for this information or reference particular conversations" kind of left him with nowhere to go.jablo1312 said:
With everything we've seen from Wells, you don't think he would have pursued other examples of the Patriots deflating footballs if he could?
Only point was that he's not a "one time somebody". If you want to chalk his comments up to jealousy, knock yourself out. You probably have some ground there.NortheasternPJ said:
I mean, Goodell mostly has an uninterrupted streak of defeats when it's anyone other than him making the decision. It's rather remarkable actually.
Cold Hard Football Facts chimes in. You won't be shocked to hear his POV: http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/roger-goodells-fatal-mistake-tom-brady-an-innocent-man/33948/
RedOctober3829 said:
No shit. Now they're tripping over their dicks to start a controversy between Brady and Manning.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tom-brady-peyton-manning-insult-deflategate-nfl-080515
See if you can figure out the problem with what they're saying in this article. I'll give you two hints:
1. It's not a subtle mistake
2. It's even worse than stupid exaggeration like this:
They don't care. Berman may take a baseball bat to them, and they will just move on. RG is playing with house money with two draft picks tucked securely in his back pocket. He has cover fire from Pravda (ESPN). If the chickens ever come home on this one, RG will likely be in secure retirement.
We are in mitigation mode.
We are in mitigation mode.
Hendu for Kutch said:
This is such a dumb mistake, it's hilarious. Do they actually believe Brady would sign off an e-mail with "go TB"? Also, the "shot" at Peyton is an admission that Brady's e-mails were as boring as they could get. Really, that's the best controversy you could manufacture? Saying Manning has two years left is almost a vote of confidence from Brady at this point, it sure wouldn't surprise me if Peyton were to hang it up after 2015.
Bingo. Have no problem with Kelly or his opinion, rather that ESPN chose him as the guy whose opinion they ran.DrewDawg said:
Yep.dcmissle said:
Little off legal topic part follows:
Unless some intrepid media members decides to hound the NFL throughout the coming year about making the football PSI measuring going on next year transparent and independent, and then the results show what every1 expects, the Pats might have enough of a media storm to get those back.
about the time that is happening I'll be happily retired, sitting on a beach ala the end of trading places sipping on a Mai tai and wondering at my luck at having won the Powerball and mega millions jackpots 4 times in a row each.
Those have about the same odds of happening.
A lot of those email/text comments are innocent jabs at players, teams and critics but isn't that type of stuff (among other more personal items) Brady would rather not let get out? Search criteria be damned, but there is no reason for the Peyton comments ever to make it in a report and on to Deadspin. It justifies an action (destroying the phone) that really needed no justification.
uncannymanny said:
From that article:
"If somebody is dogging you, you do whatever you can to clear your name. When you don't clear it, you start having doubts. National media and the national public are just abusing you and saying all these negative things."
My god. Brady has categorically denied, both publicly and under oath, ever having anything remotely to do with illegal tampering of footballs. He has appealed. And now he's taking it to court. What else is he supposed to do, Mr. Kelly?
Turn over his phone, give a blood sample, DNA test, and first born (non Moynahan) to the league.
"National media and the national public are just abusing you and saying all these negative things [, and I figured I should throw out some criticism based on nothing too]."
This is why it matters whether people think the Pats are cheaters. Because when everyone already thinks that, its easy for Goodell to slap some draft pick penalties and suspensions on the Pats with some flimsy explanation. Which everyone is predisposed to believe.dcmissle said:
The only way that story changes is if Berman blows his top and blisters Goodell in his ruling, calling him a liar as he vacates all penalties, forbids Goodell from ever serving as an arbitrator, and requires that every other investigation going forward is a joint venture between the PA and NFL. Barring that, Brady and the Pats are worse off than they started.
The Pats should have been fighting the "cheaters" label from day one in the press. You can't ignore attacks like that- eventually they hurt you.
Edit: so what I'm saying is: Brady and the Pats will be worse off than when they started.
He implies that Peyton has two years left, and he's going to play another 7 or 8. Hardly earth shattering, but no less a jab at an opposing rival.
Am I supposed to take this differently?
Am I supposed to take this differently?
When you include the fact that Peyton Manning has, like, a broken fucking neck? Yeah, it's not much of a jab.GregHarris said:
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
And it was a question if Peyton would even come back for the 2015 season, let alone 2016.
You're missing the point, a reasonable person would have insisted that the Colts provide backup for their accusation, and ask them how, exactly, McNally managed to tamper with the balls in Indianapolis. But he didn't do any follow up at all. I imagine that part of the exchange went something like this...djbayko said:
Wells: Why did you guys make the report to the NFL?
Sullivan: It's well known around the league that the Patriots tamper with the balls.
Wells: Who else can I talk to?
Sullivan: Well, there has to be someone.
Wells: Did anyone ever give you details?
Sullivan: I'm sure someone must have.
Wells: Have you ever noticed something similar before?
Sullivan: Sure, back at our game in November.
Wells: What was the weather like in Boston that day?
Sullivan: I don't think it was particularly cold at that game, and the balls were definitely deflated.
Wells: OK, I think that's a wrap.
GregHarris said:
OK, I'll admit I thought you were referring to the second email, which would be an actual jab if Brady had actually written it. So while you're not guilty of misreading, I think you're guilty of reading too much into it.
The guy is old and has already flirted with retirement. I don't think it's a jab in any way to expect him to retire in the next couple of years.
Yeah except for the fact that fused disks don't exactly equal a broken neck, nor does the surgery increase its risking of breaking. I didn't say it was a roundhouse folks, just a friendly jab considering Brady's oft talk about health and longevity.
The greater point being that Brady probably prefers emails like that not to go public.
The greater point being that Brady probably prefers emails like that not to go public.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
If anyone would take it personally, you know it's thin-skinned Manning. He's totally gonna put some extra zip into those 15 yard ducks to prove Brady wrong while Anderson and his 4.6 ypc dawdles in the backfield.
No, I get that point.nighthob said:
Sorry, I assumed you were talking about Wells following the Patriots lead further. The Wells report being skewed against the Patriots is a given for me by now
We know that. We were making fun of just how shoddy the investigation was if the goal was to get at the truth of what happened that day. Of course if the purpose of the investigation was to justify the actions Ted Healy and his Three Stooges then it all makes sense.Stu Nahan said:
Yes, I admitted that I misunderstood the comment. What more are you looking for?nighthob said:
GregHarris said:
It's also an email to his Dad that I'm sure he assumed would never be seen outside of that circle. It was completely harmless. If there was ever a time for a shot at Peyton it would have been replying to the "beav", instead Brady was classic Patriot "we are hard working grinders"
I can only imagine what say Richard Sherman's personal emails or better yet John Harbaugh's emails contain.
I enjoy the double-speak. "I don't think he's a cheater, I just think he cheated. But I love the guy." In other words, "I think you cheated, but please make sure to invite me to your next wedding."ivanvamp said:
Ok, bro. Then you have SAS throwing his arms up in support of the comments. It was fantastic. Bayless is actually on point. He plays a character, but underneath it, Skip is a smart guy, unlike his counterpart.
I noted that too. Makes me want to check out that TB12 facility at Patriot Place. Maybe they can help my hamstring issues.j44thor said:
crystalline said:
In your mind, how close does the part in the transcript where he basically says he concluded which gauge was used based on the one it needed be for his results to work out right come to being proof?
There is no Rev said:
I'm particularly fond of the part in the report where they said that if the non logo gauge was used then the pre-game temperature had to be 67 degrees because otherwise the colts balls didn't have enough time to get back to the "observed" PSI.