#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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Wow...surprised that BB didn't just go with the usual "I can't comment during an NFL investment" non-answer. Maybe he realizes that the winds are finally blowing in his direction, allowing him to be a bit more agressive in push-back.
At this point, the best result all around is for the NFL to announce publicly that no decision on punishment will be made until the offseason, then quietly leak to Mort, Schefter at all that there was no smoking gun.
At this point, the best result all around is for the NFL to announce publicly that no decision on punishment will be made until the offseason, then quietly leak to Mort, Schefter at all that there was no smoking gun.
"I've said in the past that I like the ball softer, so we inflate at the 12.5 limit. The refs check the balls before the game and that's what we use. Monday was the first time I'd heard that they'd tested lower. That's all I know."jsinger121 said:
I don't know where he got it from but one of the local radio guys in Tampa is very well connected, has both Florio and Chris Landry weekly on his show. When I got in my car last night he said the PSI of the balls in question was only 1/2 pound below the regulated window. Said the whole thing is BS. Has anyone else heard anything about the balls only bring a half pound under? If that is the case I'm thinking they could easily lose a half pound over the course of a half in that weather, especially if the Pats inflate to 12.5.bsj said:
Edit: there is so much rumored info leaked out, plenty that is contradictory that the NFL needs to get their head out of their asses and get out in front of this. What a bunch of morons. Goodell makes Selig look like he handles tough situations well in the heat of the moment (cough All Star Game cough).
Mooch said:
As far as I'm aware there's no burden of proof for NFL actions against teams or coaches for football related activities.
EDIT: Brady's going to say zero about air pressure. He's just going to say he works with the ballboy (poor Murph, who is now the a the deflated ball fall guy) gets them scuffed just right, picks the 12 balls that feel right, and good old Murph takes care of the rest. Sure he likes them on the loose side but he had no idea the balls were below any limit and neither did the refs who handle them every play.
The league also has regulations on other equipment, but I can't see BB caring about that, either. The BB as control-freak mastermind has been taken to comic-book levels. I think he knows everything he can about the game, the team the Patriots are playing, and the players. Footballs? I believe him when he says he didn't know and didn't really care.bankshot1 said:
I think he went too far. It has to be 12.5 at the inspection, its not on the teams to ensure and account for possible pressure drop for the next 5-6 hours?
I think the NFL will change the policy so the officials recheck the balls at halftime and get them to 12.5 if they fall under. But if you're QB likes the balls under, then submit at 12.5 and let nature take over on a cold day.
Anyway I thought that was an odd concession, so I suspect this has already been discussed with the NFL and this new inflation plan by BB is something the NFL is going to expect from all teams. Look for this dialogue to be part of the NFL's press conference.
I think the NFL will change the policy so the officials recheck the balls at halftime and get them to 12.5 if they fall under. But if you're QB likes the balls under, then submit at 12.5 and let nature take over on a cold day.
Anyway I thought that was an odd concession, so I suspect this has already been discussed with the NFL and this new inflation plan by BB is something the NFL is going to expect from all teams. Look for this dialogue to be part of the NFL's press conference.
If BB or TB are lying, how much could Murph the ballboy get selling his story to the National Enquirer?
Looks like Murph's in line for a promotion to Vice President of Sideline Operations and a six-figure salary.
Looks like Murph's in line for a promotion to Vice President of Sideline Operations and a six-figure salary.
Shelterdog said:
One of the reasons Payton and Williams got slammed so hard on Bountygate IMO was that they could not appeal their suspensions, unlike players.
WTF???!!! Now they aren't DEflating them enough? This team can't get anything right!Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:
My perspective was that of a critic, and how they would attack BB's response given what they/we've learned about BB. ie. no detail goes unchecked/left to chance.Scriblerus said:
I believe Bill confirmed my saying that he would have no knowledge of how much PSI the balls have. But, all the idiots on Twitter and idiots like Mazz kept saying: "BILL KNOWS EVERYTHING NOTHING GOES ON WITHOUT BB KNOWING!!!!".
Of course he doesn't give two shits about what the balls are.
Of course he doesn't give two shits about what the balls are.
"What [Belichick is saying] is consistent with what's been heard from various people inside and outside the organization." - @AdamSchefter
LeoCarrillo said:
The Krafts are too smart to do that.
Murph gets his six figure salary working for a major Rand-Whitney business partner.
It wouldn't shock me that TB12 will take the fall and the fine for it to protect BB to avoid further sanctions.
Right, F&M already made that argument yesterday. Its a stupid argument, but it will be their/others argument.bankshot1 said:
If the argument is one of responsibility (the buck stops here) that is one thing; if the argument is that he actually knew just because he knows everything, that is silly.
Anyone saying BB threw Brady under the bus has as much credibility as unnamed sources hearing suspensions and loss of picks.
tim hasselbeck @tthasselbeck 29s30 seconds ago
1 more time people. HC never part of process. EVER. It's QB & equipment staff...as it should be.
1 more time people. HC never part of process. EVER. It's QB & equipment staff...as it should be.
Corsi said:
It just doesn't matter. No one cares. They want blood will never believe Belichick didn't know/authorize this.
EDIT: Hasseback too. BB could be defended by everyone who ever played in the league and it won't make an iota of difference. The toothpaste is already out of the tube, folks.
Sounds like we might be through the worst of it if guys like Mort and Schefter are making comments without a pitchfork in sight.
PaulinMyrBch said:
What the fuck is the team supposed to do? Hire a sideline physicist to calculate what the pressure will be at halftime, based on latest weather reports from the team-hired meteorologist, to best pressurize each ball to be exactly at the right pressure and hope the refs don't give 'em a squeeze and let some air out?
I mean, Christ. It's important to remember that, from a playing perspective, this is about as a material an issue as having the grass be 1/16 inch higher than usual.
Soxfan in Fla said:
There has been nothing other than a leak to Mort or Peter King that the balls were "two pounds under". so the question is, "under what"? Under the 13.5 max? Was it really 1.5 lbs and the leaker just rounded up? So mabe they deflated to 12, not 10 as many have posited? Too many unknowns here.
But Bill going on the offensive lends credibility to the assertions that the NFL has nothing solid against the Pats. Especially coming right out and basically blaming it on balls falling under the min spec, implying normal game wear.
The Brady script has been set. If he says anything it will be, we submit the balls at 12.5 and I don't know how balls get under. I was a General Studies major at Michigan, not Engineering, so I don't know the deal with temperature and pressure stuff. But we're going to submit, like coach said, at higher levels to account for change during the game.
I could see Brady saying something like
"Ive always told the equipment guys i like my footballs soft. I never got into numbers, never said below a league required minimum. Always just assumed, since they were checked, they were in the ok range..."
EDIT- Hoya, looks like we are in the same idea...
"Ive always told the equipment guys i like my footballs soft. I never got into numbers, never said below a league required minimum. Always just assumed, since they were checked, they were in the ok range..."
EDIT- Hoya, looks like we are in the same idea...
Chris Mortensen @mortreport · 19s 19 seconds ago
As silly as it sounds (spoke about it yesterday), the guys who handle footballs most - quarterbacks - have made this an issue for years.
As silly as it sounds (spoke about it yesterday), the guys who handle footballs most - quarterbacks - have made this an issue for years.
Section15Box113 said:
ivanvamp said:
This. A thousand times this. This whole thing stinks of a set up. How does a linebacker, who rarely ever touches the ball, after intercepting Tom Brady in the AFCCG and in the process momentarily saving his team from a massacre of epic proportions, think to himself after said interception "Gee, this ball is underinflated. Better tell my coach."?!? None of this makes any sense other than it was a set up. If the refs, who handle every ball every snap, did not notice it being deflated, how does a linebacker notice the ball is slightly deflated?
