2-seed? We had two legitimate threats to a 16-0 regular season.....took care of one today and watched the Broncos fall apart with Manning looking like he's ready for pasture. You cannot be serious!!! /McEnroeHoly crap. Nip, delete your f'n post - the absurd replies taking you serious are cluttering this place up. As for Edelman, put me in the "reasonably happy" camp given the possible outcomes. 6-7 weeks off equals like 3-4 concussed hits he won't add to his count... Get the 2-seed, get Edelman back for playoffs, I like team's chances.
Agreed but would have been a great storyPats don't get an extra spot anyway, so Welker was never coming back. It's up to Dobson/Martin.
That's absolutely what Welker is thinking right now, too.Welker signed a week too early
He could always follow the Blount playbook and get his ass cut. Of course, I don't think he would be asked back to Foxboro in any event.That's absolutely what Welker is thinking right now, too.
BB sure doesn't.Wait, people seriously would want Welker back?
I don't know about anyone else, but I was jokingWait, people seriously would want Welker back?
Ok, I've had a snookerfull...hard to tell!I don't know about anyone else, but I was joking
If he could still play, why wouldn't you?Wait, people seriously would want Welker back?
It's been a few years now, maybe Joey Galloway or Ocho have finally picked it up.I'm pretty sure there's nobody out there outside of the practice squad who's going to be able to master the offense quickly enough to be of any use.
Hart Lee Dykes, it's finally time to shine!I hear Stanley Morgan is available
White was invisible today.There's no need for another wideout at this point.
The player that needs to step up is Scott Chandler.
Might as well sign someone from Morgan StanleyI hear Stanley Morgan is available
If he has huge hands like Gronk does, I don't know why he doesn't hold onto the ball better. Get him some stickum.There's no need for another wideout at this point.
The player that needs to step up is Scott Chandler.
The juxtaposition between him and gronk today...I think it was 1 or 2 plays after a chandler drop, gronk picked one off his shoe laces while running and hung onto it.If he has huge hands like Gronk does, I don't know why he doesn't hold onto the ball better. Get him some stickum.
No Boyson? For shame.Yeah, the only people who could step up and make a difference are already on this team, and are named (in no particular order) Chandler, Dobkins, White, and Martin
Dobkins hasn't done anythingYeah, the only people who could step up and make a difference are already on this team, and are named (in no particular order) Chandler, Dobkins, White, and Martin
EDIT: Yeah, I suppose Bolden too
Yeah, I guess all 6'6 guys with huge hands are not created equal.The juxtaposition between him and gronk today...I think it was 1 or 2 plays after a chandler drop, gronk picked one off his shoe laces while running and hung onto it.
That's weird, I also researched and found that Tommy John surgery and Lou Gehrig's disease were also named after people that had it or was involved with its discovery. Do you think there was someone named Hodgkin as well? Crazy world....Some info I found and researched about the Jones fracture, though DRS should (will?) correct me, as I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on SoSH.
It was named after Sir Robert Jones, who sustained the injury while dancing, and first reported in the Annals of Surgery in 1902, in his paper, I. Fracture of the Base of the Fifth Metatarsal Bone by Indirect Violence. As it turns out, it's a fracture caused by a cross-strain applied to the bone, as opposed to direct trauma. This is what a Jones fracture looks like on an x-ray: http://i.imgur.com/1QhTsN2.jpg.
Did he make it back for the playoffs?It was named after Sir Robert Jones, who sustained the injury while dancing, and first reported in the Annals of Surgery in 1902, in his paper, I. Fracture of the Base of the Fifth Metatarsal Bone by Indirect Violence.
Meh. I thought it'd be interesting to include a brief history of it all. If it's not your thing, my apologies. Hopefully the rest of the content is worth your (or anyone's) while though, especially the NFL player study, which is the most relevant thing I feel I added to this thread.That's weird, I also researched and found that Tommy John surgery and Lou Gehrig's disease were also named after people that had it or was involved with its discovery. Do you think there was someone named Hodgkin as well? Crazy world....
Sure did! His dance partner was Ellis Hobbs.Did he make it back for the playoffs?
I'm going to save @absintheofmalaise the post and remind everyone that quoting Chao is unacceptable on this board. He is the Incarcerated Bob of injuries. He is worse than a unreliable source and anyone wondering why should Google "Chao NFLPA lost license". He's a goddamned hack and you make yourself and everyone around you stupider by listening to anything the drunk driving "doctor" has anything to say.@ProFootballDoc: .@MattyLitchh Don't like being negative, but worst case is Jones fracture. Surgery and try to come back for playoffs. Hopefully much less.
@ProFootballDoc: Hopefully EDELMAN @Patriots with boot/crutches only mild sprain & not more.
Video not conclusive for major injury, but often isn't for foot.
Why should we believe you? You couldn't even diagnose it correctly.Oh fuck. If it's a Jones he's got a good chance to be back for the playoffs, if it's a Lisfranc fracture... See you in 2016
Hey, I didn't go to offshore medical school for almost two years just so I could have my credentials questioned by people like you
Some info I found and researched about the Jones fracture, though DRS should (will?) correct me, as I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on SoSH.
It was named after Sir Robert Jones, who sustained the injury while dancing, and first reported in the Annals of Surgery in 1902, in his paper, I. Fracture of the Base of the Fifth Metatarsal Bone by Indirect Violence. As it turns out, it's a fracture caused by a cross-strain applied to the bone, as opposed to direct trauma. This is what a Jones fracture looks like on an x-ray: http://i.imgur.com/1QhTsN2.jpg
Do have to ask though, out of curiosity, and wanting to learn more: Is the zone (1, 2, 3) known by anyone or sources here for purposes of (non) union? This is an important factor, for both healing, and potential future complications.
Also found a few former notable athletes who have had this before:
Kevin Durant, injury sustained 10/12/14, came back 12/2/14. Injured again 2/22/15 for minor surgery to help with ones fracture pain. Was declared out for season 3/27/15.
Yao Ming, but hard to compare the two, based on mass and size.
Julio Jones, in Atlanta's 5th game of the year. Missed the rest of the season, only started walking again in November that year, didn't start working out until February 2014. In June 2014, he claimed that he felt stronger, as to make sure his strengths were equal in all places.
Marvin Jones; had surgery with screw insert, though Jones also was in recovery from a broken ankle. Went on IR, but likely rushed back from the broken ankle, so this really isn't apples-to-apples either.
And then, there's this awesome study I found: Lareau, Hsu, and Anderson (2008): Return to Play in National Football League Players After Operative Jones Fracture Treatment. Positional breadown: 8 WRs, 4 LBs, 4 TEs, 2 DTs, 2 CBs, 1 OT, 1 C, 1 DE, on QB.
Average return was 8-10 weeks. Noted 25 consecutive NFL players went under acute Jones fracture fixation by a single surgeon (Lareau), between 2004 and 2014. The treatment consisted of a "Jones-specific intramedullary screw and iliac crest bone marrow aspirate with demineralized bone matrix injected at the fracture site."
76% of players were in first 3 seasons; 48% before/during rookie year. 100% players returned to play; 80% were still playing when published, while 12% (three patients) re-fractured and needed a revision. Of the nine players to undergo surgery between July and October were eligible to play the same season, with an average of 8.7 weeks, with a range of 5.9-13.6. Things honestly look good, based upon what I read.
Here's a link to the abstract: http://fai.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/09/09/1071100715603983.abstract
Not that information is ever a bad thing, but when we have not only a board-certified orthopaedic surgeon active in this thread, but one whose subspecialty is sports medicine, is there really a reason to start dumping in research from Google University?Wow, DLJ Jr, just the research I wold have done if I weren't a lazy-ass couch-sitting blob.
Thank you for your time!
Yes, there is in my opinion. The post gave a bunch of interesting examples of other athletes who had the surgery and also spoke to long term outcomes. I love DRS as much as the next guy but he doesn't need to have some kind of total monopoly on medical commentary around here.Not that information is ever a bad thing, but when we have not only a board-certified orthopaedic surgeon active in this thread, but one whose subspecialty is sports medicine, is there really a reason to start dumping in research from Google University?
Jeez...lighten up. 99% of her post was a mildly interesting sidebar to something (a "jones fracture") that most of us probably never heard of 12 hours ago. I didn't see much, if anything, that stepped on DRS's toes.Not that information is ever a bad thing, but when we have not only a board-certified orthopaedic surgeon active in this thread, but one whose subspecialty is sports medicine, is there really a reason to start dumping in research from Google University?
Exactly.Jeez...lighten up. 99% of his post was a mildly interesting sidebar to something (a "jones fracture") that most of us probably never heard of 12 hours ago. I didn't see much, if anything, that stepped on DRS's toes.
Yes. DRS does not have the time to do much more than make jokes about where he went to medical school and give his opinion based on broadcast tape.Not that information is ever a bad thing, but when we have not only a board-certified orthopaedic surgeon active in this thread, but one whose subspecialty is sports medicine, is there really a reason to start dumping in research from Google University?
I don't think anyone is. Our game at Denver looks better now, and as noted, we arguably should be favorites every week, allowing for a couple of sketchy road games to wind up the season.Why are you conceding the 1 seed? I still have every bit of confidence the Pats win out, and at the very least finish up with a better record than cincy. That sleeping beauty I going to turn back into a pumpkin any week now.
This is extremely good news for SoSH. Do you accept chickens as well?Hey, I didn't go to offshore medical school for almost two years just so I could have my credentials questioned by people like you