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Leaving in a bit to the studio :)
So, “Max Kellerman” is trending......


View: https://twitter.com/FirstTake/status/1299025604478742529?s=20
 
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So, “Max Kellerman” is trending......


View: https://twitter.com/FirstTake/status/1299025604478742529?s=20
Good for him. He is 100% right.
 

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So, “Max Kellerman” is trending......


View: https://twitter.com/FirstTake/status/1299025604478742529?s=20
Finally, a take of his I can agree with. First time I've been on his train since he hosted Around the Horn.
 

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I feel old. I rememberl seeing him on Manhattan public access cable like 30-35 years ago. "Max On Boxing" or something like that....
Fun fact and I didn't think of it until looking at his wiki, but Max was a contributor to Tucker Carlson's MSNBC show 2005-2008. In those days I think I dismissed Carlson as an Alex P. Keaton conservative type, rather than a racist and fascist who gives voice to the ultra-right. Yikes.
 

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So, “Max Kellerman” is trending......


View: https://twitter.com/FirstTake/status/1299025604478742529?s=20
I avoid the RNC and yet I read the comments. I'm a freaking moron.
 

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Wow, his delivery is like a Brooklyn Eminem. And 1994 was when Em's underground career was really starting up. So did Max bite Eminem, or did Eminem bite Max?
In a different universe, Max is Slim Shady and Marshall is waxing on about Kronk’s as he oversees the ruination of HBO’s proud boxing legacy.
 

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I was surprised to see High school football, live, on ESPN last night. From Alabama, I think. Fans didn’t appear to be distanced, I didn’t watch long enough to see if there were masks or not on the sidelines and stands . Just didn’t seem like a good idea to play or to present this to the country
 

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I was surprised to see High school football, live, on ESPN last night. From Alabama, I think. Fans didn’t appear to be distanced, I didn’t watch long enough to see if there were masks or not on the sidelines and stands . Just didn’t seem like a good idea to play or to present this to the country
I'm not surprised in the least that Alabama is playing high school football, nor surprised that there were fans at all and there was no distancing.

I'm only mildly surprised that ESPN would air it though. They're somewhat desperate for fresh live content, as is every network that carries sports, and it's not as though they haven't been exploiting airing high school sports more often in the last few years.
 

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Am I the only one that finds Doris Burke insufferable during these playoffs? I mean, it's not going to ruin any game for me, but (a) she never shuts up and (b) there's an enormous amount of, "Do you know there's a game going on?" running through my brain while watching. Things like...wouldn't it be nice to know who that foul was called on...or, could we have a little less talking about who had what for lunch and a little more serious analysis?

I know a lot of the problem is ESPN's habit (in all sports) of thinking they're making the game more interesting by talking about non-game crap and/or minimizing the screen and what's happening on the court to show a half-screen of stuff that could be shown at halftime (specifically interviews). There must be a substantial amount of fans that can't stand this stuff.
 

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I like Doris Burke as a color commentator but she is far from perfect. There is definitely some obnoxious fanboyism of her work on social media, which balances out the obvious cheap shots that she endures by simply being a woman in a male-dominated industry. I'd love it if Mark Jones/Burke or Dave Pasch/Burke were the ESPN No. 1 team and not the clown show they trot out for the biggest games.
 

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Am I the only one that finds Doris Burke insufferable during these playoffs? I mean, it's not going to ruin any game for me, but (a) she never shuts up and (b) there's an enormous amount of, "Do you know there's a game going on?" running through my brain while watching. Things like...wouldn't it be nice to know who that foul was called on...or, could we have a little less talking about who had what for lunch and a little more serious analysis?

I know a lot of the problem is ESPN's habit (in all sports) of thinking they're making the game more interesting by talking about non-game crap and/or minimizing the screen and what's happening on the court to show a half-screen of stuff that could be shown at halftime (specifically interviews). There must be a substantial amount of fans that can't stand this stuff.
I think you will find your are in the minority here. She's a great listen.
 

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Am I the only one that finds Doris Burke insufferable during these playoffs? I mean, it's not going to ruin any game for me, but (a) she never shuts up and (b) there's an enormous amount of, "Do you know there's a game going on?" running through my brain while watching. Things like...wouldn't it be nice to know who that foul was called on...or, could we have a little less talking about who had what for lunch and a little more serious analysis?

I know a lot of the problem is ESPN's habit (in all sports) of thinking they're making the game more interesting by talking about non-game crap and/or minimizing the screen and what's happening on the court to show a half-screen of stuff that could be shown at halftime (specifically interviews). There must be a substantial amount of fans that can't stand this stuff.
I haven't really noticed this with Doris, but I can't miss it every time SVG does a game. It seems like he's always 1-2 possessions behind and I'm listening to the game on a delay. It's very frustrating.
 

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I mentioned it in the game thread, but yesterday during an in game segment on Chadwick Boseman’s death, Doris whitesplained his impact on the white community in a way I found daily awkward and off putting. Basically discussed how white kids wanted to be Black Panther and so forth.
 

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ESPN is going to move pretty much everything behind a paywall according to the NYP.
ESPN plans to move much of its high-profile, feature-type writing and analysis content to ESPN+, The Post has learned.

The change is being made to further boost the direct-to-consumer ESPN+ service. The initiative is in line with Disney’s recent announcement to shift its main focus to direct-to-consumer products.

Sources said that breaking news and investigative pieces will remain outside the paywall on ESPN.com, but writers who focus on insight and analysis will now primarily be available only to ESPN+ subscribers.

For example, if baseball insider Jeff Passan has a feature, it would be on ESPN+, but if he were to break a big signing, it would remain outside the paywall.

I wish them luck in trying to become the next athletic. They will need it as I don’t think many people will pay for this.
 

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I think they have a good shot to make it work (disclaimer: I already subscribe to ESPN+). Disney is really pushing the Disney+/Hulu/ESPN+ bundle, so it's an even lower price for people who already are on the other platforms.
 

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Yes I already have ESPN+ due to my love of having college basketball available in-season basically 24/7 with how many games they carry. But I stopped reading espn.com a long time ago, back when Keith Law was doing condescending monologues and Bill Simmons was dropping his thousandth 90210 reference. This probably won't move the needle a lot on new subscribers. Honestly even for tracking scores on stuff I can't stream, the respective mlb.com, nba.com etc pages do such a better job than ESPN.
 

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Yes I already have ESPN+ due to my love of having college basketball available in-season basically 24/7 with how many games they carry. But I stopped reading espn.com a long time ago, back when Keith Law was doing condescending monologues and Bill Simmons was dropping his thousandth 90210 reference. This probably won't move the needle a lot on new subscribers. Honestly even for tracking scores on stuff I can't stream, the respective mlb.com, nba.com etc pages do such a better job than ESPN.
You figure the money they would make on converted subscribers is far more than what they currently make on the regular ESPN website. From a strategy standpoint, this makes sense. Streaming is working for ESPN, even ESPN+ has almost 8 million subs.

That's not bad for a service that is moderately niche.
 

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Part of the new Disney reorganization is doubling down on getting ESPN to go 100% direct-to-consumer in the foreseeable. Negotiations with the big cable MVPDs and DMVPs for continued ESPN carriage at the license fees ESPN is accustomed to pulling in is getting harder and harder. Still, difficult to see how ESPN can afford to retain any national sports rights without a national cable footprint.
 

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You figure the money they would make on converted subscribers is far more than what they currently make on the regular ESPN website. From a strategy standpoint, this makes sense. Streaming is working for ESPN, even ESPN+ has almost 8 million subs.

That's not bad for a service that is moderately niche.
Good point, overcoming the dwindling ad revenue their website must be taking in shouldn't take doubling their subscriber base or anything. In the 2000s heyday ad income must have been fantastic.