I believe if anything it's the opposite. I think Farrell wanted more roster construction based on analytics and was told no. Not bring up Brentz is still baffling, I hope Farrell ripped DD's head off for that non-move.
Also the Yankees in terms of clutch hitting were either really bad or really unlucky.
Everything we've ever heard about Farrell is that he has worked very closely with the front office, including the analytics guys to implement strategies and coaching philosophies. Check the threads on the saberseminar that he spoke at. This clearly isn't what caused his dismissal.
Toronto on account of the exchange rate.
I noted this in another thread, but anti-JF folks calling for Lovullo -- when a subset of vocal AZ fans are calling for Lovullo's head for leaving SPs in too long and mismanaging the bullpen (particularly Ray over the last week) while getting swept out of the playoffs by LAD -- is high comedy.
Since they didn't add Brentz to the roster, we'll never know. And in general, as between Farrell and Dombrowski, only one has spoken extensively and publicly about his belief and understanding of modern analytics. It isn't Dombrowski.
That's exactly what I said on that point: DD said new guy has to have had on field managerial or coaching experience.
John Henry is DD's boss and he is not unanalytical. And DD has already been told not to trade any more major prospects. JH is running the team.
John Henry wasn't in the room today and DD told him this morning he was firing Farrell.
We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and are just guessing.
He met with Henry yesterday with Werner on the phone. After meeting they notified MLB .
You know that people don't always tell the truth in these sort of situations?
If baseball teams think he's a good manager, he'll get a new job. It's not like chicken and beer and prescription medication abuse limited Tito's options.
It was mentioned during the trade deadline and was why they weren't in on making any big moves. I didn't save it. I'm sure it could be a lie, but I tend to believe it because of how willing he is to trade prospects and that he didn't trade any major ones.
Any support for this beyond your intuition?
The fact that they decided not to move any prospects at the deadline could be an indication that JH has told DD not to trade anymore prospects. Or, it could be that the asking price at the deadline was obscene and that DD, Henry and the entire baseball operations group weren't willing to make any of those deals.
Difference is when Stanton is healthy he's still a proven power threat year in and out. JD is not. Stanton also managed to have a few seasons where he's made over 500 plate appearances JD meanwhile has one. Stanton is also a couple years younger than JD. JD has had 2 30 + homer seasons while Stanton has had 4. Stanton has a slightly higher wRC+ over the last few years 149 vs 148. Both guys just came off great seasons. I would rather gamble on a younger player with bigger power potential. With all the big contracts on this roster there is no real margin for error. The person brought in more or less has to work out. Stanton has the bigger upside and probably a higher floor than JD. The contract with Stanton is scary but JD is going to get something at least on par with the Hanley deal in regards to AAV.
It was a tweet from a Boston reporter around the trade deadline. If you don't want to believe me, don't. That's all I got. I didn't save it and there's no way I'll be able to find it.
The tweet is totally out of context. DD had been asked a different version of the question 100 times and it was getting tiring. His answer to most of them had been along the lines of "we're not getting into a hypothetical."
Seems like standard GM-speak after a firing. Meanwhile, the rest of the Sox management team (Kennedy, Werner, et al) have all publicly expressed their gratitude for Farrell, etc.
I don't think it was like that word for word, but yeah Xander's comment was freaking awful.
Hope you are right here and that this is what we see going forward. But its a throwback to discussions when Dombrowski was brought on board about why they’d hand over the keys to somebody with such a different philosophy and approach. This manager hire will be very enlightening on how these differences in philosophy have been reconciled within the current system.
I answered in the edit of my original post once I saw your response.
The Red Sox don't have the trade chips to land Stanton. He's not a realistic option. Martinez only costs money.
I just answered it. I didn't mean to sound defensive. I'm not. I know that people don't usually believe someone saying something like that.
It seems like the "best" method we have to analyze a managers performance is by W/L compared to expected (pythag) W/L. Which in a way, is kind of silly because you're measuring how well your team did with the runs you scored rather than measuring how many runs you should have scored/prevented with the personnel on the field.
He's probably #1 on my list. I know a lot of mouth pieces want Varitek, but I really think his demeanor and personality are too similar to Farrell's. I love Varitek and what he's meant to this organization but I would be more comfortable handing the manager's job to Cora.
The last sentence in the 2nd link indicates that DD was more than willing to play along with ownership's directive:
If the trade chips include Mookie or Benny or Devers, a deal could get done.
I don't see that at all about Varitek being like Farrell. Tek always sounded like a people guy and guys like Pedro, Millar, Beckett, et al had nothing but the best to say about him as a teammate, analytic guy, etc. Of course, how can we as fans really tell? Farrell always struck me as a no personality guy though.
