Game 6: The Beginning of Philly's End

scottyno

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They don’t have a single play designed to get him an open layup. Do some backdoor cuts or something for fucks sake.

Left a MUCH bigger lead on the table trying to force too much bad shit.
He's missed like 4 open layups
 

Light-Tower-Power

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Tatum better either quickly unfuck himself or hope the supporting cast can drag them to victory because he’s going to get absolutely crucified.
 

DeadlySplitter

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Most likely one team normalizes its shooting, but I'd sign up for a 98-86 win right now, no matter how ugly.
 

Bergs

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Tatum's an MVP candidate and has been complete dogshit offensively. And any time people have the audacity to complain about it in a game thread, there's a few posters that can't deal with it and lash out like it's insane to bitch about the fact we have an MVP candidate that has been complete dogshit offensively.

It's weird.
 

djbayko

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Mark Jones was saying the other day that Tatum is lifting before games, and wraps up 30 mins before tip off. Yeah maybe he should chill with that
I'd like to understand more about that. Is this right before the game, or "before" as in earlier? Because they have to work out sometime. I'd bet a lot of NBA players work out at some point before the game and then nourish themselves before tip off.
 

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I’m okay with a 7 point lead at the half. Tatum will find his shooting groove in the 2nd half. I really hope the Celtics push the ball up the floor with a sense of urgency for each and every possession when Embiid is on the floor.
 

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Tatum's an MVP candidate and has been complete dogshit offensively. And any time people have the audacity to complain about it in a game thread, there's a few posters that can't deal with it and lash out like it's insane to bitch about the fact we have an MVP candidate that has been complete dogshit offensively.

It's weird.
Because if he's not the guy and he can't elevate this team to a championship it's tough to reconcile so people lash out.
 

Auger34

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Tatum's an MVP candidate and has been complete dogshit offensively. And any time people have the audacity to complain about it in a game thread, there's a few posters that can't deal with it and lash out like it's insane to bitch about the fact we have an MVP candidate that has been complete dogshit offensively.

It's weird.
…..welcome to the team
 

Jed Zeppelin

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He's missed like 4 open layups
Yeah all him driving from 30 feet out navigating around multiple defenders, fending off contact, and expecting Embiid at the rim or praying for a whistle. Maybe just once try getting him the ball in space close to the hoop? If Harden can get open enough to fucking dunk I think we can figure out a way to do it for our guy in the prime of his life.
 

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Yeah all him driving from 30 feet out navigating around multiple defenders, fending off contact, and expecting Embiid at the rim or praying for a whistle. Maybe just once try getting him the ball in space close to the hoop? If Harden can get open enough to fucking dunk I think we can figure out a way to do it for our guy in the prime of his life.
Nah, he’s gotten the same looks he gets every game. Just hasn’t hit them. They shouldn’t change their offensive approach because of that.
 

Auger34

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Yeah all him driving from 30 feet out navigating around multiple defenders, fending off contact, and expecting Embiid at the rim or praying for a whistle. Maybe just once try getting him the ball in space close to the hoop? If Harden can get open enough to fucking dunk I think we can figure out a way to do it for our guy in the prime of his life.
I love you man and I enjoy your posts but…that’s not true. The layups he’s missed have been relatively uncontested.
 

MannyRam

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I'd like to understand more about that. Is this right before the game, or "before" as in earlier? Because they have to work out sometime. I'd bet a lot of NBA players work out at some point before the game and then nourish themselves before tip off.
Yeah maybe. But there's off days like yesterday. I'd think getting shots up might be more useful. But also what the hell do I know
 

CoffeeNerdness

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How bad what was? Tatum is shooting awful but he’s still a big part of this team having a lead at the half.
Really fucking bad. Don't know what to tell you besides that. His first half blocks aren't carrying them to a win. So yay he could have been much worse?
 

JakeRae

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Tatum's an MVP candidate and has been complete dogshit offensively. And any time people have the audacity to complain about it in a game thread, there's a few posters that can't deal with it and lash out like it's insane to bitch about the fact we have an MVP candidate that has been complete dogshit offensively.

It's weird.
People can complain about his shooting struggles. Calling for his head is different and completely disconnected from the totality of his contribution on the floor. That he needs to shoot better doesn’t mean he is hurting the team or needs to be benched. Life isn’t binary.
 

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I guess you can spin it either way - they should be up 20, or it’s impressive that they have a 7-point lead having gotten nothing from JT.
 

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I think Tatum has ARod like sports psychology issues on offense. I mean that in a serious way, not snidely. Hopefully he can overcome this, but there really has to be a mental element to this.
 

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If they don’t win tonight this will be an excruciating summer for him.
It’ll be an excruciating season. If he performs in the 2024 playoffs, it’ll stop. If he doesn’t…well, it’ll also stop because expectations will have changed.
 

MannyRam

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I’m okay with a 7 point lead at the half. Tatum will find his shooting groove in the 2nd half. I really hope the Celtics push the ball up the floor with a sense of urgency for each and every possession when Embiid is on the floor.
They're playing the way they should. I'm sure the 2nd half will bring some adversity, but win or lose - keep playing this way
 

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I guess you can spin it either way - they should be up 20, or it’s impressive that they have a 7-point lead having gotten nothing from JT.
Pretty much every single NBA game these days one team goes up 10-15 and then the other team pulls it back. It’s really, really hard to build a big lead and keep it, especially when you build the big lead early.
 

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Pretty much every single NBA game these days one team goes up 10-15 and then the other team pulls it back. It’s really, really hard to build a big lead and keep it, especially when you build the big lead early.
…especially when you have Jayson Tatum taking shots
 

Bergs

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People can complain about his shooting struggles. Calling for his head is different and completely disconnected from the totality of his contribution on the floor. That he needs to shoot better doesn’t mean he is hurting the team or needs to be benched. Life isn’t binary.
If your MVP candidate is a +1 at halftime in an elimination game, he's hurting the team relative to what he should be doing.

That isn't binary.

...or IS IT?????
 

Auger34

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Tatum’s defense has been good (not great) and I love the blocks and rebounds….but he’s 0-10. I mean, that’s not good for any player. If we are grading him on the Tatum 4th in MVP voting curve, that’s fucking awful.
 

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I also don't want to see Tatum with some sort of sarcastic, childish celebration when he makes his first hoop.

Just get the fuck back on defense
 

TripleOT

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Embiid and Harden 6-19 for 18 points, including 6 FTs and no made shots deeper than eight feet
 

8slim

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Pretty much every single NBA game these days one team goes up 10-15 and then the other team pulls it back. It’s really, really hard to build a big lead and keep it, especially when you build the big lead early.
Yup. Hence the cliche about not needing to watch a game until the last few minutes.