General Offseason Thread.

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Is Eric Gordon a taxpayer midlevel guy at this point in his career? Curious what he gets in this market. I could see him going to a contender for fewer dollars
 

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Tobias is a FA after next year but yeah I get the gist.
My bad, you're right, Tobias only has one more season left at $39.3MM

Just stumbled across this random NBA overpaid list. Harris comes in at #11.

Old friend Gordon Hayward at #10 (for anyone still upset they didn't re-sign him)
Fournier at #17, which was a nice miss by Brad, he spoiled rather quickly after leaving Boston.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/most-overpaid-players-nba-2022-23-towns-gobert-westbrook-simmons/
 

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And there it is folks. Harry Giles greatest contribution to the NBA....having an injury rule named after him. Some stories write themselves.
 

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Kyrie for Harden sounds like a thing that should be a thing.
 

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Woj: The Clippers and Knicks are expected to be among the teams that'll engage with the Sixers on a potential James Harden trade, sources tell ESPN.

View: https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1674522507552882688

Now that he's opted in, James Harden can be traded by the 76ers in this league year. It'd take a minimum of about $26M or so in matching salary for a team to get him, using the current (for about one more day) trade rules. Once the league year flips, matching gets a bit harder.
 

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Woj: The Clippers and Knicks are expected to be among the teams that'll engage with the Sixers on a potential James Harden trade, sources tell ESPN.

View: https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1674522507552882688

Now that he's opted in, James Harden can be traded by the 76ers in this league year. It'd take a minimum of about $26M or so in matching salary for a team to get him, using the current (for about one more day) trade rules. Once the league year flips, matching gets a bit harder.
Do the Knicks or Clippers have anything the 76ers would want?
 

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Do the Knicks or Clippers have anything the 76ers would want?
Not much, but so it goes when a guy requests a trade and will only accept a limited number of teams.

Of course, the only guy ever to drag his feet until he got what he wanted was Morey. So we'll see.
 

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I know why and all but I still find it funny that the headline is "BREAKING NEWS: HARDEN OPTS IN TO HIS CONTRACT WITH 76ERS" which means ... he's played his last game with the 76ers.
 

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Do the Knicks or Clippers have anything the 76ers would want?
The Knicks have all of their picks, they could trade a bunch of 1st rounders that might not be valuable to Philly on their face, but Philly could potentially flip them (along with Harris) for a real piece.

I don't know what the Clippers can do here.
 

nattysez

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The return on Harden may determine whether Embiid asks out, so Philly needs to get this right.
 

Cellar-Door

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That's a pretty weak return, even if the math works.
Meh, maybe they throw in a youngster or a pick, but the return is fine considering the alternative was he walks for nothing and you have no money to replace him. Harden likely told PHI he'd only opt-in and let them recoup value if they traded him.
 

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Windhorst was on PTI and said the chance of Kyrie going to Phoenix are low because it would involve a three team sign and trade, which are difficult to pull off.
 

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Hey so Brogdon + Grant works, right?
A true playmaker to get the ball to Tatum, Porzingis, and Jaylen in their sweet spots? Sign me up for one season of this please. I mean, if we are going to go all-in let's go all the fuckin way in for one season and truly go for it!
 

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Have to think that really means Kings thought they had a shot at Draymond, traded a pick to get the space, and now have lost out on him (or someone else at that salary level) right?

They could have signed Barnes to this after whatever other business and kept their pick otherwise.
 

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Have to think that really means Kings thought they had a shot at Draymond, traded a pick to get the space, and now have lost out on him (or someone else at that salary level) right?

They could have signed Barnes to this after whatever other business and kept their pick otherwise.
That's what the Sac sports station thinks - I was listening as this came down. They said reports were that the Kings hadn't spoken to HB at all recently and now suddenly he's re-signed. Suggests another plan didn't work out.
 

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Have to think that really means Kings thought they had a shot at Draymond, traded a pick to get the space, and now have lost out on him (or someone else at that salary level) right?

They could have signed Barnes to this after whatever other business and kept their pick otherwise.
Doing the extension now gives them almost 10M (maybe more depending on 1st year salay) in space over waiting, his cap hold was almost $28M.
 

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I think that all true As the Ball Turns fans are rooting for the Suns to send DeAndre Ayton to the Mavs for Kyrie + whatever and then Booker to the Sixers for Harden + whatever. Because who wouldn't want to see the ensuing chaos of that Four Ring Circus? Especially with the Demon Kyzuzu as The Ringmaster.
 

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Doing the extension now gives them almost 10M (maybe more depending on 1st year salay) in space over waiting, his cap hold was almost $28M.
We'll see what they do; the extension also gives them $18 mil less than renouncing him. And one first-round pick less. So they may have a big swing that explains it all, but I think most likely we'll learn their plan A didn't come through
 

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View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674572247992860672

ESPN story on Harrison Barnes landing a new three-year, $54M extension with the Kings:

Grant scratches a team off his list.
they could get space for him if they really want, but it never really made sense to try an be a space team, they would have to renounce all their free agent holds, and given some of the guys on that list (Monk notably) probably not worth it. They'd be a team that might try to do a S&T, makes more sense