Gold Glove Finalists

RedOctober3829

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deep inside Guido territory
Pitcher
NL-Max Fried, Kyle Hendricks, Alec Mills
AL-Kenta Maeda, Griffin Canning, Zach Plesac

Catcher
AL-Yasmani Grandal, Roberto Perez, James McCann
NL-Jacob Stallings, Wilson Contreras, Tucker Barnhart

1B
AL-Yuli Gurriel, Matt Olson, Evan White
NL-Brandon Belt, Paul Goldschmidt, Anthony Rizzo

2B
AL-Jonathan Schoop, Danny Mendick, Cesar Hernandez
NL-Adam Frazier, Nico Hoerner, Kolten Wong

3B
AL-Isiah Kiner-Falefa, Yoan Moncada, Gio Urshela
NL-Brian Anderson, Nolan Arenado, Manny Machado

SS
AL-Carlos Correa, JP Crawford, Niko Goodrum
NL-Javier Baez, Dansy Swanson, Miguel Rojas

LF
AL-Alex Gordon, Lourdes Gurriel, Kyle Tucker
NL-Shogo Akiyama, Tyler O'Neill, David Peralta

CF
AL-Byron Buxton, Ramon Laureano, Luis Robert
NL-Ronald Acuna, Cody Bellinger, Trent Grisham

RF
AL-Clint Frazier, Joey Gallo, Anthony Santander
NL-Mookie Betts, Jason Heyward, Charlie Blackmon

 

Merkle's Boner

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I know I didn’t pay as much attention this season as normal, but Joey Gallo being a Gold Glove finalist is news to me.
 

Kliq

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I know I didn’t pay as much attention this season as normal, but Joey Gallo being a Gold Glove finalist is news to me.
Yeah, some of those were strange to me. Never knew Jonathan Schoop was known for being a great defensive player. B-Ref has him as above average. He also has a higher career WAR than Ryan Howard.
 

Ale Xander

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Where are the Red Sox? 2 Fraziers and no Red Sox? Fraziers are the new market inefficiency, it appears.



Byron Buxton, Ramon Laureano, Luis Robert

Who are these people and are they really better than JBJ?
 

jon abbey

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Yeah, I noticed that too.

So the reason these nominees are especially strange is that there is no human observation element this year, solely the highest rated guys on the SABR Defensive Index, which is an amalgmation of defensive stats like UZR and DRS and others, as explained at the link below. They will release the full lists after the winners are announced in a couple weeks.


Clint Frazier had a solid season defensively but he might still be NY's 6th or 7th best defensive outfielder from the year-end roster (Judge, Gardner, Tauchman, Hicks was bad this year but would be better than Clint in a corner, Stanton is a perma-DH now but was always good defensively and Wade plays some OF).
 

EvilEmpire

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In a year where observation/reputation actually makes sense given SSS defensive metrics, they only use metrics?

Interesting.
 

Leather

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Where are the Red Sox? 2 Fraziers and no Red Sox? Fraziers are the new market inefficiency, it appears.



Byron Buxton, Ramon Laureano, Luis Robert

Who are these people and are they really better than JBJ?
Well, Byron Buxton won a GG in 2017 and has a 6.6 dWAR (bbref) in just under half the total games that JBJ's accumulated 7.8 dWAR, so you probably should know about him, and yeah he's probably better.
 

terrynever

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Yeah, I noticed that too.

So the reason these nominees are especially strange is that there is no human observation element this year, solely the highest rated guys on the SABR Defensive Index, which is an amalgmation of defensive stats like UZR and DRS and others, as explained at the link below. They will release the full lists after the winners are announced in a couple weeks.


Clint Frazier had a solid season defensively but he might still be NY's 6th or 7th best defensive outfielder from the year-end roster (Judge, Gardner, Tauchman, Hicks was bad this year but would be better than Clint in a corner, Stanton is a perma-DH now but was always good defensively and Wade plays some OF).
Still trying to figure out how Clint Frazier went from defensive liability to GG nominee in two seasons. We know the concussions hurt him last season. Maybe he graded out well in defensive metrics in 2020 because of his speed. He is among the fastest runners going first to home. Does he take good routes in right field? I kept holding my breath when the ball was hit to Clint but by late September I actually trusted him. But a Gold Glove?