How much would you pay to “own” the Red Sox?

budcrew08

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An interesting story here, where the article discusses a fan-owned model, similar to Real Madrid and the Packers. How much would you pay?

Edit from the story: Real Madrid fans pay as little as 150 euros for this possibility.
 
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oumbi

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I would be happy to pay $500 a year. Get another 99,999 people to do the same and that gives you $50,000,000 to work with.
 

E5 Yaz

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If SoSH owned the Red Sox, we'd be so cheap, we'd never sign a free agent ... which would piss us off.
 

snowmanny

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I’d throw in some money.

I’m sad my Celtics stock got bought out. It would be worth a lot more right about now.
 

Ale Xander

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Current Red Sox or a hypothetical Red Sox where the city/state gifts me a taxpayer-funded new stadium?
 

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Current Red Sox or a hypothetical Red Sox where the city/state gifts me a taxpayer-funded new stadium?
While we’re dealing in figments of our imagination that are never going to happen, sure brand new taxpayer funded stadium, retractable roof and everything!
 

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How much would it cost me to block people trying to replace Fenway with some soulless, retractable -roof mallpark presented by Dunkin Brands?
 

jbupstate

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Would be great if they were publicly traded like the Celtics back in the day. It’s always fun to say I was a part owner when Bird played. IMG_5899.jpeg
 

Kenny F'ing Powers

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The first losing season, all the Sally's from southie would stop paying for the next season. You'd need an up front commitment for several years, I'd think.

I think it would be cool that you own as much as you pay in. Someone wants to pay $1M a year, his say is proportionally larger than the guy throwing in $500 a year.
 

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If SoSH owned the Red Sox, we'd be so cheap, we'd never sign a free agent ... which would piss us off.
I don’t know. I’m sure we could find a way to include player options in FA deals in manner that would benefit the team, so we’d be creating some value there.
 

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The first losing season, all the Sally's from southie would stop paying for the next season. You'd need an up front commitment for several years, I'd think.

I think it would be cool that you own as much as you pay in. Someone wants to pay $1M a year, his say is proportionally larger than the guy throwing in $500 a year.
So we'd just have a different rich guy controlling the team?
 

Kenny F'ing Powers

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So we'd just have a different rich guy controlling the team?
I mean, if I had to get more specific with a plan...

Tiered control %'s based on amount invested. There would be a floor and cap limit. It wouldn't need to be proportional to amount spent, but it would incentivize those that could spend more to do so, while limiting the amount one person can control.

Budgeting done before hand with mandatory budget (payroll floor, maintenance costs, salaries, events, etc) and discretionary budget. If you choose to spend over the investing cap amount (or only want to spend to the max of one of the control tiers, with the stipulation that any mandatory budget be filled prior to discretionary budget), you get to choose to which discretionary operational cost that funding goes (additional player salaries, park upgrades, etc).

Something along those lines, I guess.
 

astrozombie

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Assuming that it would follow the Green Bay model, there would be no voting power associated with the shares. Which makes sense; look at this board and the pro/anti-Bloom stance. Are we going to have a vote every time we don't like the GM? Are we going to vote to terminate contracts and then demand that people fund more so that we can make up that payroll? Funding the team does not give individuals a say, it only lets them literally fund the team, show some civic pride and possibly keep the team from moving (not sure about that last point, but it may be written into some of the Packers charter documents). So assuming the GB model, how much would I pay? The last round of Packers shares were $300 I believe. If my kids were older and into the Sox, sure, $300 (or $350 by the time they are older) would be a fun gift. But that would probably be it.
It's a moot point though because it will be a lllllooooooooonnnngggggg time before we ever see another publicly owned sports team in North America. There is just too much money and too many incentives for owners to keep their current situations.
 

loneredseat

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Are we talking about a one time buy in for a partial ownership of the team or a yearly contribution? A yearly contribution I'd want no part of. And a one time contribution I'd think would entitle you to a profit share and/or the right to sell your share at a later date.
 

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Are we talking about a one time buy in for a partial ownership of the team or a yearly contribution? A yearly contribution I'd want no part of. And a one time contribution I'd think would entitle you to a profit share and/or the right to sell your share at a later date.
I called that “Season Tickets” for thirty years or so. But without the say.
 

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We could finally pull off all those brilliant trades where we dump our flotsam for other team’s aces or top prospects.
 

KillerBs

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A more realistic discussion would be about a Red Sox Supporters Union of the sort that tries to keep Henry accountable in respect of Liverpool FC. I would sign up for that pretty quick at 10 or 20$ per year. I expect the Liverpool Union would be happy to advise on getting it off the ground.

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We almost need something like this to make sure the Sawx get their share of the conglomerate's attention and investment.
 

HfxBob

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I'm a follower not a leader when it comes to something like this. But I would absolutely be in if it's in the several hundred a year range.
 

j-man

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if i owned them I Wouild speand most likely on 1 yr deals unless there were top of the fa class payroll wouild be 250 300 mil
1 push for more day games esp on Fridays work with boston schools to get jr high high school students at least 1 game a year
2 let the high schools have a pratice there
3 bring cheerleaders in
4 think about putting games on 98.5 to preempt fegler
5 hire melane newman as play by play
6 also work with make a wish
 

j-man

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if i had the $ wouild bid a billion also wouild try and get astors guys they know how to win plus play well aga the yakees
 

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Assuming that it would follow the Green Bay model, there would be no voting power associated with the shares. Which makes sense; look at this board and the pro/anti-Bloom stance. Are we going to have a vote every time we don't like the GM? Are we going to vote to terminate contracts and then demand that people fund more so that we can make up that payroll? Funding the team does not give individuals a say, it only lets them literally fund the team, show some civic pride and possibly keep the team from moving (not sure about that last point, but it may be written into some of the Packers charter documents). So assuming the GB model, how much would I pay? The last round of Packers shares were $300 I believe. If my kids were older and into the Sox, sure, $300 (or $350 by the time they are older) would be a fun gift. But that would probably be it.
It's a moot point though because it will be a lllllooooooooonnnngggggg time before we ever see another publicly owned sports team in North America. There is just too much money and too many incentives for owners to keep their current situations.
No, with a public stock you vote for board members who best represent your interests.
 

astrozombie

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No, with a public stock you vote for board members who best represent your interests.
Edit: the GB stock is not public. There are Board votes, but functionally, I am not sure how that works. Would be curious to hear from a holder how much this matters
 
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jwbasham84

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As a stock holder you do vote for the board of directors and you can attend shareholders meetings. However that's where it ends. You have basically no control.
 

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I used to have Celtic stock so I'm obviously on board.

Mind you, if I had the money, I's pay two billion for the franchise, ballpark, and share of NESN. I'd get baseball people to run the baseball ops and concentrate on making NESN not suck. Rule #1, don't ever miss a play again, you fucking assholes. Rule #2, let's have programming that doesn't suck.
 

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I mean, if I had to get more specific with a plan...

Tiered control %'s based on amount invested. There would be a floor and cap limit. It wouldn't need to be proportional to amount spent, but it would incentivize those that could spend more to do so, while limiting the amount one person can control.

Budgeting done before hand with mandatory budget (payroll floor, maintenance costs, salaries, events, etc) and discretionary budget. If you choose to spend over the investing cap amount (or only want to spend to the max of one of the control tiers, with the stipulation that any mandatory budget be filled prior to discretionary budget), you get to choose to which discretionary operational cost that funding goes (additional player salaries, park upgrades, etc).

Something along those lines, I guess.
I’m going the other direction entirely; nobody gets more vote than anyone else and everyone’s on the board of directors. Or something. We have lawyers and finance guys and lawyers and so many lawyers on this site. We can do this.

More complicated problem: Non-Boston fans buying in. But, again: Lawyers. World’s most insane LLC? Whatever. Get it done.

Assuming that it would follow the Green Bay model,
So let’s not.

Are we going to have a vote every time we don't like the GM?
Yes; this would be awesome. Wisdom of crowds! And we just have short voting periods—you snooze, you lose.

Are we going to vote to terminate contracts and then demand that people fund more so that we can make up that payroll?
I didn’t know you could terminate contracts like that, but sure. All of the things.

Funding the team does not give individuals a say, it only lets them literally fund the team, show some civic pride and possibly keep the team from moving (not sure about that last point, but it may be written into some of the Packers charter documents).
So let’s not do that.

So assuming the GB model,
Let’s not.

It's a moot point though because it will be a lllllooooooooonnnngggggg time before we ever see another publicly owned sports team in North America. There is just too much money and too many incentives for owners to keep their current situations.


Mostly just so we have more authority to complain.
Yes. But how awesome would it be to never read any more posts about how we don’t have sufficient information to understand what’s going on?

Also, having the information would be pretty cool too.

As a stock holder you do vote for the board of directors and you can attend shareholders meetings. However that's where it ends. You have basically no control.
So we don’t do it like that.

Way to fight the hypothetical, people.
 

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I used to have Celtic stock so I'm obviously on board.

Mind you, if I had the money, I's pay two billion for the franchise, ballpark, and share of NESN. I'd get baseball people to run the baseball ops and concentrate on making NESN not suck. Rule #1, don't ever miss a play again, you fucking assholes. Rule #2, let's have programming that doesn't suck.
So you’re looking to get a massive discount?