I dunno, I have a hard time believing the team isn't motivated for this one.bankshot1 said:This does look like a trap game, and we may be taking the Colts lightly, but BB/Pats usually don't make rookie mistakes.
Agree on the over.
Oh I think the Patriots are extremely motivated and its obvious to me why many folks expect a blow-out with team scoring as much as possible. That said - and I know the Colts defense is amongst the worst in the league - I see Indianapolis as extremely motivated too. A 35-31 game wouldn't shock me, especially with Luck back.Ed Hillel said:I dunno, I have a hard time believing the team isn't motivated for this one.
I think the jury is still out on Pagano as a motivator.DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:Oh I think the Patriots are extremely motivated and its obvious to me why many folks expect a blow-out with team scoring as much as possible. That said - and I know the Colts defense is amongst the worst in the league - I see Indianapolis as extremely motivated too. A 35-31 game wouldn't shock me, especially with Luck back.
There is no Rev said:I think the jury is still out on Pagano as a motivator.
Listening to a cancer survivor refer to a guy with the flu as being literally on his death bed was... weird.
ESPN is part of this as well -- SportsCenter lead-ins this morning were about the Colts giving the game away.DrewDawg said:
I've seen a bit of narrative on twitter today saying the Colts lost because of the fake punt. While it certainly seemed to be the straw that broke their back, the Colts were losing at that point, and it took a gift pick 6 to have them not down 13+..
DrewDawg said:Colts board is amusing.
Some "if that's the best the AFC has..." stuff. Some "Kraft bought that onside kick recovery call" as well. Even a few "who have the Pats beaten?" posts.
Yeah, they beat you dude. They also beat the Jags, who you beat by 3, by 34 points and they beat the Bills, who also beat you.
DrewDawg said:Can someone link the place in the game thread where they try that play?
Compare and contrast:soxhop411 said:@SBNation: Chuck Pagano is taking fan-submitted questions on Twitter and everything is [emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91]. http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/10/19/9566951/chuck-pagano-show-question-twitter-colts-fake-punt-oh-no
I love this:soxhop411 said:@SBNation: Chuck Pagano is taking fan-submitted questions on Twitter and everything is [emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91]. http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/10/19/9566951/chuck-pagano-show-question-twitter-colts-fake-punt-oh-no
The story is already slowly becoming that the fake punt was the turning point that cost the Colts the game, but I doubt that, given that the Colts were already down six points late in the third quarter and about to punt the ball. They were already extremely unlikely to win the game; their win expectancy before the fourth-down play was 21.7 percent.3 Afterward, it was 15.0 percent.
The Colts came in as 8.5-point underdogs, the largest spread they’ve faced at home since Luck arrived in 2012, and Pagano coached like somebody who knew that his team wasn’t going to win a straight-up fight. The Colts needed to pull a few tricks out of their sleeves to win, and Pagano pursued David Strategies throughout the game to try to outfox the heavily favored Patriots.
The worrying thing if you’re a Colts fan, I think, is that this is the sort of game where the breaks went the Colts’ way and they still lost. If you were looking back at those four brutal losses to piece together a script of how the Colts could beat the Patriots, this is the sort of game you would have imagined. Indy scored on all three of its trips to the red zone and didn’t turn the ball over. It actually won the turnover battle and picked up a defensive touchdown, with Mike Adams grabbing the ball off Julian Edelman’s bobble and returning it for a pick-six. The Colts held Rob Gronkowski to just 50 yards and weren’t beaten to pieces by the Patriots running game, which ran for a still-impressive 116 yards on 25 carries.
Many thanks.soxhop411 said:http://forums.colts.com/topic/41419-colts-vs-patriots-sunday-night-football-game-thread/page-35
page 35 on the colts board (GDT) is where the trick play discussion starts
(talking about the final score vs. the actual game)It wasn’t that close.
The decision by coach Chuck Pagano to install the play and to run it says to me that the Colts think they have only a ghost of a chance to win the game playing it straight. Maybe there’s good reason for that. After the Colts led 21-20 at the half, Indy opened the second half with these six possessions: punt, punt, fake-punt debacle, punt, punt, turnover on downs. The only way we’ve got a chance is to draw up lottery-ticket plays. Is that what the Colts think?
The Patriots had to walk out of Lucas Oil Stadium early this morning thinking: Not bad. We put up 34 points on a team with a better defense than we’ve seen in Indy in years, we didn’t even get Rob Gronkowski involved in the first half, we punted five times, we handed them seven points on an interception that bounced out of Julian Edelman’s hands and into Mike Adams’, and we couldn’t hear ourselves think for three quarters because the place sounded like Seattle. Put those things together, and a seven-point win sounds fine.
And TY Hilton's dropped TD in the end zone being called incorrectly to not be down 7 more points.DrewDawg said:Can someone link the place in the game thread where they try that play?
I've seen a bit of narrative on twitter today saying the Colts lost because of the fake punt. While it certainly seemed to be the straw that broke their back, the Colts were losing at that point, and it took a gift pick 6 to have them not down 13+.
Looking forward to see what NE can do now that this game is behind them.
soxhop411 said:http://forums.colts.com/topic/41419-colts-vs-patriots-sunday-night-football-game-thread/page-35
page 35 on the colts board (GDT) is where the trick play discussion starts
How about the Colts touchdown pass where the ball was 100% laying the ground and no official (apparently) saw it?DrewDawg said:I mean, without the gift pick-6, the Pats, based on how they played in first half (no punts) likely get at least 3 on the drive. If Chandler isn't called for OPI, that's a TD and not a FG. 34-27 could have been 41-20 very easily.
But yeah, you're fine Colts fans.
RIrooter09 said:Their use of stars in place of curse words is adorable.
What an *ic play call. Just *ic.
Anyone know what *ic is? A few posters there have used it.RIrooter09 said:Their use of stars in place of curse words is adorable.
Al Zarilla said:How about the Colts touchdown pass where the ball was 100% laying the ground and no official (apparently) saw it?
Are you going by the still frame pic out there? Because there was an animated GIF that 100% looked like the ball coming loose.DrewDawg said:
On the short Hilton TD? I thought it was his elbow on the ground, not the ball?
tims4wins said:
Magnificentglennhoffmania said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JP4Y0Xcm4g
djbayko said:Are you going by the still frame pic out there? Because there was an animated GIF that 100% looked like the ball coming loose.
reminds me ofsoxhop411 said:https://twitter.com/BlackBearsFB/status/656097488907190273
Okay, I didn't see that conversation. I only saw the link to an article with the still frame saying it appears to be an elbow. If you saw the video too, then apparently there are differing opinions and it wasn't as cut and dried as I thought.DrewDawg said:
I'm going by the video someone posted and then there was a comment that what everyone thought was the ball was the guy's left elbow while the ball was in his right arm.
If I'm wrong, show me, because I'd love to get righteously indignant over it.