I think this is good take. The hitters’ version of “He’s the ace” didn’t seem to work last year.Adding his bat opens this offense up big time. The kids can press less and continue to grow. Love it.
If it's 5/$125m with an opt out after 2 or 3 we can agree that it will be a pretty heavy blink out of DD though, right?I’m guessing it’s a 5 year deal guaranteed with close to the original money offered with a player option and some built-in production bonuses.
Confirming that yes, sports Twitter is just a room full of dudes battling for "First Post!" glory.Further confirmation from Jon Morosi.
J.D. Martinez has agreed to a contract with #RedSox, sources confirm @pedrogomezESPN report. @JonHeyman was first to report deal was close. @MLBNetwork @MLB
Waiting on the $ numbers.My guess: JDM signs by Thursday noon, 5/110 (22 each yr), with an opt-out after two years. JDM gets security and the chance to re-test the market at age 32 and does not have to take a pillow contract and compete in the 2018 FA market.
How can we agree on that when we don’t know what he offered from day 1? He was asking for 7/$200 or whatever and settles for 5/$125 with a likely to be exercised opt out, DD certainly won.If it's 5/$125m with an opt out after 2 or 3 we can agree that it will be a pretty heavy blink out of DD though, right?
Can't imagine an opt out won't be in the mix. But I wasn't imagining an hour ago that DD would actually blink here either I guess.
That’s a great deal for the Sox. The opt-out was likely the only way to get it done without going up big on the money.Morosi says 5/110 with opt out after two years.
Yeah, this would make the most sense. Boras gets his guy a notable per/year rate in this market, and saves a little face on the walk of shame aspect with the opt out.frontloaded... 25 the first two years then 20 the other three?
It’s not over until it’s over. This sounds like a 2/50 deal, with a $110 million guarantee for injury or regression. If he’s still good at 31, there is another contract out there for him.So Boras got 100 million less than he initially asked for.
I'll take it. Paying a position less slugger shouldn't have to be expensive anyhow.It’s not over until it’s over. This sounds like a 2/50 deal, with a $110 million grantee for injury or regression. If he’s still good at 31, there is another contract out there for him.
He’s 31 in August so he better be good at 31.It’s not over until it’s over. This sounds like a 2/50 deal, with a $110 million guarantee for injury or regression. If he’s still good at 31, there is another contract out there for him.
...after Harper and Machado reset the market.It’s not over until it’s over. This sounds like a 2/50 deal, with a $110 million guarantee for injury or regression. If he’s still good at 31, there is another contract out there for him.
Last 4 years, outfielders only, sorted by offensive WAR:Over the past four seasons, JDM has been as effective a hitter as Stanton or Harper, albeit without the defense, or even Ortiz. In other words, we're getting a top-5 hitter that replaces our missing power, and we are paying less than the Yankees did for the same caliber hitter (albeit one that is two years older).
Given the baffling deal the Padres just signed for Hosmer, whose likely performance is somewhere between Wil Myers and Mitch Moreland, If we get JDM for 5/125 or 6/150, I'll be happy.
Reset the market yes but they would also presumably take a lot of money off the table....after Harper and Machado reset the market.
That two year span lines up well with our contention window, so I'm not too broken up about the opt out, if it allowed Dombrowski to hold the line on AAV.
Oops, right. He’ll have the option at 32.He’s 31 in August so he better be good at 31.
Not this again pleaseOops, right. He’ll have the option at 32.
Options suck. He will only take it if he is worth less than 3/60, or whatever it is. For the Sox, this is a two-year deal with downside.
Stanton has as much chance of opting out as the Russians have to stop cheating in the Olympics and tinkering with elections.Last 4 years, outfielders only, sorted by offensive WAR:
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Stanton is two years younger and not a complete liability in the field, but on the other side of the coin he does have $295m remaining guaranteed, opt out after 3 years and a full no trade.
Yeah I’m not looking to delve into the opt out debate again, but if he mashes for two years and leaves to get a big ticket at 33+, all good. I want nothing to do with him at that age and if he’s option out, it’s because he hit well. Let someone else pay for his decline.Oops, right. He’ll have the option at 32.
Options suck. He will only take it if he is worth less than 3/60, or whatever it is. For the Sox, this is a two-year deal with downside.
What is the again?Not this again please
If opt outs keep players motivated so we don’t end up with another Sandoval or Crawford I’m good with it
What would a 'good' JDM deal have looked like to you, mate?What is the again?
I’m just saying if you want to characterize the deal properly, it is a 2 year, $50 million deal, with the player guaranteed an additional $60 million for injury or regression.
We can argue that’s good or bad. To me, a $60 million guarantee is a lot to pay to motivate a guy who just signed for 2/50. I hope he’s great for two years. At least we get an exclusive window if he is.
If he ends up walking, the Sox will, at least, have gotten a bargain during the first two years. If he doesn't, at least Pablo will be off of the books by then.Oops, right. He’ll have the option at 32.
Options suck. He will only take it if he is worth less than 3/60, or whatever it is. For the Sox, this is a two-year deal with downside.