Juan Soto Traded to the Yankees
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I'd laugh if the deal gets scuttled because the Padres don't like the medicals of one of the Yankees.
This was the reported ask from the Padres on Friday which everyone was kind of saying was way too big of an ask.
& then there were reports that the Blue Jays were "serious contenders" & desperate & maybe offering Tiedemann & Manoah or whatever, & then the Padres I guess dropped the 2 other mystery pitchers, Higgy was added, & they called it a day.
But yeah, the Yankees were always by far the most logical fit, though & able to give the Padres like 18 years of pretty good pitcher control for 1 year of Soto without blowing up their entire structure in the process.
Well, the 7 names that were rumored in one of the packages was King AND Schmidt, Thorpe, Vazquez, Brito and two prospects for Soto and Grisham.
Schmidt isn't in the final deal (as far as we know). And frankly, I am glad they are holding on to him. He really became a dependable arm and I am much more confident in him pitching more innings than King (though probably not AS good) and has two more years of control.
I think that was more in the initial "look at all these names stage" but even then it seemed to be more King OR Schmidt & Thorpe OR Hampton + pieces.
By that Friday report, Brito & Vasquez were the 3rd & 4th names, so the 5th & 6th guys presumably would have been a tier below that.
But both sides did well for their goals, & I'm sure you will all enjoy the (hopefully brief) Soto era.
Big enough news to warrant it's own thread, and it's popping up in a few of the other threads. Breaking out a selection of posts from those threads, but please feel free to copy/paste or whatever into this one if you feel so inclined.
It’s amazing a guy this talented is on his third team already and likely will be on a fourth team a year from now unless the yankees pony up 400-500 million in the next 12+ months.
The Yankees are absolutely keeping him beyond this year unless his NY experience is so bad that he wants out.
What’s amazing is the Padres miscalculated this badly on their own winning window and are selling off the guy that was supposed to put them over the top a year later.
That’s just atrocious management from them.
The Padres very clearly went all in trying to win a championship for their owner who was in failing health. They did not succeed, and the reset is kind of expected.
I mean, it was owner-driven and he got to see them make a run to the 2022 NLCS, including knocking off the hated Dodgers in the NLDS, before he died, so I disagree.
Yup. It definitely sucks for them, especially the X contract. The Nats made out quite well in this, especially if James Wood hits his potential.
Yeah exactly. If the Yankees aren’t giving him that much money, who is? Guessing he’s extended before his Yankee debut:
View: https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1732569172289142998?s=20
It's gonna be a minute.
It's gonna be a minute.
The Mets.
How does the package the Padres paid for Soto compare with the one they’re rumored to be receiving for him from the Yankees?
The Yankees aren’t the biggest fish in the pond anymore.
Zero chance Boras doesn’t take him to free agency to generate a bidding war for Gen Z Ted Williams.
They gave up a huge package to get him. This is like .30 cents on the dollar compared to what they gave up IMO.
It's the difference between 2 1/2 seasons and 1 season, plus he will be paid more in 2024 (around $33M) than 2022 ($17M) or 2023 ($23M), but the SD package was way way bigger.
View: https://twitter.com/jinwook67914146/status/1732556992710148108
If they can wait a few more days and announce it on the 11th they can commemorate the six year anniversary of the last generational talent the Yankees acquired via trade, Giancarlo “Mike” Stanton.
Slight addendum to that calculus. The Yankees turned all those pieces and around $45 something million in additional salary for 2024 (I'm not sure what King will get, the Yankees group is somewhere around $48M to $50M total). While the Yankees have a bigger budget than almost anyone, that's a giant chunk of change with only Grisham under control past this year, and the Yankees have sent out a bunch of potentially cost controlled guys in exchange.
I cannot imagine Soto signing an extension unless it's an absurd, "we'll give you Ohtani's contract" kind of offer. Otherwise he's going to have every major market team in the MLB offering him 10 to 15 year deals next offseason.
Jon abbey, Crow and other yankee followers: do you think there is a realistic chance of the Yankees cutting Stanton?
That is what Ben Clemons argues for in his Fangraphs write-up of the deal. I was wondering how much that possibility is being discussed in the NYY media/fan sphere.
That is what Ben Clemons argues for in his Fangraphs write-up of the deal. I was wondering how much that possibility is being discussed in the NYY media/fan sphere.
I didn't read that yet, but zero chance. Once the deal is actually finalized, I will run through where NY stands.
All fair, but this lack of control is actually a perfect fit for NY, let me explain.
Soto: Obviously NY would prefer him signed as long as possible, but any additional control would have pushed the price way up, maybe past where NY was comfortable with. More than one year of control and I don't think they get him.
Verdugo/Grisham: These guys are placeholders for NY. The first benefit here is that now there will be no pressure for Jasson Dominguez to rush back midseason, although if he makes it back before the trading deadline, I wouldn't be surprised to see NY move Verdugo. It also gives their other two big OF prospects, Spencer Jones and Pereira, more development time, but all three are ready (Dominguez) or close (the other two).
Any idea what the "issues" are? This tweet makes it sound like less of a sure thing than has been reported the last few hours. I'm sure it will get done but, as a Sox fan, I can still hold out hope!
This is easy to overlook also, Brito was dominant once he switched to long relief partway through the season, I was excited for him to be NY's long guy this season:
View: https://twitter.com/BWDBWDBWD/status/1732572023996461365
View: https://twitter.com/BWDBWDBWD/status/1732572023996461365
Anyone hearing anything about the Padres' fan perspective on the deal? My Twitter, and here, is very Yankees focused.
The 'Yankees Hot Stove' show is on live at 10:30 PM EST on YES, I usually record those and rarely end up watching them (even though I am jonesing for any and all info, there is shockingly little usually), but you know I will be watching live to see what Jack Curry has to say at the top of the show.
Unrealistic and way more unrealistic, respectively.
Do they not know about SD's current financial issues or they just choose to pretend they don't exist? (rhetorical question, no need to answer)
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/padres-took-out-50-million-loan-to-help-cover-payroll-per-report-could-juan-soto-trade-help-cut-costs/
Thank God I had to travel for work today otherwise this would have been ridiculously frustrating to follow.
I'm so bummed. I really liked Juan Soto, but the Yankees know the guys to target. Does it sometime turn sideways? Sure. But when you can get one of the best OPS guys in baseball for minor leaguers, why the fuck wouldn't you?