Kirk and Callahan: Done

[Eric1984]

If he moves to 2 pm, he'll never be heard from again. I've already switched to T&R, but when they're talking about pro wrestling or something else I couldn't care less about, I'll occasionally switch back to EEI and stay there till the break if they're talkign about sports.

But there would NEVER be any reason for me to switch from Felger and Mazz to hear that sneering dick.

 

[Hildy]

They were talking about that this morning, but I didn't take them seriously. It doesn't make sense.

 

[dabombdig]

QUOTE (Hildy @ Sep 25 2009, 10:25 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2588389
They were talking about that this morning, but I didn't take them seriously. It doesn't make sense.



From BSMW:

It sounds like Gerry Callahan is going to be making an appearance on the Big Show this afternoon, at least that’s what was stated a number of times on the WEEI morning show today, hosted by Butch Stearns and Greg Dickerson. John Dennis is undergoing surgery this morning, and apparently will be out to at least start next week. At the end of the morning show, Dickerson said that Callahan would be back in the morning on Monday

 

[weeba]

QUOTE (dabombdig @ Sep 25 2009, 11:04 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2588452
From BSMW:

It sounds like Gerry Callahan is going to be making an appearance on the Big Show this afternoon, at least that’s what was stated a number of times on the WEEI morning show today, hosted by Butch Stearns and Greg Dickerson. John Dennis is undergoing surgery this morning, and apparently will be out to at least start next week. At the end of the morning show, Dickerson said that Callahan would be back in the morning on Monday


Broken hip from old age? Just at the end of golf season.

 

[Hildy]

QUOTE (dabombdig @ Sep 25 2009, 11:04 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2588452
From BSMW:

It sounds like Gerry Callahan is going to be making an appearance on the Big Show this afternoon, at least that’s what was stated a number of times on the WEEI morning show today, hosted by Butch Stearns and Greg Dickerson. John Dennis is undergoing surgery this morning, and apparently will be out to at least start next week. At the end of the morning show, Dickerson said that Callahan would be back in the morning on Monday



Yes, I was talking about a permanent move. A one-off is understandable.

 

[shawnrbu]

Prepare for a long commute tomorrow morning as Schilling will be hosting with Callahan. How many people can those two piss off during four hours of radio?

 

[weeba]

QUOTE (shawnrbu @ Sep 30 2009, 03:01 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2599562
Prepare for a long commute tomorrow morning as Schilling will be hosting with Callahan. How many people can those two piss off during four hours of radio?


Most of listeners, but probably only 1/4 of the callers.

 

[HomeBrew1901]

Flipped to D&C during commercials on TSH this morning, nice to see Callahan doing his best to piss off the Christian community now too.

It was GREAT hearing Dennis snap at him to let a guy finish his point.

 

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

What did he say, Christ was a whiner?

 

[HomeBrew1901]

QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Oct 8 2009, 09:51 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2613587
What did he say, Christ was a whiner?

He started off making a lot of sense about the 4 kids that killed the mom at random in NH. Can't blame the parents, probably did all they could, etc etc etc...

The part that I missed is that I guess he started to ridicule the minister that asked that people pray for the kids that committed this crime. This sent GC off so a Christian called in to try and explain what the Minister meant.

Callahan pulled his normal schtick and kept cutting the guy off because he didn't believe in what the Christian guy was saying about prayer and forgiveness, and I have to give the Christian credit because he kept his cool. Finally Dennis got fed up and snapped at Gerry "WILL YOU LET THE GUY FINISH, go ahead caller". Callahan shut up the guy finished and then he went off on another tirade.

 

[Vinho Tinto]

Found this video of John Dennis many chins ago....

 

[4 6 3 DP]

Did I hear at the end of the D+C show that Callahan is going to the Big Show permanently being replaced by DeOssie or was that some running gag?

 

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

That can't be true, can it?

I thought that Callahan wasn't in this morning because his head literally exploded over the shoddy treatment of Jesus Chr ... I mean Rush Limbaugh by that well-known lefty, liberal hippie organization the National Football League.

 

[Phenom]

QUOTE (4 6 3 DP @ Oct 15 2009, 02:01 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2629894
Did I hear at the end of the D+C show that Callahan is going to the Big Show permanently being replaced by DeOssie or was that some running gag?


I haven't really listened to "The Big Show" since 98.5 began (although I did listen for a bit on Tuesday when McAdam was on), so I'm not up on their portion of the gag.

But I do still flip over to D+C occasionally in the mornings, and I have heard Callahan say things like, "I'm praising the Patriots, I'm really vying for a spot on the afternoon show," so I'm guessing it's a running gag.

 

[SteveCrawford]

QUOTE (4 6 3 DP @ Oct 15 2009, 02:01 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2629894
Did I hear at the end of the D+C show that Callahan is going to the Big Show permanently being replaced by DeOssie or was that some running gag?

It's a running gag. Early on JD mentioned Callahan was in NY with Mike Maloney ('The Rick Guy' and Yes Dear).
Some woman called in at like 820 wondering if Callahan was really going to the Big Show. JD said yup DeOssie is our guy now and threw in a couple lines that Gerry worships Belichick so he's switched shows. JD said to the caller what you don't like DeOssie but the lady was like I'd do but wow I'm going to miss Gerry. Same thing happened a couple weeks back and was discussed in this thread a few posts up.

 

[plusbrians]

I heard Jackie MacMullan on the air the other day and I heard her talking about her Magic/Larry book. It sounded as though it just came out, but google searches say it came out in 2003. I can't find it anywhere.. was there a rerelease or something?

I'd like to snag a copy...

 

[BannedbyNYYFans.com]

QUOTE (plusbrians @ Oct 17 2009, 01:33 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2633116
I heard Jackie MacMullan on the air the other day and I heard her talking about her Magic/Larry book. It sounded as though it just came out, but google searches say it came out in 2003. I can't find it anywhere.. was there a rerelease or something?

I'd like to snag a copy...


No, she just finished writing it w/ Magic and Larry. It isn't out yet. She gave copies to Dale and Holley and both were raving about it but they said they received advaced copies and that it won't be on sale to the public for another week or so.

Update...it says it's now available at Amazon on October 20th

When the Game Was Ours (Hardcover)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0547225474

 

[plusbrians]

Then what is this?

In 1999, MacMullan collaborated with Larry Bird on his autobiography Bird Watching: on Playing and Coaching the Game I Love. She published Magic and Bird: Basketball's Awed Couple about Bird and rival Magic Johnson in 2003, and in 2006 released Geno: In Pursuit of Perfection with Geno Auriemma and Diana Taurasi, a work that has come under heavy fire for putting a sports columnist in a business relationship with a sports personality she covers in the media.



via Wikipedia

 

[moondog80]

QUOTE (Vinho Tinto @ Oct 14 2009, 09:38 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2628376
Found this video of John Dennis many chins ago....





That's actually pretty funny, almost cutting edge for 1988.

 

[URI]

A different book?

http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Bird-Basketbal...e/dp/2895680779

http://www.amazon.com/When-Game-Ours-Larry...5876&sr=1-1

 

[cleanfloor]

I'll be tuning in tomorrow morning purely for comedic value. Belichick already tried to quell the storm in his conference:

QUOTE (bb)
Q: Anytime there's a big score at the half, was there any thought of taking Tom Brady out?

BB: We took him out right after that. I think it was one more drive or two - whatever it was. [Brian] Hoyer played a big chunk of the game. You only have 45 guys in the game, somebody's got to play. You only have seven linemen, down a receiver here or there, or running back. The guys that are here have got to play.

 

[EricM80]

The only thing more annoying than Gerry Callahan pretending to know politics is hearing him pretend to know sports.

Listening to him comment on J.D. Drew this morning leads me to believe that he he still is stuck in the 1970s and thinks RBI are the key stat to evaluate a player.

He also said that the Red Sox would not hesitate to trade Lester AND several other players to Seattle for Felix Hernandez. I like Hernandez a lot, but there is no way the Sox trade Lester and others to get him.

 

[Harry Hooper]

QUOTE (EricM80 @ Oct 22 2009, 10:57 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642383
The only thing more annoying than Gerry Callahan pretending to know politics is hearing him pretend to know sports.

Listening to him comment on J.D. Drew this morning leads me to believe that he he still is stuck in the 1970s and thinks RBI are the key stat to evaluate a player.

He also said that the Red Sox would not hesitate to trade Lester AND several other players to Seattle for Felix Hernandez. I like Hernandez a lot, but there is no way the Sox trade Lester and others to get him.



That was a bit weird. First Gerry said Lester was the only untouchable on the roster, then 2 minutes later he said he'd throw him in to a Felix deal in a heartbeat.

They actually discussed VORP this morning, which was a milestone for that show, though they didn't know rankings factored in a player's position.

 

[EricM80]

QUOTE (Harry Hooper @ Oct 22 2009, 03:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642405
They actually discussed VORP this morning, which was a milestone for that show, though they didn't know rankings factored in a player's position.


It was embarrassing hearing them being condescending about stats they had literally no clue about. If you think a stat is stupid, fine, but tell us why you think that is the case. Don't just mock things you don't understand.

 

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

I heard a bit of the Epstein interview and it sounded to be like Gerry Callahan was sincere in his abandoning of RBI as a useful stat. Was that just BS?

To paraphrase, "You guys don't look at RBI?" Epstein said, not really and went on to explain how at first, it was hard for him to discount RBIs too but over time he grew to understand that it isn't a really good stat and used a pretty good metaphor on why he changed his mind.

Callahan seemed (at least to me) blown away by this revelation and seemed to be at least considering what Epstein said.

 

[EricM80]

QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Oct 22 2009, 03:26 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642449
I heard a bit of the Epstein interview and it sounded to be like Gerry Callahan was sincere in his abandoning of RBI as a useful stat. Was that just BS?

To paraphrase, "You guys don't look at RBI?" Epstein said, not really and went on to explain how at first, it was hard for him to discount RBIs too but over time he grew to understand that it isn't a really good stat and used a pretty good metaphor on why he changed his mind.

Callahan seemed (at least to me) blown away by this revelation and seemed to be at least considering what Epstein said.


It seemed like Callahan hopped on the RBI bandwagon right after the interview, however, citing Drew's RBI totals in certain situations, etc.

 

[BellhornsBiatch]

You have to hear them laughing at the adjustments necessary for calculating VORP. Callahan was reading off the necessary steps for calculation, and they were just laughing as if it was completely ridiculous to use that many operations to determine value. Meter, I will give him credit, tried to explain why it's important to know how much better player A is than player B, because that's the marginal utility of the player, and they both just were like... "psh hah 'marginal utility'!?"

 

[BS_SoxFan]

QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Oct 22 2009, 11:26 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642449
I heard a bit of the Epstein interview and it sounded to be like Gerry Callahan was sincere in his abandoning of RBI as a useful stat. Was that just BS?

To paraphrase, "You guys don't look at RBI?" Epstein said, not really and went on to explain how at first, it was hard for him to discount RBIs too but over time he grew to understand that it isn't a really good stat and used a pretty good metaphor on why he changed his mind.

Callahan seemed (at least to me) blown away by this revelation and seemed to be at least considering what Epstein said.


Yeah Callahan and the other two seemed blown away and more or less commended Epstein for opening their eyes to a new way to look at the game. When the interview was over I flipped to T&R and when they went to commercial came back to D&C to hear Callahan and Meter gleefully ripping on Epstein for lessening the importance of RBI. So, instead of challenging Theo when he was on the phone, like the spineless pussies they both are they waited till he was off the phone to cackle and disregard much of what he said while Dennis's corpse chuckled every so often. So it most likely went just as you expected it would.

 

[EricM80]

QUOTE (BS_SoxFan @ Oct 22 2009, 05:33 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642582
Yeah Callahan and the other two seemed blown away and more or less commended Epstein for opening their eyes to a new way to look at the game. When the interview was over I flipped to T&R and when they went to commercial came back to D&C to hear Callahan and Meter gleefully ripping on Epstein for lessening the importance of RBI. So, instead of challenging Theo when he was on the phone, like the spineless pussies they both are they waited till he was off the phone to cackle and disregard much of what he said while Dennis's corpse chuckled every so often. So it most likely went just as you expected it would.



I did hear one caller afterward rip them. I did not hear the Epstein interview, but he evidently talked about how they look at several new stats to evaluate players. But the caller blasted them because they evidently did not ask Theo what these stats were.

 

[judyb]

The Big Show is going to replay and talk about some parts of the Theo interview, why do I think Theo picked a really bad time to open up the Drew can of worms?

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

QUOTE (judyb @ Oct 22 2009, 04:10 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642857
The Big Show is going to replay and talk about some parts of the Theo interview, why do I think Theo picked a really bad time to open up the Drew can of worms?

With Smerlas and Stearns on, this could be absolutely will be a disaster.

Painful radio upcoming.

 

[judyb]

Wow, not the best job by Schilling, there, either. You'd think a pitcher would have better understanding of the value of defense. Somebody send these guys a link to fangraphs.

 

[Razor Shines]

QUOTE (judyb @ Oct 22 2009, 05:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642934
Wow, not the best job by Schilling, there, either. You'd think a pitcher would have better understanding of the value of defense. Somebody send these guys a link to fangraphs.

Derek Jeter's three Gold Glove Awards seem to indicate that most MLB players, in general, tend to eschew progressive defensive stats (not just Curt).

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

QUOTE (judyb @ Oct 22 2009, 05:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642934
Somebody send these guys a link to fangraphs.

Way ahead of you. Fat chance they'll actually read it, let alone address it on air.

 

[judyb]

QUOTE (Razor Shines @ Oct 22 2009, 05:08 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2642937
Derek Jeter's three Gold Glove Awards seem to indicate that most MLB players, in general, tend to eschew progressive defensive stats (not just Curt).

He doesn't have to use any stats, he clearly acknowledged how much better Drew is defensively than Jason Bay, then, just like the rest of them, he completely disregards that when attempting to assign a value to the 2 players.

 

[judyb]

I have to give them some credit, though, it turned into much less of an attack on either Drew or Theo than I was expecting. I never imagined they'd believe that Theo was being sincere.

 

[SocrManiac]

I had to turn it off when one of their "celebrity" callers came on and started defending the RBI. Glen and his cronies just don't get it.

G38 made a few good points that set them bumbling backward. I think, though, he held back. Whether due to his contract or to avoid talking down to the masses, he stopped short of really putting these guys in their place as he has in the past. Regardless, it was nice to at least hear about advanced statistical concepts on EEI for a change.

Similar to how D&C chickened out with Theo, Ordway and company waited until their mouth-breathers intervened to move back into their statistical comfort zones, such as they are. It was funny to listen to them try to use G38's arguments to shoot down a caller, however. It was like listening to a 2nd grader recap DNA sequencing heard from a scientist to a kindergardener.

 

[Phenom]

Judging by the lack of interest in this thread, I am assuming there is a lack of interest in D&C (and rightfully so).

But today, I flipped over during one of T&R's commercial breaks, and heard that Lou Merloni was in for John Dennis. Suffice to say, I listened for the rest of my commute.

As has been said before, Callahan is much better when he's not with Dennis, who clearly doesn't follow and has no interest in following sports anymore.

 

[americantrotter]

We don't get TSH up here in Portland, and I don't stream anything while driving so I checked in on the good ole boy Callahan as I flipped around. Callahan was complaining about Obama's speech not including the word terrorist, muslim, and some other word. Was basically saying that it was a speech of nothing because it ran around the edges of the actual issue and that he was pandering to the taliban in hopes of not offending them.

Instead of listening to the merits of the speech he just attacked it from his belief standpoint. This is his norm, but it felt contrived this time. Like he knew he had to do it. That he has to hit the terrorist card.

On an unrelated note: I still can't get over that he is tall and skinny, he sounds like Rush looks.

 

[underhandtofirst]

QUOTE (Phenom @ Nov 11 2009, 09:02 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2678943
Judging by the lack of interest in this thread, I am assuming there is a lack of interest in D&C (and rightfully so).

But today, I flipped over during one of T&R's commercial breaks, and heard that Lou Merloni was in for John Dennis. Suffice to say, I listened for the rest of my commute.

As has been said before, Callahan is much better when he's not with Dennis, who clearly doesn't follow and has no interest in following sports anymore.


I did the same and it was interesting listening to Lou talk about player who used their talent and those that didnt (Ruben Rivera, Sadler, Coleman). Of course, Callahan asked Lou if Manny had the same heart as him if Manny would have been one of the all time greats. Lou didnt skip a beat and said Manny worked as hard as anyone, he was just a little different. Nice try Gerry.

Back to 98.5 to listen to commercials

 

[Vinho Tinto]

QUOTE (underhandtofirst @ Nov 11 2009, 10:20 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2679024
Of course, Callahan asked Lou if Manny had the same heart as him if Manny would have been one of the all time greats.


Manny Ramirez isn't an alltime great? Gerry must have been filling theit dumb comment quota that John Dennis usually takes care of.

 

[ObstructedView]

I've always assumed that I miss whatever actual sports talk occurs on D&C because I never tune in early enough; by the time I check at 7:00 or 8:00 they've moved onto political rants, news headlines, etc. So when I found myself in the car at 6:00 on Monday morning on my way to the airport, I figured I might actually catch some Pats-Fins talk as the show kicked off. They did discuss the game for about three minutes, before Callahan quickly jumped to Olbermann and how he's just as divisive a figure as Rush because he sometimes critcizes players (the segue was Olbermann's claiming that Moss "mailed in" his effort on the 1st-quarter INT). Callahan also managed a couple derisive comments about some celebrity lesbian who is "married" (he used the word sarcastically); the other guys chimed in with utterly hilarious comments about her "little-boy haircut".

 

[judyb]

Callahan seems to almost hate having to talk about sports, the part of sports talk that involves discussing the play on the field seems to just bore the life out of him.

 

[Gambler7]

Did I miss something? Just switched from 98.5 to WEEI for Dale and Holley and heard D&C talking to Holley like it was his last show. Asking him if he was going to do all TV now and talking about a revolving door on the mid-day show. He then said it was great working with them, etc. Was this a joke? Hard to tell I caught it in the middle.

 

[Nator]

QUOTE (Gambler7 @ Nov 12 2009, 09:06 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2680215
Did I miss something? Just switched from 98.5 to WEEI for Dale and Holley and heard D&C talking to Holley like it was his last show. Asking him if he was going to do all TV now and talking about a revolving door on the mid-day show. He then said it was great working with them, etc. Was this a joke? Hard to tell I caught it in the middle.



I think they were just kidding around. Holley is dressed up nicely, probably due to some TV appearance he's making today.

 

[Captaincoop]

So, D&C this morning were discussing "things listeners do that are 'gay'".

I usually kind of enjoy the banter on the show, especially when it stays away from bitter political stuff...but this was awful. "You listen to Abba? You're gay!"..."You watch Grey's Anatomy? You must be gay!"...etc.

My point isn't that Abba and Grey's Anatomy don't suck - they certainly suck. But WEEI (presumably - I turned it off after ten nauseating minutes) spent an hour during drivetime spewing idiotic stereotypes and homophobic slurs. Well done.

Really, though, I think it says a lot more about Boston than it does about Dennis and Callahan. Today's show would be unacceptable in any other American city that claims to be cosmopolitan and "world-class". Here it is business as usual on the top-rated show in town.

 

[Razor Shines]

QUOTE (Captaincoop @ Nov 19 2009, 10:07 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2691127
Really, though, I think it says a lot more about Boston than it does about Dennis and Callahan. Today's show would be unacceptable in any other American city that claims to be cosmopolitan and "world-class". Here it is business as usual on the top-rated show in town.

I agreed with you up until this point. Right off the top of my head, I think of a few shows broadcast out of bigger "world class" US cities that enrage a lot more people than D&C do.

Also, you may not notice this from the West Coast, but anyone from here can tell you that there is a huge difference between Educated Boston and WEEI Boston.

 

[Captaincoop]

I actually live back in Boston now. And I stand by my comments.

But I don't want to get off-topic and would rather focus on how inappropriate the show was today. I don't understand how adults can find that garbage funny in 2009, yet clearly they do, as the phone was ringing off the hook with idiots.

 

[ifmanis5]

QUOTE (Captaincoop @ Nov 19 2009, 10:07 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2691127
So, D&C this morning were discussing "things listeners do that are 'gay'".

I usually kind of enjoy the banter on the show, especially when it stays away from bitter political stuff...but this was awful. "You listen to Abba? You're gay!"..."You watch Grey's Anatomy? You must be gay!"...etc.

D&C are so fucking stupid they can't even get their gay bashing right. Grey's Anatomy is a show designed for middle-aged women and that's who watches it. It's certainly not a show that resonates withing the gay community. Watching Grey's makes you a 34+ woman, not gay.

 

[TheRealness]

QUOTE (Captaincoop @ Nov 19 2009, 11:08 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2691257
I actually live back in Boston now. And I stand by my comments.

But I don't want to get off-topic and would rather focus on how inappropriate the show was today. I don't understand how adults can find that garbage funny in 2009, yet clearly they do, as the phone was ringing off the hook with idiots.


I don't think it says anything about Boston. We don't know who turned it off because of it, and who thought it was funny. Such baseless generalizations are stupid and useless.

As for D&C, this may be an attempt to infuse some "guy humor" into the show, and may be a result of them being absolutely terrified of Toucher and Rich. Also, you're talking about a show that panders to these types of listeners, so it's no surprise they got feedback from the mouthbreathers who enjoy their show.