Tyrone Biggums said:Yeah there is no way in hell the Sox include Koji in a Craig + prospects deal. If they do then Boston's system is probably getting reloaded.
Perhaps we are shy about injured players after Victorino. If we got as much from Craig as we got from the Torino, I'd be thrilled. But the injury is worrying. Also, the Cards are nobody's fools. They let Mujica go, how's that working out? If Koji is truly on the block, I guess Mujica's the closer. Oy vey.BosRedSox5 said:I know Craig is struggling this season, but there's speculation that is related to an injury. From 2011-2013 he was absolutely outstanding. That's a period of about two and a half seasons and he slashed .312/.364/.500/.863. OPS+ was 136, and his spray charts seem to indicate that he uses the whole field. He did all this while being a supersub in 2011 (played 6 different positions) and moving between LF, RF and 1B from 2012-2013. He's had a good amount of big league success. I'm kind of scratching my head on why people around here seem so down on him.
InsideTheParker said:If Koji is truly on the block, I guess Mujica's the closer. Oy vey.
Perhaps but if we are looking at current numbers Craig is under contract for a few seasons at a decent contract by his previous production standard. If he produces as he is now for the rest of the contract he becomes an albatross. Relievers have a major market at the deadline. Not to mention if they win a World Series the year prior and continue to dominate. Unless the return is great you don't trade Koji.Savin Hillbilly said:
I think you vastly overestimate the trade value of a three-month rental of a 39-year-old relief pitcher, no matter how distinguished his recent resume.
Savin Hillbilly said:
I think you vastly overestimate the trade value of a three-month rental of a 39-year-old relief pitcher, no matter how distinguished his recent resume.
Why are people even talking about Koji?Tyrone Biggums said:For a guy who is hitting well under replacement level currently it's a bad contract. If he rebounds then obviously not. It's a solid gamble for peavy. But not for Peavy and Koji
Darnell's Son said:Why are people even talking about Koji?
I don't know. It came up in the thread and it didn't make sense to me. Koji should not be moved in order to get CraigDarnell's Son said:Why are people even talking about Koji?
CorrectTyrone Biggums said:I don't know. It came up in the thread and it didn't make sense to me. Koji should not be moved in order to get Craig
Rovin Romine said:
But they've seen (personally) how pivotal Uehara can be in a short series. For instance, Ue's got a sweet pick off move.
Byrdbrain said:I don't think anyone is saying Koji shouldn't be traded just that there is no real reason to believe he is involved in this Peavy deal which is what this thread is about.
Seriously?Plympton91 said:Who closes in 2015? Or are they punting 2 seasons?
Who closes in 2015 if they don't trade him? They don't control him in 2015 whether they trade him or not.Who closes in 2015? Or are they punting 2 seasons?
judyb said:Who closes in 2015 if they don't trade him? They don't control him in 2015 whether they trade him or not.
Plympton91 said:Who closes in 2015? Or are they punting 2 seasons?
Darnell's Son said:Could a mod or dope split out the Koji talk? Maybe a "To trade or not to trade" thread?
This could be a stroke of genius. Is there a clear cut #1 pick this year?InsideTheParker said:If Koji is truly on the block, I guess Mujica's the closer. Oy vey.
twibnotes said:This could be a stroke of genius. Is there a clear cut #1 pick this year?
twibnotes said:This could be a stroke of genius. Is there a clear cut #1 pick this year?
Ordinarily I would be in complete agreement but we're talking about a one year deal for the guy who has been as good as humanly possible in the role and we're likely to be paying our shortstop, center fielder, right fielder, third baseman, two starting pitchers and at least one catcher less than fifteen million combined.Hoplite said:I can't imagine Koji would turn down a qualifying offer and paying $15 million for a closer doesn't seem like the most financially responsible thing to do.
Rasputin said:Ordinarily I would be in complete agreement but we're talking about a one year deal for the guy who has been as good as humanly possible in the role and we're likely to be paying our shortstop, center fielder, right fielder, third baseman, two starting pitchers and at least one catcher less than fifteen million combined.
Now maybe Lester gets signed to a deal bigger than we're imagining and maybe we bring in some thump that costs a ton but right now we have less than 79 million committed to 2015 and most of the free agents are guys we don't really want back--Drew, Pierzynski, Ross, Gomes, Peavy.
We bring back Koji, Lester, Miller and I'm good as far as our free agents go.
Hoplite said:I can't imagine Koji would turn down a qualifying offer and paying $15 million for a closer doesn't seem like the most financially responsible thing to do.
Papelbon's Poutine said:
They have $78.6M in commitments, including the last year of money to the Dodgers.
Medical costs are about $12M, so $90.6M.
Their arg eligible guys are: Carp, Harerra, Tazawa, Nava, Doubront and De La Rosa. I think $22M for those 6 guys may be a tad aggressive, no?
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m
If #RedSox make RPs available, expect #Dodgers to show interest. Uehara, Miller, Badenhop potential FAs. Breslow $100K buyout on $4M option
Badenhop, Breslow, Mujica might have value and I wouldn't mind seeing them go - but Koji and Miller are really good and must be kept regardless.Corsi said:
bosockboy said:Koji for Pederson...only deal that makes it worth it. 6 years of Pederson is worth more than Koji's age 40-41 seasons, regardless of how good he's been. If not Pederson or similar prospect, keep him.