Sorry, my post came off as a criticism but it was intended as agreement.
Mac's Future
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He'd be a terrible fit in Canada. He doesn't have the arm strength to play on a 120x53.3 yard field; 150x65 isn't going to help him.
Oh shit, was he not benched?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
He'd be an awful CFL QB. There's two downs, you have to throw like crazy and stretch the defense vertically. The 30 yard endzone only makes the red zone easier if you can actually throw the ball downfield.
A. They are giving him cover
B. That pick was so bad, maybe he tore something and it explains how he fucked up that throw so badly.
Mac is done here. Not sure if he gets any more snaps this season or not based on logistics, we have limited options.
But he won't be here next year. Maybe with some time off and a mental reset, he can catch on as a back up somewhere.
Despite the limited physical tools, clearly whatever is going on in his head is the bigger problem right now. He has had a major regression from perfectly decent rookie year, so it's gotta be more than just the noddle arm holding him back.
The OL and WR are bad as well, but that doesn't come close to explaining all the suck.
But he won't be here next year. Maybe with some time off and a mental reset, he can catch on as a back up somewhere.
Despite the limited physical tools, clearly whatever is going on in his head is the bigger problem right now. He has had a major regression from perfectly decent rookie year, so it's gotta be more than just the noddle arm holding him back.
The OL and WR are bad as well, but that doesn't come close to explaining all the suck.
That’s fine. I was replying to the suggestion that everyone thought Mac was the right pick. When I was watching the draft that night with my son, we were both pleading for Bill to trade up and take Fields. Mac was far from a unanimous choice.
I loved what Cam gave the team in 2020. Yeah, he could not throw, he had shitty weapons especially after Edelman was hurt, but he played tough, ran the ball like a beast, was accountable, had charisma, and never blamed his teammates. Mac throws just as poorly these days and brings nothing else to the table. How many time do we have to watch him shit the bed in a tight spot?
Is it? Without knowing the cap impacts. The guy seems like an ass, and is not good at football.
Why keep him in the building.
It's not. I really feel that he is a negative on this team in that he drags down the play of those around them.
He's currently giving a presser where he's questioning not throwing a Hail Mary at the end of the first half. He's a terrible teammate, a terrible leader, and a terrible QB.
Players like that poison an organization. Think Adalius Thomas in his last year here.
Cam's only problem was that he was cooked as a QB. Still a good leader, just couldn't throw anymore. BB playing him until the end definitely got the Pats a few more wins. That team probably should have picked top 10 as opposed to 15. But that was not Cam's fault at all. Cam was a lot more fun to watch than Mac.
I think there is a huge difference between benching him and cutting him.
I simply don't see any reason for him to have a roster spot. He's not a good teammate. He's not a smart football player. What exactly would he add to the team when benched? He would be a distraction.
Just fucking cut him. There's no point in his being here.
Because there is a cap hit involved. Also there could be a team dumb enough to give you an asset for him thinking they can fix him.
Guys get cut all the time despite cap hits. And no NFL team is giving you anything for him. Maybe the Rhein Fire might take a flyer.
I don't think this will stop them from cutting him. They can always trade him for a swap of 7th round pics or some nonsense. He's probably a useful backup somewhere.
I would love if they cut Jones. Simply for the fact that I’m sick of watching him. I want him off this team, and more importantly, off my TV, because I’m sick of looking at his stupid fucking excuse for QB play every week.
But in all probability, not only is he not getting cut, but he’s probably on the roster in 2024. If he’s cut, they’ll take a $4 million dead cap hit. Then they would either have to either draft a QB high (for a lot of guaranteed money) and/or sign a veteran for somewhere in the $20 million range if they want anyone that’s any good.
I think it’s more likely that Mac & whatever QB they draft will both be on the roster next year.
But then they still have to bring in a veteran QB in free agency if they draft a kid that shouldn’t play right away. They’re not going to spend what it takes to do that.
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Matthew Slater on his message to Mac Jones: “He’s got to stay positive. Right now everybody’s counting him out… you can’t let people who don’t know half of what’s going on in the building, impact what’s going on in the building.”
Matthew Slater on his message to Mac Jones: “He’s got to stay positive. Right now everybody’s counting him out… you can’t let people who don’t know half of what’s going on in the building, impact what’s going on in the building.”
Here it is, the Butt Fumble of interceptions. It actually looks worse than it did live:
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Julian Blackmon intercepts Mac Jones at the goal line!
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Julian Blackmon intercepts Mac Jones at the goal line!
I won't say his NFL career is over. In fact, hitting a bench and being allowed to just learn and grow with no expectations could be really good for his career. I don't think he'll ever start again, but I thought Geno Smith had fallen out of the league before coming to live in Seattle. Weirder things have happened.
They have over $12 million in dead cap this year from Jonnu Smith alone. Hell, they have $2.3 million in dead cap from Jake Bailey.
I think he’s hot garbage too and have no desire to see him play another snap for this team. But there are also logistical and pragmatic reasons to keep him on the roster.
He’s not getting cut now. It’s ridiculous to think he would be. He’s either getting traded in the offseason or brought back with a veteran or a draft pick for an open competition.
These are the Mac Jones' of charts. Not sure which is worse. But when a chart requires you to stare uncomprehendingly at something that can be explained with a simple sentence followed by a bulleted point list....well, just awful.
Sorry...irrelevant I know. Back to busting on Mac....
Holy SHIT. I mean, he's SO fucking open and Mac has PLENTY of space.
I just can't fucking believe after 2 seasons of a bunch of internet morons complaining about him falling backwards instead of stepping into his throws, the man has all the space needed in an NFL pocket to just stand still and loft the ball 20 yards down field to a dude open by 4 yards...and THATS the throw.
With his career in the balance, THATS the throw.
It's not an exaggeration to say any high school QB should make that throw easily. What a fucking disaster.
It's basically saying Pop has great YAC rating, and it appears to be based on his ability to get separation.
I’ve seen little kids in my neighborhood make far better throws playing football in their front yard with friends.
That’s one of the worst NFL throws I’ve ever seen, given the context. No hyperbole.
Easy answer is they figured he would probably either not reach the end zone or gets sacked and fumble and lead to a touchdown...
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Mac made some mind blowing dumb throws today that I actually asked myself if he was doing it purpose as no one at that level should be making passes like that. That’s how terrible he has been. The previous red zone opportunity to the int he should have thrown a pick on the 3rd down pass to Henry. The defender just dropped it.
He does this on 90% of this throws. Every other QB in the league steps into throws when they have time. He’s either flat footed or falling backwards. Combined with the arm strength issue it’s the worst possible combo.
There was no risk of an INT on the play they called.
I was surprised Eisen and JMac spent so much time on this play call, they were even talking about it after the halftime break.
Mac wouldn't have been able to get the ball within ten yards of the end zone. It would've been like asking why not let your kicker line one up from 75 yards out.
The Edmonton Elks were 4-14 this year. Edmonton is very far from Foxboro. Fricking cold too.
I live in Calgary now and if the Stampeders signed him, I wouldn't go.
I currently also don't go. But I would double not go.
It was so badly underthrown that the Colts LB who is five yards in front of Blackmon almost intercepted it as well. Jesus
I was hoping the text of this read worse than the way he actually said it.
Nope.
He’s kind of an ass.
The Rhein Fire went 14-0 this year and won the ELF championship with former Weber State QB Jadrian Clark under center...so probably not.
What's weird is that usually a player with a deficiency tries to compensate in another area. With his weak arm, you'd think Fuc Face would step into everything to get his arm speed up to something close to average. Instead he actually enhances his deficiency.
Zappe in that short window made a play that Fuc Face seemingly can't. About to be sacked, Zappe throws a ball at Stevenson's feet. I'd almost forgotten that the QB can do that. But if Fuc Face continues to start and allows us to draft the next Stroud, I'll retroactively vote for him as this year's MVP. I really wanted to see a montage of BB's, BOB's and RK's reactions to that last Red Zone pick - bad call by the telecast's director.
I don’t think there’s much to be gained by cutting Mac. The season is gone. Bench him, let either Zappe or MC take a swing. Move on after the season.
