Manning Legacy: Scrotal Recall
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Typo. I couldn't decide whether to say "to a Super Bowl" or "to an AFCCG win", so instead I got it wrong.
“@AlbertBreer: Personal statement from Peyton Manning released by the Broncos … https://t.co/O5pJuwzWGF”
Manning's agent has confirmed that Manning's wife received HGH in her name, but claims Peyton wasn't using them. He cited privacy when asked why she was taking them. So we know at least part of the story is true.
Al Jazeera broke the story, IIRC.
Can't imagine that Peyton is the only guy. But if this was true, he's pretty dumb about his illegal drug buying. Must be taking advice from Jim Irsay.
I know we are used to game theading in this forum now but he hasnt won a Superbowl in 9 years ...
Peter king reading it now "startling"
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Peter King Retweeted ryan howell
Reading it now. Startling.
Peter King Verified account @SI_PeterKing Peter King Retweeted ryan howell
Reading it now. Startling.
I love how the media seems to be all "come on now, let's wait until the facts come out", when some were already discussing a possible Super Bowl suspension for Belichick/Brady 30 minutes after the Kravitz tweet. Not that they are wrong in taking this approach in Manning's case.
For fucks sake I was using a little obvious hyperbole to point out the difference in the level of outrage this would likely engender if it was Brady involved. Their lack of jumping the gun, so far, in Manning's case, is the point.
Clay Matthews?!!?
From the article.
“We just used Delta-2 because it wasn’t detectable,” Sly says.
Sly also says that he provided Clay Matthews, Green Bay’s Pro Bowl linebacker, with the prescription painkiller Percocet to help him deal with pain before at least one game. He also brags in one undercover video that Matthews texted him in an attempt to obtain Toradol, a powerful painkiller that is banned in many countries but not in the United States."
From the article.
“We just used Delta-2 because it wasn’t detectable,” Sly says.
Sly also says that he provided Clay Matthews, Green Bay’s Pro Bowl linebacker, with the prescription painkiller Percocet to help him deal with pain before at least one game. He also brags in one undercover video that Matthews texted him in an attempt to obtain Toradol, a powerful painkiller that is banned in many countries but not in the United States."
Count me in the camp That I don't care if he used HGH.
But I found this tweet to funny.
What's a bigger story? That Peyton Manning was doing illegal drgs or that he did NOT get them from Jim Irsay?
But I found this tweet to funny.
What's a bigger story? That Peyton Manning was doing illegal drgs or that he did NOT get them from Jim Irsay?
If this is true, we can rule out one of the benefits of HGH is improving your playoff performance then huh?
A few quick thoughts.
We here jump all over stories when they first break without knowing all the facts almost as fast as ESPN on an anti-Patriots story (of course we don't have the responsibility that a "news" agency does, I just mention this to frame the rest of the thought) so I'm going to wait before I BAHAHA.
If he did use HGH, I understand to a point. We all make bad decisions in life - I certainly have - so I won't judge him too harshly. That said, I'm pretty anti-PEDs/HGHs, etc. It's cheating and, worse, makes many athletes that don't want to use feel like they must to stay competitive. Anyhow, if true, it's bad, but, to me, not anywhere on the same level as, e.g., domestic abuse.
With all that out of the way, here is what I think this story is/should be really about: how do the NFL, ESPN, and other news outlets that character assassinated Brady and the Patriots over nothing, react? I'd break out the popcorn if it wasn't more likely than not that I'd wind up puking it all back up all over myself.
We here jump all over stories when they first break without knowing all the facts almost as fast as ESPN on an anti-Patriots story (of course we don't have the responsibility that a "news" agency does, I just mention this to frame the rest of the thought) so I'm going to wait before I BAHAHA.
If he did use HGH, I understand to a point. We all make bad decisions in life - I certainly have - so I won't judge him too harshly. That said, I'm pretty anti-PEDs/HGHs, etc. It's cheating and, worse, makes many athletes that don't want to use feel like they must to stay competitive. Anyhow, if true, it's bad, but, to me, not anywhere on the same level as, e.g., domestic abuse.
With all that out of the way, here is what I think this story is/should be really about: how do the NFL, ESPN, and other news outlets that character assassinated Brady and the Patriots over nothing, react? I'd break out the popcorn if it wasn't more likely than not that I'd wind up puking it all back up all over myself.
Peter, if only you were a member of a profession whose job it is to investigate such things, maybe then you wouldn't be "startled"... oh wait....Peter king reading it now "startling"
Peter King Retweeted ryan howell
Reading it now. Startling.
HIPPA, man. No one can get around HIPPA. Well, Roger Goodall can, but he won't.
My reaction kind of depends on the dosing and the purpose. At a low dose, hgh has healing properties for some injuries, though it can exacerbate others. At a high dose, it's great for gaining strength and muscle. If he was trying to get over injuries im meh on this, if he was dosing enough to affect his performance then it's the worst thing ever b
I'm a Peyton hater since his days at UT but I do not care about this at all. I would take every drug imaginable if I was a pro athlete and I could beat the test and I viewed the cost benefit favorably.
Going to be a lot more manufactured outrage if this story has legs.
Going to be a lot more manufactured outrage if this story has legs.
The list of FDA approved uses for adults is pretty short. Maybe she's injecting it into her forehead in a gesture of solidarity with Peyton.
Why didn't Peyton just use deer antler spray?
Or follow the magical rehab regimens of Adrian Peterson and Wes Welker?
Or follow the magical rehab regimens of Adrian Peterson and Wes Welker?
No I mean I know what hgh does, I'm curious what her supposed reason would be.
As part of a infertility regimen I injected my first wife with HGH. So its possible that Peyton's Mrs. needed it for reproductive uses.
I didn't work. We got a puppy. Then a divorce.
All true.
[30for30narrationvoice] "What if I told you... there was gambling going on in here?" [/30for30narrationvoice]
Credible sports news organizations don't rush to judgement. Cue Mark Brunell and Mark Schlereth.
ESPN and the NFL will ignore this not just because it's Peyton but because nobody wants to inspire digging into PED use in the league.
Frankly, I think the ESPNFL would try to kill this story if it involved Brady too.
Frankly, I think the ESPNFL would try to kill this story if it involved Brady too.
I love knowing nobody's been popped for hgh since the NFL started testing. Im betting that's most commonly used. And it works best with a test back.
I don't care if he used or not. I can't help but wonder how ESPN and others would report this if it were Brady. Double standard is protecting the favorite son. There would be no " wait until the facts come out"commentary I'm guessing.
Damn, MMSp, that's actually a really good point.
I say "damn" because, if this story has legs, they'll probably manufacture another -gate about the Patriots for distraction.
ESPN would be cutting into regularly scheduled programming if it was Brady. Can barely wait for Tony Dungy and his reaction Sunday night.
Watching the Bob's Auto Body Shit Bowl on WWL right now, and the items in THE LEAD crawl were:
-Blake Griffin torn muscle, out 2 weeks
-Steph Curry named AP Male Athlete of the Year
-Victories by Va Tech and Duke in the Only Our Parents are Watching Bowls
-Hoyer out Sunday
-Kentucky vs Louisville
-Blake Griffin torn muscle, out 2 weeks
-Steph Curry named AP Male Athlete of the Year
-Victories by Va Tech and Duke in the Only Our Parents are Watching Bowls
-Hoyer out Sunday
-Kentucky vs Louisville
I'm fine with the league taking Peyton Manning at his word... if the league is also prepared to take Tom Brady at his word. (Brady, of course, made his statements under oath).
Maybe everything Peyton says is true... but if the level of evidence that triggered the "independent" Wells report against the Patriots and Brady is the league's standard, well, that standard has clearly been met here and there should be a similar league investigation into Manning. I mean, there was HGH in his home. Unlike Brady's case, there is a mountain of evidence that Peyton got a major performance boost around this time - so there is a major unresolved issue of competitive integrity. Beyond that, the league should be prepared to make adverse inferences if Peyton and his wife are anything less than 100% forthcoming on all questions. (If his wife was on HGH, that alone doesn't prove that Peyton was not; indeed one could read it the other way - he had a supply of the stuff in his house, that spells opportunity).
When the league walks balk its foolishness around Brady and drops its appeal of Berman's ruling, then I'll be fine with the league letting this incident go uninvestigated as well.
Maybe everything Peyton says is true... but if the level of evidence that triggered the "independent" Wells report against the Patriots and Brady is the league's standard, well, that standard has clearly been met here and there should be a similar league investigation into Manning. I mean, there was HGH in his home. Unlike Brady's case, there is a mountain of evidence that Peyton got a major performance boost around this time - so there is a major unresolved issue of competitive integrity. Beyond that, the league should be prepared to make adverse inferences if Peyton and his wife are anything less than 100% forthcoming on all questions. (If his wife was on HGH, that alone doesn't prove that Peyton was not; indeed one could read it the other way - he had a supply of the stuff in his house, that spells opportunity).
When the league walks balk its foolishness around Brady and drops its appeal of Berman's ruling, then I'll be fine with the league letting this incident go uninvestigated as well.
I fully expect the NFL to announce that this is clearly an act of domestic terrorism and that the network should be shut down permanently.
Come on guys, it's not like the Colts have any history of prominent people in their organization being involved with illegal drugs, nor do the Broncos have any history of engaging in team-sanctioned acts that compromise the integrity of the game.
There is no reason to mention this charge at all.
There is no reason to mention this charge at all.
Exactly. This has NOTHING to do with Manning, quite frankly. I don't give a rat's ass and honestly don't blame the guy.
This has EVERYTHING to do with what the fuck the NFL, ESPN, Peter King (LOLOLOLOL), and so many others are going to do now. Really, Goodell, you're still gonna try and appeal Brady's decision after this?
Oh this is so glorious! SO GLORIOUS! MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
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