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JM3

JM3

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Pitchers* counting is a bad take & I won't stand for it.

*other than YORDANNY
 
JM3

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View: https://twitter.com/EdHand89/status/1708216385086599449


His:

Middle Infielders
10. Marvin Alcantara (A)
9. Kristian Campbell (A+)
8. Mikey Romero (A+)
7. Eddinson Paulino (A+)
6. Nazzan Zanetello (A)
5. Yoeilin Cespedes (DSL)
4. Chase Meidroth (AA)
3. Brainer Bonaci (AA)
2. Nick Yorke (AA)
1. Marcelo Mayer (AA)
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Mine...

10) Arias #29
9) Meidroth #22
8) Valdez #19
7) Paulino #18
6) Nazzan #15
5) Romero #14
4) Bonaci #13
3) Yorke #11
2) Yoely #8
1) Mayer #1

I have Campbell #27 but don't really consider him a MI prospect.

If Valdez was considered graduated, Anderson at #30 would be next on my list.
 
Lose Remerswaal

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I know it’s easy to ASK, but I’d love it if you put your Top 10 lists in their own thread. I expect they will catch more eyeballs that way, too.

i also think your work deserves more views than just the SoSH prospect geeks . . . .
 
JM3

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Lose Remerswaal said:
I know it’s easy to ASK, but I’d love it if you put your Top 10 lists in their own thread. I expect they will catch more eyeballs that way, too.

i also think your work deserves more views than just the SoSH prospect geeks . . . .
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I'm not really into the top 10s as a concept because there's so much blurring between categories.

I could put them in the prospect thread? Or do you mean like main board? I could put them in the "what does '24 look like threads". I think there are older versions of the lists in the OPs already, though.
 
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JM3

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Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat said:
So what do you think Bonaci's ceiling is?
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I always feel irrationally high on players when we talk ceilings because I view a "ceiling" way differently than SoxProspects does.

Ceiling of a solid utility player with contact skills and positional versatility
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https://soxprospects.com/players/bonaci-brainer.htm

Like why is this ceiling not at least above average starting SS? How is that not the minimum best case scenario for a fluid defender with a +arm who had wRC+ of 124 in Greenville & 117 in Portland when he just turned 21 two months ago?

He is somewhat capped as he isn't actually that fast. He had 28 steals last year, but only 7 this year (caught 4 times). However, he has a pretty advanced approach for his age & if he can add a bit more strength & pop, he has a chance to continue to add power to his game (11 homers in 360 PAs this year after 6 in 494 last year).

Do I think he ever becomes an above average starting shortstop? Probably not most of the time. He's a little bit odd defensively insomuch as he has the arm to be a 3B, but more of the frame to be a 2B & has struggled when put at 3B (4 errors in 13 games the last 2 seasons compared to 14 errors in 78 games at 2B & 12 errors in 79 games at 2B).

He played 3 innings in LF this season & 1 in RF last season. He seems like he could be a competent OF so that may be a useful thing to work into the mix over the next couple years if he does project more as a likely utility player than an everyday starter at any given position, which I think he does, even if that's far from his ceiling.
 
thestardawg

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JM3 said:
I always feel irrationally high on players when we talk ceilings because I view a "ceiling" way differently than SoxProspects does.



https://soxprospects.com/players/bonaci-brainer.htm

Like why is this ceiling not at least above average starting SS? How is that not the minimum best case scenario for a fluid defender with a +arm who had wRC+ of 124 in Greenville & 117 in Portland when he just turned 21 two months ago?

He is somewhat capped as he isn't actually that fast. He had 28 steals last year, but only 7 this year (caught 4 times). However, he has a pretty advanced approach for his age & if he can add a bit more strength & pop, he has a chance to continue to add power to his game (11 homers in 360 PAs this year after 6 in 494 last year).

Do I think he ever becomes an above average starting shortstop? Probably not most of the time. He's a little bit odd defensively insomuch as he has the arm to be a 3B, but more of the frame to be a 2B & has struggled when put at 3B (4 errors in 13 games the last 2 seasons compared to 14 errors in 78 games at 2B & 12 errors in 79 games at 2B).

He played 3 innings in LF this season & 1 in RF last season. He seems like he could be a competent OF so that may be a useful thing to work into the mix over the next couple years if he does project more as a likely utility player than an everyday starter at any given position, which I think he does, even if that's far from his ceiling.
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I believe the folks at soxprospects actually have been to scout school. I’m guessing that no one here has and that’s why their projections are going to be more accurate than ours.
scouting the stat line can be dangerous. I’d imagine if one was simply scouting the stat line for Roman Anthony through may of this year you’d wonder why he was such a bust.
 
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thestardawg said:
I believe the folks at soxprospects actually have been to scout school. I’m guessing that no one here has and that’s why their projections are going to be more accurate than ours.
scouting the stat line can be dangerous. I’d imagine if one was simply scouting the stat line for Roman Anthony through may of this year you’d wonder why he was such a bust.
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Cool story? Most of the time they end up moving people to where I already had them. Probably something to do with bureaucracy. & not sure what that has to do with different definitions of ceilings?

Obviously they have a ton more insight than me & actually watch games in person & stuff & their work is awesome & I couldn't do what I do without them.
 
JM3

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This is all a nice reminder to me, too. I try to keep the threads 90% positive, but maybe I should be aiming even higher.

No one is trying to fail.
 
JM3

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Having a guy who played 26 games on your All Star Team makes one curious about the criteria, but it's hard to say no to TEEL.

Catcher: Kyle Teel
It is difficult for a recent draftee to be recognized as an All-Star due to the smaller sample size compared with players who have been in the organization for the whole season. But Teel was that good in his six weeks in the system. Teel was drafted with the 14th overall pick out of the University of Virginia and debuted in the FCL on August 3rd. After reaching base in five of his nine plate appearances over three games, he was promoted to High-A Greenville. The South Atlantic League offered little challenge for the 21-year-old as he hit .377/.485/.453 over 14 games. This earned him a promotion to Double-A Portland, where he finished the year by batting .323/.462/.484 in nine games with the Sea Dogs. He hit .363/.483/.495 across the three levels, with 21 walks to 22 strikeouts over 114 plate appearances. Maybe most importantly, he looked like a plus defensive catcher with pop times consistently around 1.9 seconds. He is already a top-5 prospect in the system, and he has an outside chance to help the major league team as soon as next year if his bat continues to develop.
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