Paige is all class. Much respect for how he handled post game. Maybe he should head to Charlotte to teach Cam Newton.
DUDE.... where is your time travel machine?Villanova 76 UNC 73. Arch is MOP. Toughness over McDonalds AA's.
I thought he was going for a "Giants win the pennant!" vibe. Which I wouldn't deny him, given the drama. But he was in far less hysterics than he should have been, given the moment - the teamstream call is the best of the bunch I think (unless you count Barkley). Those guys were shouting themselves hoarse and tearing up in joy."Cats win it all! Cats win it all! Cats win it all!"
Is reminiscent of a certain Dave O'Brien call...
I think he's making it up. He turned to walk toward Williams pretty quickly.I agree, although in his post-game he said he was worried about checking with the refs about the time to see if they would have to defend against one last shot attempt from UNC.
But the "bang" was awesome.
It's both. Poor defense and great execution. Not sure why the former can't be discussed.You can nitpick the inbounds defending, but in the end it was perfect execution by Villanova. Jenkins running his ass off to get in position to take that shot was awesome.
Amen to that!Second greatest 77-74 win by Big East Team over an ACC Team in NCAA tournament final ever!
It can be, but saying it was poor defense is wrong. I think UNC played that whole sequence the way it should have been played. The first responsibility on that play in a tie game is the ball. You can't let Arch drive to the basket for a layup in any circumstance. You also don't want to get too close to any player and risk a foul either. That's why any closeout had to be taking with caution. If I'm Roy, I can live with them making a 3 for the win versus a layup.It's both. Poor defense and great execution. Not sure why the former can't be discussed.
Yup. The value of having a 4 year senior handle the ball at a crucial moment. Plenty of kids would have forced up a horrible shot. Shit, plenty of pros would have as well.In thinking about it again, I can't believe he passed. What an amazing assist. Ball in your hands, chance to take the shot you've dreamed about your whole life, and it sounds as though the play was one where he had discretion. I guess in the moment you don't think about it. I mean, if your internal clock isn't exactly right and you pass and the buzzer goes off, you're a goat. Even though Jenkins is a better long range shooter (barely) and shoots them more often, an awful lot of players would have shot.
Either posters are too young to have absorbed it or too old to retain it but there was like a 8 year stretch in the 80's and early 90's(?) where nearly every Championship Game was at the time considered the greatest championship game ever. I have no dogs in either fight but last night to me maybe is a borderline Top-5.I think 2008 Kansas/Memphis was better, two #1 seeds with six or seven future NBA players between them including the #1 pick and future MVP Derrick Rose, and a game that went to OT after a sick Chalmers 3 to tie it before Kansas pulled away in OT.
This one was almost certainly top 3 or 5, though.
It depends on the standard by which you judge.Either posters are too young to have absorbed it or too old to retain it but there was like a 8 year stretch in the 80's and early 90's(?) where nearly every Championship Game was at the time considered the greatest championship game ever. I have no dogs in either fight but last night to me maybe is a borderline Top-5.
* Michigan's Rumeal Robinson OT game over Seton Hall
* UNC's Michael Jordan game winner after Georgetown's Fred Brown inadvertently passed to Worthy.
* Indiana's Keith Smart game winner over Syracuse (I was in New Orleans in the 10th row for that shot after Cuse beat my Pitino-led Friars)
* The Villanova upset over Ewing and the Hoyas.
* Valvano's NC State upset over Phi Slama Jamma on the Lorenzo Charles dunk off Whittenburgs 35 foot heave.
* Scottie Thurman's game winner over Duke
I can accept bumping last nights game into the bottom tier of these 6 games but not past many of them.
MJ's game winner was before Fred Brown's throwawayEither posters are too young to have absorbed it or too old to retain it but there was like a 8 year stretch in the 80's and early 90's(?) where nearly every Championship Game was at the time considered the greatest championship game ever. I have no dogs in either fight but last night to me maybe is a borderline Top-5.
* Michigan's Rumeal Robinson OT game over Seton Hall
* UNC's Michael Jordan game winner after Georgetown's Fred Brown inadvertently passed to Worthy.
* Indiana's Keith Smart game winner over Syracuse (I was in New Orleans in the 10th row for that shot after Cuse beat my Pitino-led Friars)
* The Villanova upset over Ewing and the Hoyas.
* Valvano's NC State upset over Phi Slama Jamma on the Lorenzo Charles dunk off Whittenburgs 35 foot heave.
* Scottie Thurman's game winner over Duke
I can accept bumping last nights game into the bottom tier of these 6 games but not past many of them.
See. This is what happens when you get old.MJ's game winner was before Fred Brown's throwaway
Which of those had a ball in the air with no time left on the clock?Either posters are too young to have absorbed it or too old to retain it but there was like a 8 year stretch in the 80's and early 90's(?) where nearly every Championship Game was at the time considered the greatest championship game ever. I have no dogs in either fight but last night to me maybe is a borderline Top-5.
* Michigan's Rumeal Robinson OT game over Seton Hall
* UNC's Michael Jordan game winner after Georgetown's Fred Brown inadvertently passed to Worthy.
* Indiana's Keith Smart game winner over Syracuse (I was in New Orleans in the 10th row for that shot after Cuse beat my Pitino-led Friars)
* The Villanova upset over Ewing and the Hoyas.
* Valvano's NC State upset over Phi Slama Jamma on the Lorenzo Charles dunk off Whittenburgs 35 foot heave.
* Scottie Thurman's game winner over Duke
I can accept bumping last nights game into the bottom tier of these 6 games but not past many of them.
The quality of play is why I cited Kansas/Memphis, with six or seven eventual NBA players between the two teams including the #1 pick in Rose. The highest rated player in last night's game on Chad Ford's board is Brice Johnson at #29, and that is in a horrible draft year.Taking into account both the quality of play and the level of drama, you can definitely make a case for last night's game as the best championship game in my lifetime.
I am old enough to have seen all of those live, and very few of them featured two great teams playing very well. They were all obviously exceedingly close, but too often people (not saying you) confuse close games with great games. Last night IMO was a really good college game, even if it lacked top level future NBA-level talent. I'd also put it ahead of most of the games listed above, but I'm still voting for Memphis/Kansas unless someone reminds me of a better one.Either posters are too young to have absorbed it or too old to retain it but there was like a 8 year stretch in the 80's and early 90's(?) where nearly every Championship Game was at the time considered the greatest championship game ever. I have no dogs in either fight but last night to me maybe is a borderline Top-5.
* Michigan's Rumeal Robinson OT game over Seton Hall
* UNC's Michael Jordan game winner after Georgetown's Fred Brown inadvertently passed to Worthy.
* Indiana's Keith Smart game winner over Syracuse (I was in New Orleans in the 10th row for that shot after Cuse beat my Pitino-led Friars)
* The Villanova upset over Ewing and the Hoyas.
* Valvano's NC State upset over Phi Slama Jamma on the Lorenzo Charles dunk off Whittenburgs 35 foot heave.
* Scottie Thurman's game winner over Duke
Likewise one cannot enjoy watching the NBA Finals because none of those players will every play in a better league than the NBA when they leave the NBA.The quality of play is why I cited Kansas/Memphis, with six or seven eventual NBA players between the two teams including the #1 pick in Rose. The highest rated player in last night's game on Chad Ford's board is Brice Johnson at #29, and that is in a horrible draft year.
I'm a big fan of good women basketball. But the UConn women, as great as they are, would get absolutely pounded by a good D3 men's team. They'd get beat by a bottom barrel D1 team by 60-80 points minimum. It would not be close.I would buy tickets to watch this year's UConn team play against a good D3 men's team, a middling D2 team, or a bottom-barrel D1 team. They might win the first two, and the third would be entertaining enough it wouldn't matter that they'd lose by 20.
Maybe they'd want to start with lesser competition, but if they'd like to do a for-charity victory tour against some low-end D3 or D2 men's teams, I'm sure as shit watching, if not buying tickets.A team of men in USA jerseys surrounds the court as the women practice. They are former college players from schools in the Pacific Northwest and usually convene as a practice squad against the WNBA’s Seattle Storm. They are called on to run some offensive and defensive sets against the women. “The first time I played against them, I thought I could do whatever,” says Marlon Bailey, a 6-foot-5 guard who played at Edmonds Community College. “Nope. They’re that good.” To drive the point home, all 6-foot-6 of Sylvia Fowles nearly eviscerates one of the men on the first possession with a hearty, solid screen.
http://www.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/articles/greatest_title_games_in_ncaa_basketball_history/s1_13132_20624080Yeah, that's exactly the same thing, and as you made quite clear, you're not biased at all.
Yeah that would be fun. I have played against some of the best women's players personally and I can tell you they're really good. But consider this college - Endicott College, who finished first in their D3 conference. Not the best D3 team in the country, but a pretty good one. I saw them play twice this year and they have three players who would have their way with UConn. Their point guard is as quick as Jefferson, but he's three inches taller and about 50 pounds heavier, and would kill her. Their center is 6'7" and outweighs Stewart by about 40 pounds and would dunk right over her. He's skilled too. They could run out a front line of 6'7", 6'6", and 6'5", so their 6'5" player would have to be guarded by a UConn player 5 inches and 50 pounds smaller.I remember reading somewhere that a california D2 team was retained in their offseason to practice against the USA Basketball women's team a few years ago, and that at first they took it light and playfully, but then realized "these girls can ball!", and by the end of the practice were absolutely going balls-to-the-wall to make sure the women didn't beat them, in which I believe they succeeded. I wish I could find the article that described the event.
I did find one D3 coach who thinks his team would lose unless it got a full roster of scholarship players, which at the time it didn't.
edit: I'm not sure this Grantland article is it, but it does have some choice quotes...
Maybe they'd want to start with lesser competition, but if they'd like to do a for-charity victory tour against some low-end D3 or D2 men's teams, I'm sure as shit watching, if not buying tickets.