NBA 2014-2015 Game Thread
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The Rockets fell ass backwards into Trevor Ariza at a great price. If Howard keeps playing like this and Beverley stays healthy, they can play with anyone.
Their depth at the 1 and the 5 is really a problem however.
Their depth at the 1 and the 5 is really a problem however.
Cavs currently down 80-69 vs Portland in the beginning of the 4th. They are not working together on offense or defense, led by an awful 2-12 effort by Kyrie. Outside of Lebron and Varejao this is a team full of guys used to freelancing for their own stats.
EDIT: Cavs fall 101-82. They will improve on offense, but I'm not so sure about their defense. Portland couldn't find their 3 point range and still hit 49.3% overall. Until Love, Dion Waiters and Kyrie decide to start playing defense I'm not going to buy into this team being a good defensively.
EDIT: Cavs fall 101-82. They will improve on offense, but I'm not so sure about their defense. Portland couldn't find their 3 point range and still hit 49.3% overall. Until Love, Dion Waiters and Kyrie decide to start playing defense I'm not going to buy into this team being a good defensively.
moly99 said:
I truly love when people try to provide insight into the inner workings of other people's minds...
Sure, Love and Kyrie are used to "freelancing", but they also had basically no choice. Give them time to adapt. KG/Pierce/Allen is the exception, not the rule.
Love's incredibly efficient 19 points and 10 boards on 12 shots is definitely the reason their offense has been bad tonight.moly99 said:
Blacken said:
I've never been a Batum guy. In fact, if they were smart - they'd put him on the market and get that one more guy. Batum is never going to be the guy the Blazers wish he would be.
The first 30 games are their exhibition season. I wouldn't bother over analyzing the Cavs right now. We've seen this movie before with both successful and unsuccessful results. They will be fine long term.moly99 said:
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HomeRunBaker said:
That was kind of my point when I said that their offense will get better.
Love shot well (and Kyrie and Waiters missed a bunch of open shots they will probably hit in later games) but the collective group is used to being the number one option. People expecting them to be the best offensive team of all time right out of the gate. . . http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/86328-2014-5-cavs-greatest-offense-ever/ . . . had unrealistic expectations.
I think they really need to start Marion instead of Waiters. Waiters is shooting every time he gets the ball without looking to find Love and Lebron. He would be better used as a sixth man.
I'm still not convinced on the defensive side, though. People are hammering Lebron on twitter for not doing more defensively, but no one player in the world could guard Aldritch and Lillard at the same time.
Re the Portland/Cavs game last night, the Blazers announcers said that Rip City played one of their best defensive games "in years" last night. I don't know if that is, in fact, true however except for Love, Cleveland's offense looked muddled and confused. I wouldn't worry about them though. By the time April rolls around, they will likely be a machine. HRB is right - these games are essentially just dress rehearsal.
Cavs had 6 assists on 30 FGs tonight. No assists for Irving and he took 23 shots.
They really should have tried to move Irving for Love instead of Wiggins. He might be this generations Steve Francis.
They really should have tried to move Irving for Love instead of Wiggins. He might be this generations Steve Francis.
Draymond Green really does NOT like the Clippers. And I didn't think it was possible for me to love him more.
Draymond Green fucking owns Blake Griffin. He is in his head even from game seven of last year's first round.
ElUno20 said:
Well, I know you didn't want to be correct on this one but it was right. I expect the next game down at Staples will be a lot more competitive.
The Clippers problem is that outside of their top tier of players they are severely lacking in talent. This is not a deep team at all. Aside from last night they are pretty much playing to their ability.......Blake is playing out of his mind, Crawford has been on fire, Paul is Paul, DeAndre does what DeAndre does and the bench is godawful.
One or more of their top guys go down the Celtics will have two lottery picks this summer. I love Doc but I'm watching to root for whoever they are going up against each night. This is not a 56-57 win team as their record showed the past two years......they were big overachievers while staying relatively healthy. We could be the beneficiary of the Clips regressing to their mean this year.
One or more of their top guys go down the Celtics will have two lottery picks this summer. I love Doc but I'm watching to root for whoever they are going up against each night. This is not a 56-57 win team as their record showed the past two years......they were big overachievers while staying relatively healthy. We could be the beneficiary of the Clips regressing to their mean this year.
HomeRunBaker said:
Rooting for another team to suck is a truly exhilirating and frustrating experience. Did it two years in a row as a Bruins fan rooting against the terrible Maple Leafs. Ignoring any potential trades, at the end of this run we'll be doing this for five years in a row. Amazing.
I have little expectations that the Clippers will implode this year so anything resembling such will be a great surprise. I'm actually enjoying the beginning of the Nets demise which I went on record two summers ago as being very excited about. It is going precisely as planned.....just keep on doing what you're doing. Stars age, Lopez done early, lose what I feel was a tremendous asset in Kidd. Stay the course Brooklyn.....stay the course.Jed Zeppelin said:
I was at the Jazz-Cavs game last night and I just want to make people aware that Hayward is going to live up to that contract. Not just because of the game winner, although he did show no regard for human life, but his defense on Lebron was great all night (despite his 31 points, Hayward played him one-on-one for much of the night without double teams and shut him down a bunch of times), the offense flowed 100% better with him on the floor, he's creating his own shots and facilitating others, he just looks in control. I have very high hopes for him this year.
I was there too. Perfect night, a sell out crowd (still a few too many empty seats) got to see the greatness of LeBron that they paid to see, yet still enjoy the satisfaction of a buzzer-beater...and that was just the last 15 seconds.
And the bright spots for the Jazz were more than just Hayward. Favors looked good, Gobert is a fun-to-watch freak of nature, and Exum wasn't a shit-show.
And the bright spots for the Jazz were more than just Hayward. Favors looked good, Gobert is a fun-to-watch freak of nature, and Exum wasn't a shit-show.
I was surprised to see that Exum played more minutes that Burke last night but I'm not disappointed. He didn't fill up the stat line but he also didn't look like the game was moving to fast for him. And he's such a dynamic athelete that it wouldn't surprise me to see Exum start in front of Burke by the time the season is over. And yeah, Favors looks like he's made big progress as well. I know it's only a handful of games and difficult times are ahead, but I think this team will surprise some people.
Have to disagree. The stats look great but outside of DJ and Crawford, the other guys you've listed have been inconsistent. Defensively, i dont know how paul and blake keep skating by the media but they are shit. Paul talks and shows a good game on that end but he is shit when it comes to doing his job on that end, guarding the point guard. He's too slow. Blake, abysmal, he doesnt even give the effort where i can say he's shit. He's just a ghost on that end.HomeRunBaker said:
It isnt a new development though. Doc will right the regular season ship but no team that plays defense the way they do will ever do anything when it counts. And i love the clippers but thats the truth.
Last thought, blake has added the worst possible shot to his game, the long 2, lets see how long his dumbass takes to realizes he should be shooting 3s instead.
Blake hit a 3 the other night so he's getting there. Like all other offensive stars who are asked to carry the load they have to pick their spots defensively. We had seen this for years with Pierce, Ray Allen went through same in Seattle, Kobe in LA, Love in Minny, etc. The Clips lack of depth offensively is a primary cause of their poor defense.ElUno20 said:
No, I'm with you a bit. But ive watched every minute of this kids' career, i can count on one hand the times he's even looked interested in defending. I dont even care that he's bad at it, the effort just needs to be there.
Cp for example, very overrated defensively but he puts the effort in.
Cp for example, very overrated defensively but he puts the effort in.
Well, Burke had a good game, too, but he got into a little foul trouble early, so I am guessing that's why Exum got him minutes.jschip1 said:
Agreed. I'm having trouble seeing who might be available at a decent price who could fit into that hole. Like, Barnes/Farmar for Pierce works (and warms my withered Paul Pierce fan heart), but I don't know if they can shovel enough picks to make Washington take that hit. I think Philly's going to move K.J. McDaniels before he gets paid (and paid and paid), but I don't think the Clips have anything that they'd want either.ElUno20 said:
The game of the NBA early season is being played now. Spurs at the Warriors at Oracle. Early on, it seems the Warriors are planning to get Harrison Barnes off as they have run three plays for him. Unlike Mark Jackson's isos for Barnes, Steve Kerr's plays involve having Barnes cut to the rack.
50-44 Spurs at the half. The Warriors are a turn-over machine right now with nine in the first half.
The Spurs take down the Warriors in Oakland 113-100. And on the second game of the back-to-back. The Spurs are just amazing as their defense and machine like passing show Golden State that they have some work to do. It didn't help that David Lee, his rebounding and his scoring weren't available but until Golden State beats San Antonio, they are just an also-ran.
Tony Parker led the Spurs with 28 points on 11-17 shooting and the Spurs had eight offensive rebounds to the Dubs one. Parker also played lockdown defense on Steph Curry who failed to hit a three pointer for the first time in 76 games and was just 7-18 with 16 points.
Tony Parker led the Spurs with 28 points on 11-17 shooting and the Spurs had eight offensive rebounds to the Dubs one. Parker also played lockdown defense on Steph Curry who failed to hit a three pointer for the first time in 76 games and was just 7-18 with 16 points.
In the 2nd game of a back to back, the Blazers put up a measly 84 point first-half in Denver. What a clinic. The Blazer bench is looking much improved.
Roy Hibbert has been excellent this season for an Indiana team that hasn't earned a lot of wins, but always puts up a fight. They beat Miami tonight 81-75, with Hibbert putting up a 16-15-2 with 3 blocks and holding Bosh to 9 points and 2 boards on 3-13 shooting. Hibbert is averaging 14-8-3.5 this season and really putting in work on both sides of the floor.
What an awesome strategy! Embarrassing to the city and the league. They should be relocated to London.Kliq said: