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He's doing it again!
 
Steph Curry is 7-8 (5-5 from 3pt land) with 23 points and there is still 2:38 left in  the first half
 

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Well, that will likely be it for Curry as the Warriors outscored the Magic 27-13 in the third.  If so he will finish with a measly 28 points on 9-13 shooting (6-8 from downtown) with 8 assists and 5 boards in just under 24 minutes played.  Time for the Mo Speights campaign for sixth man of the year to keep rolling along and for the rest of the bench to get more reps.  
 

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I don't want to say the Knicks also lack a go-to scorer but their final full shot clock possession of the game down 1 resulted in a runner by Samuel Dalembert.
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
I don't want to say the Knicks also lack a go-to scorer but their final full shot clock possession of the game down 1 resulted in a runner by Samuel Dalembert.
 
The Knicks lack pretty much everything except a go-to scorer, Melo is hurt and missed tonight. 
 

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jon abbey said:
 
The Knicks lack pretty much everything except a go-to scorer, Melo is hurt and missed tonight. 
I was mocking Fisher running a regular set on an end of game possession with the result being that. On their final possession they ran iso for JR Smith who created space and sent the game into OT with a jumper. Sorry for confusion.

Oh and Derek called a timeout from the bench with a minute to go which mitigated his teams secondary break that resulted in a layup. Good times in NY.
 

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This is kind of who he always was, isn't it? He's always been the PF/C equivalent of a gunner--his career average is 6.5 FGA per game in 15.7 minutes a game. It seems Kerr's system has some room for him to do some work. He's also hitting 60% of his shots, which sure doesn't hurt.

His minutes are slightly down this year, but his shooting's even higher than normal. That's pretty good--with the way he plays, my feeling is that he'd overstay his welcome with more minutes. A man can only shoot so many times when Steph Curry is on the floor.
 

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Blacken said:
This is kind of who he always was, isn't it? He's always been the PF/C equivalent of a gunner--his career average is 6.5 FGA per game in 15.7 minutes a game. It seems Kerr's system has some room for him to do some work. He's also hitting 60% of his shots, which sure doesn't hurt.

His minutes are slightly down this year, but his shooting's even higher than normal. That's pretty good--with the way he plays, my feeling is that he'd overstay his welcome with more minutes. A man can only shoot so many times when Steph Curry is on the floor.
Yeah offense was never an issue for Speights he could score in this league the day he was drafted. He could never get big minutes because he has an awful understanding of defensive schemes when he was younger which is critical for bigs in today's game. I haven't seen much of him the past two years so maybe be has become passable so he can see regular rotation minutes on a good team.
 

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So, do you like offense, and hate defense?
 
Turn on the LAL/MIN game.
 
91-85 in the 3rd. Both teams shooting over 56%.
 

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Blacken said:
This is kind of who he always was, isn't it? He's always been the PF/C equivalent of a gunner--his career average is 6.5 FGA per game in 15.7 minutes a game. It seems Kerr's system has some room for him to do some work. He's also hitting 60% of his shots, which sure doesn't hurt.

His minutes are slightly down this year, but his shooting's even higher than normal. That's pretty good--with the way he plays, my feeling is that he'd overstay his welcome with more minutes. A man can only shoot so many times when Steph Curry is on the floor.
 
He has bailed the Warriors out on two occasions in the past week though.  I think he has actually improved that mid-range elbow jumper as he mentioned during the post-game that he has been working hard on it.  He also showed up to camp in shape this season as opposed to last year when he came in overweight.  
 
Insofar as tonight's Warriors/Hornets game is concerned this is the sort of game that last season's Golden State team would have lost.  Tonight, however, they played lock-down defense in the fourth quarter and Mo Buckets went off.  

Also, this is apparently a thing with the Warriors as they have done this on their past two plane rides.
 
Re HRB's post, Speights is a liability on defense but he appears to have improved a bit from last season.  He is still a liability against high-end front-line starters but he can hold his own against the rest.  
 

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Might get OT at the staples. Pace fell off a bit, only 119 a piece.
Also if you only watched this game you'd think Zach Lavine was a shoo in for ROY.
 
Edit- Swaggy P fouls with 2.8 left. Thad Young goes 1 for 2. Not gonna get OT.,..
 
That was fun, high scoring, came down the the last play, Lakers lose, and Kobe misses two big FTs as the lead slips away, then misses the final shot with a chance to win it.
 

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I hate to admit it but I have moved into the Swaggy P fanclub. He makes the Lakers more fun to watch and that just pained me to type those words...
 

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Speights has played really well on offense recently, but I don't think you can count on him to play big minutes in crunch time in big games because he is such a liability on defense. He couldn't even guard Cody Zelller.
 

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I'm in full Kobe mode. I want him to win the scoring title (he's in first right now!) while they lose all the games. This is so fun to watch that I feel he just needs some hardware for it.
 

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heh.
 
The Clippers seem to be playing better, too. 5-1 on the road trip headed to Utah. A win there and a 6-1 trip puts them on the upswing, even if it wasn't great competition. They did get killed by Memphis, who I have to agree look really good this season.
 

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The Memphis loss sucks but a win against the jazz and a 6-1 road trip would be a success even with the shit opponents.

Still think they need a legit wing player. I love JJ and his great hair and sharpshooting but he's too much of a specialist to be starting. I wish they could package him and crap and take on Stephenson
 

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Warriors are now 14-2 and tied for the best record with the Grizzlies after beating the Pistons in Detroit 104-93.  Draymond Green led the way in his old hometown with 20 points on 7-13 shooting (5-8 from downtown).  Warriors have now won nine straight including five on the road during this trip.  They are number one in defensive rating and number seven in offensive rating.  They are number one in net rating too.
 

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Durant coming back after taking pretty much the minimum time off for his fractured right foot (6 weeks). God, watching him over the next few months is going to be like watching Gronk times 5. Best of luck to him.
 

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They're not going to catch the top 7 teams in the West, so it's a race for them to leapfrog Phx, NO, Sac, and Denver (who are 8-2 over their last 10, and leading Port tonight). It looks like OKC will get beat by NO tonight -- granted it's KD's first night back, but it is a sign that it won't be easy to jump over all of those teams.
 

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On a more analytical note, Steve Kerr had Andrew Bogut defend the inbound on the Magic with the Warriors up by one and 2.2 seconds to go.  The Magic (who played an amazing game led by Oladipo and O'Quinn with great performances - the latter was a revelation) threw the ball away.  Andrew Bogut is a fucking force of nature.  Steve Kerr and his staff have been nothing short of fantastic thus far.
 

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I know its the NBA and all, but Rose's shot tonight had to do a little bit more with luck than skill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6VBPERFq7I
 

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Actually Rose had good enough form, excellent touch, and enough separation from his defender to get the shot off. When you play enough games and go through enough practices (and have enough talent),  you can make shots like that.
 

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Curtis Pride said:
Actually Rose had good enough form, excellent touch, and enough separation from his defender to get the shot off. When you play enough games and go through enough practices (and have enough talent),  you can make shots like that.
 
Getting that shot off certainly required skill and athleticism.  
 
But he missed his target by 2 feet and the ball still went in.  That part was definitely luck.
 

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Getting that shot off certainly required skill and athleticism.  
 
But he missed his target by 2 feet and the ball still went in.  That part was definitely luck.
 
It was a bank shot. Perhaps it was where Rose intended to put it. Skill.
 

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It was a bank shot. Perhaps it was where Rose intended to put it. Skill.
Is that a joke? You're either being sarcastic or have never played basketball before.

He didn't intend to bank in a three pointer.
 

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Is that a joke? You're either being sarcastic or have never played basketball before.

He didn't intend to bank in a three pointer.
 
He was shooting from the top of the key. It's the one spot he could afford to be long, as long as the shot was on line. If he was shooting from the side, he would have no margin for error. This way he could be long and still make he shot. And he'd rather be long than short.
 
As it was, he had to shoot over a defender, so he put more into in the ball for a higher trajectory. And sometimes a shorter player would use the backboard to shoot over   a taller player. So, yes it is possible that it was a bank shot by design.
 

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Curtis Pride said:
 
He was shooting from the top of the key. It's the one spot he could afford to be long, as long as the shot was on line. If he was shooting from the side, he would have no margin for error. This way he could be long and still make he shot. And he'd rather be long than short.
 
As it was, he had to shoot over a defender, so he put more into in the ball for a higher trajectory. And sometimes a shorter player would use the backboard to shoot over   a taller player. So, yes it is possible that it was a bank shot by design.
There is a difference between knowing that if you miss, it's better to miss long, than actually trying bank in the shot.
 

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https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/540312417272885248
 

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So, right now, not future value, who is the best player on PHI?
I'm thinking it might be Alexy Shved, who was a 6th or 7th man on a bad team last year.
 

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So, right now, not future value, who is the best player on PHI?
I'm thinking it might be Alexy Shved, who was a 6th or 7th man on a bad team last year.
My numbers say it's Shved, and it's not close. I have him at -0.77/100 possessions. Nobody else is close. KJ McDaniels is 2nd, but way behind. For comparison, the Timberwolves, the 2nd worst team in the NBA, grade out with five players better than anyone on the 76ers (although Martin and Rubio are hurt).
 

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I get a bit tired of all the Golden State cheerleading here, but have to say watching them tonight, Steve Kerr deserves a ton of credit -- that is a beautiful team to watch execute their offense.
 

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Eh--if anything, the praise Golden State gets here is soft-pedaling it compared to what you hear from league and media people. This team is fucking amazing offensively and still suffocating defensively (pray for Bogut's...well, everything). They're in that area where coming up with something to criticize them over is gonna just be picking nits.

Steve Kerr's got things happening. Moral of the story, to hell with Mark Jarkson.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnVvh6lmujA&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop


LAC call
 

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Because the world doesn't make sense and appears to be comprised of a string of random events with no order, the Jazz ended a nine-game losing streak by beating the Spurs on the second night of a back-to-back (the Jazz were).  Gordon Hayward and Derrick Favors won't make the All-Star team this year because the Jazz suck and the West is loaded, but they have both become All-Star caliber players.  And A Message to You Rudy Gobert is a defensive force.  The Jazz are getting better, I think.
 

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In addition to the strides GS and Memphis have made, the West is even better this season because the teams that were cupcakes last year (SAC, Utah, NO to a lesser extent) are much improved and can give anybody a tough game. Really only the Lakers and Minnesota are real punching bags. 
 

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Yep, tough break on Cousins for Sacramento -- they're very competitive with him, but unless he comes back soon and strong they'll fall too far back to be part of the race for the #8 slot. That's going to be a hell of a race!
 

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I don't think race for no. 8 will be all that compelling now that Westbrook and Durant are back.  I expect that OKC will have a firm grasp on the 8th seed by the beginning of the year and I don't see any of 1-7 falling back.