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dcdrew10

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I dunno...I feel like this would be very beneficial mentally. I mean, sensory deprivation tanks are a thing, and I know that many people swear by certain meditation techniques like the ones where you can't talk during the entire duration of like a week. I, personally, would love to try it, and have wanted to try a sensory deprivation tank for a while now, but the local spa that had some burned down recently. I mean, Rodgers might be a nut, but I don't think this particular thing is so crazy.
I loathe pseudo-science BS (I work in public health and used to be a vaccine safety researcher, so that's where I am coming from), but I have used sensory deprivation tanks before and they've helped me relax and made thinking more clear for me. Though it's generally for an hour at a time, not 4 days.
 

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Right, sensory deprivation tanks for a hour? Sure. Locking yourself in a house in pitch black for four days while someone passes you food through a slot? Fucking nuts.
 

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I dunno...I feel like this would be very beneficial mentally. I mean, sensory deprivation tanks are a thing, and I know that many people swear by certain meditation techniques like the ones where you can't talk during the entire duration of like a week. I, personally, would love to try it, and have wanted to try a sensory deprivation tank for a while now, but the local spa that had some burned down recently. I mean, Rodgers might be a nut, but I don't think this particular thing is so crazy.
All true. But isn't a visit to a tank an hour or 2?

I have heard that things like dark or silent retreats are for very experienced practitioners of particular branches of yoga and the like. Marketing it to more mainstream stress reduction does seem to bring @Kliq's concern into play. I dont know where Rodgers fits in.
 
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I dunno...I feel like this would be very beneficial mentally. I mean, sensory deprivation tanks are a thing, and I know that many people swear by certain meditation techniques like the ones where you can't talk during the entire duration of like a week. I, personally, would love to try it, and have wanted to try a sensory deprivation tank for a while now, but the local spa that had some burned down recently. I mean, Rodgers might be a nut, but I don't think this particular thing is so crazy.
Yeah I am no fan of woofuckery, and Rodgers subscribes to plenty, but this basically sounds like a short, more intense silent retreat. I mean, logically speaking, meditation can be infinitely more sane than prayer, in that it doesn’t require an imaginary friend. And yet if Rodgers said he was gonna pray on it few people would bat an eye.
 

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What an incredible grift it is for whoever is making money off of locking rich people in a dark room and giving them the absolute barest of necessities and spinning it as some sort of mystical healing nonsense. Can I start one of these? Any SoSH'ers want to invest?
Somewhere in the afterlife, Mike Leach is claiming vindication.
 

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I just wonder whether going into sensory deprivation for four days is more likely to lead you to a clear decision or is more likely to lead you to a batshit crazy decision.

I guess we will see!
 

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What an incredible grift it is for whoever is making money off of locking rich people in a dark room and giving them the absolute barest of necessities and spinning it as some sort of mystical healing nonsense. Can I start one of these? Any SoSH'ers want to invest?
How is it a grift.
 

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All true. But isn't a visit to a tank an hour or 2?

I have heard that things like dark or silent retreats are for very experienced practitioners of particular branches of yoga and the like. Marketing it to more mainstream stress reduction does seem to bring @Kliq's concern into play. I dont know where Rodgers fits in.
I know that both my sister and my mother attended a week-long silent retreat (Vipassana I think it was), and neither are experienced practitioners, and both of them got something out of it (vastly different things interestingly enough). I, for one, don't think it's for me, and yes, I think being stuck in a dark room for 4 days with no interactions would drive me insane, but I've also stuck myself in a room with the newest Harry Potter book and 2 dozen Krispy Kreme donuts for a weekend and I didn't go crazy, so who knows?
I'm just saying it's not a grift, and it's up the people trying it to see what they get out of it. I don't especially subscribe to belief that it will do anything, but I can see why it would.
 

scott bankheadcase

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Here's the full piece from USA Today: https://sports.yahoo.com/russell-wilsons-why-not-foundation-174735657.html#

I have no doubt this will be blamed on the guy who runs it. But it seems pretty clear that Wilson sucks as a player, sucks as a teammate and apparently sucks as a person too.
I do think that Wilson seems to have put friends in charge instead of people who know how to run ops, which is a big issue.

But I do sometimes hate the reporting on charities like this. I've been somewhat involved in non-profit management and consulted here and there and the biggest way to get no money to the people who need it is think you can get people to run the operations out of the goodness of their hearts.

It just doesn't work that way, so, yes, often you need to use a lot of the money to pay salaries and benefits so the charity can have the most impact. Well-run charities don't pay amazingly, but they pay competitively enough to get talent who do want to do good work.

Reporters often report on that as if every dollar should be spent on the acts, but that's the best way to have a charity fail quickly.
 

luckiestman

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If he's cut doesn't he get to keep the guaranteed money and sign a new contract? Maybe he thinks that'll be more money or at least similar plus gets to choose his landing spot.
Maybe, I just remember there is some Feb 15 thing. But Lombardi was talking about how the league year doesn’t begin until March. You might be right.
 

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Carr's agent has had time to survey the market for his client, so I think it is safe to assume there is either a better contract or situation out there for him than what is on the table via trade right now.

I think it would be extra amusing if Carr already found that team and is waiting to get cut so the Raiders get nothing. Save his new tean some trade assets. He doesn't owe the Raiders anything.
 

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Carr's agent has had time to survey the market for his client, so I think it is safe to assume there is either a better contract or situation out there for him than what is on the table via trade right now.

I think it would be extra amusing if Carr already found that team and is waiting to get cut so the Raiders get nothing. Save his new tean some trade assets. He doesn't owe the Raiders anything.
The Raiders had less than 0% leverage on this situation. If they don't cut him by Feb 15th, the Raiders owe Carr 41 million guaranteed. They have no choice and Carr knows this.

Why wouldn't he rather be a free agent?
 

luckiestman

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The Raiders had less than 0% leverage on this situation. If they don't cut him by Feb 15th, the Raiders owe Carr 41 million guaranteed. They have no choice and Carr knows this.

Why wouldn't he rather be a free agent?
for some reason I thought it was reported he would make more on his current deal than a FA deal but I might be getting that wrong.
 

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for some reason I thought it was reported he would make more on his current deal than a FA deal but I might be getting that wrong.
That's true BUT the Raiders were done with Carr and they made that clear. So why would Carr facilitate a trade and help the Raiders out?
 

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We talked about this earlier in the thread back in December.

How does Carr's contact work if he accepts a trade? Three years with manageable cap hits if the team that trades for him wants to move on during the first two? If so, I think if he doesn't retire early that he could probably get a contract that has lower money by year but gives him more security on a longer deal with a team that he can choose himself if he refuses a trade. Let the Raiders cut him.

He was terrible this year, but he's 31 and I don't think he's washed. He could be, but maybe McD contributed to the problem(s). Who knows.
Carr's agent has had time and opportunity to nail down the market for him.

Edit: meant to include the response to this post from MM:

The new team would have to guarantee all of his 2023 salary and 7.5M of his 2024 salary. But he’d be very cuttable after the first year from cap and cash perspectives (large net cap savings and mostly non guaranteed salary).
 

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Yeah, he kind of was like a first generation Mike Evans. Dealing with him and Gates and Tomlinson was always such a challenge. Really is amazing those guys never won anything.
I always think of that play where they picked Brady and were in line to win and move on, right? Then troy brown ripped it free and the pats got the ball back.
 

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Ramsey is good but way overrated. I mean, he’d help the Pats for sure but at what cost? Both the trade price and the massive contract put together makes this prohibitive in my book.

Wagner, though, just costs money. Much more intriguing.
 

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They definitely went all in. Got a title, so it was probably worth it. But yeah…gonna have some struggles here.
Absolutely. But at least they got that title in year 1. The horrible rebuild is easier that way than for a team that goes all in and then suffers frustrating losses (cough Niners cough)
 

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Absolutely. But at least they got that title in year 1. The horrible rebuild is easier that way than for a team that goes all in and then suffers frustrating losses (cough Niners cough)
And injuries to the players they went all in for…