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Mystic Merlin

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It is May 26th and he's been released. So it's not a post June 1st cut, Arizona is taking their financial medicine now because they are dead in 2023 anyway.
Actually, teams can generally release up to two players before June 2nd with a ‘post-June 1st’ designation. It’s an accounting fiction that lets a team spread the dead money over two years -effective on June 2nd - while letting a player hit the market earlier. Usually teams use the designation in March or so, when players have a better opportunity to find a new home in FA.

That obviously isn’t the case here, as the heat of FA is long since gone and they couldn’t get anyone to trade for Hopkins, and I haven’t seen any indication the team is designating the release as post-June 1st.
 

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Actually, teams can generally release up to two players before June 2nd with a ‘post-June 1st’ designation. It’s an accounting fiction that lets a team spread the dead money over two years -effective on June 2nd - while letting a player hit the market earlier. Usually teams use the designation in March or so, when players have a better opportunity to find a new home in FA.

That obviously isn’t the case here, as the heat of FA is long since gone and they couldn’t get anyone to trade for Hopkins, and I haven’t seen any indication the team is designating the release as post-June 1st.
They are not as they've already used their two post-June 1 slots this offseason on J.J. Watt and Rodney Hudson.
 

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I don’t know if he has the right temperament. From what I hear, he tends to pop off after taking a few licks….
 

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This will definitely punish teams that value kick coverage and do it well. Instead of banging every kick into the end zone, they could strategically kick balls inside the 5 and limit the return to before the 25. Now there's zero incentive to do it because the other team just takes a fair catch and get it at the 25. There's no point to even having kickoffs any more. Just put the ball at the 25 after the extra point.
I suppose there's always a small chance of the kickoff going out of bounds?
 

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This is crazy and out there but would Hopkins be willing to go to the 9ers? I don’t think they have the room, but they have the weapons and the great defense plus stable management.
 

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Wait...

The NFL has made deals with sites like FanDuel and such. They are also now in cahoots with sportbooks.
Adverts for FAnduel and the like are prominent evreywhere from NFL Network to stadiums to the web.

And they are now surprised that players are in on it?

Well...

View: https://youtu.be/SjbPi00k_ME


Gone are the days when gambling on sports meant you called a bookie and stuff.
 

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Wait...

The NFL has made deals with sites like FanDuel and such. They are also now in cahoots with sportbooks.
Adverts for FAnduel and the like are prominent evreywhere from NFL Network to stadiums to the web.

And they are now surprised that players are in on it?

Not the first and won't be the last time I read a comment like this but I don't get it. The players can't make proper decisions because the league takes money from gambling?
 

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Not the first and won't be the last time I read a comment like this but I don't get it. The players can't make proper decisions because the league takes money from gambling?
Again, today's NFL doesn't just take money from gambling. It is promoted everywhere.

I'm not saying the players are right. I am trying to say that gambling in sports used to be something you had to actively seek, and in most cases call a bookie or something you know was shady at best and probably illegal. Making a call to Fanduel (or clicking on the app in your phone) when you see that the league is actually calling on everyone to do so is different.
 

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Wait...

The NFL has made deals with sites like FanDuel and such. They are also now in cahoots with sportbooks.
Adverts for FAnduel and the like are prominent evreywhere from NFL Network to stadiums to the web.

And they are now surprised that players are in on it?

Well...

View: https://youtu.be/SjbPi00k_ME


Gone are the days when gambling on sports meant you called a bookie and stuff.
The league takes advertisements from beer companies too. Should players have 15 beers before games?
 

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The league takes advertisements from beer companies too. Should players have 15 beers before games?
I will say 2 things about that:

1. The league takes advertisement from beer companies, but players who are in training know better (and maybe some do drink before games). There are clear established policies.
2. The league not only takes money from places like Fanduel. They actively promote it. When I see NFL Network discuss the different bets you can make on Fanduel (and use this code to get $5 or whatever amount) I cringe. Players are impressionable. I think gambling policies should have been updated and discussed more widely. These are the consequences.
 

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I will say 2 things about that:

1. The league takes advertisement from beer companies, but players who are in training know better (and maybe some do drink before games). There are clear established policies.
2. The league not only takes money from places like Fanduel. They actively promote it. When I see NFL Network discuss the different bets you can make on Fanduel (and use this code to get $5 or whatever amount) I cringe. Players are impressionable. I think gambling policies should have been updated and discussed more widely. These are the consequences.
You are making millions of dollars a year, don’t bet on sports. Is it really any more simple than that?
 

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But the league doesn't say "don't bet on sports." They say "don't bet on sports on league property." The distinction is silly.
yep, especially since it's probably given to them in a list of 1000000 other bullshit rules, many of which were never enforced. Like... no playing cards for money during trips... which we all know every team in the league has been breaking every single trip for 60 years.
 

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yep, especially since it's probably given to them in a list of 1000000 other bullshit rules, many of which were never enforced. Like... no playing cards for money during trips... which we all know every team in the league has been breaking every single trip for 60 years.
Ja Morant loves this post. So many rules who can keep up with them? Sorry for crossing sports but the rule
Is dumb, but you can easily avoid it by not betting on sports.
 

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Ja Morant loves this post. So many rules who can keep up with them? Sorry for crossing sports but the rule
Is dumb, but you can easily avoid it by not betting on sports.
Sure, you could also avoid breaking the speed limit rules by never getting a driver's license. The rule is dumb, it is ill-defined and new, the NFL also as always selectively enforces rules without rhyme or reason and the 100s of rules change every year, expecting players to accurately track all the nuances of your million dumb rules isn't reasonable. Cracking down on this is fundamentally dumb. The players betting on NFL games.. sure, because that's both a reasonable rule and something you should assume all players easily know and track... guys making bets on college games from the hotel room or the flight... c'mon. Especially given how the NFL itself loves to promote how these guys make bets in the lockerrooms based on college games (jersey's, hats, etc.).
 

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It's kind of funny/ironic that the league will probably fine a guy if he masturbates with non-league approved lube and suspend him if he does business with the league's top (gambling) sponsor.
(I know...apples to prunes.....)
 

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It's just wildly hypocritical, that's all.
Expand on that.

If anything, the NFL has a stronger duty to ensure outcomes are determined fairly now that they have explicitly endorsed certain bookmakers. Furthermore, no employee should be able to front run customer bets through insider information.
 

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It's just wildly hypocritical, that's all.
Not sure if it's hypocritical or just a stupid way to grab money if the league is at all concerned with appearing legit.
When every single play seems "sponsored" by a gambling entity, even a few players getting caught can make the entire enterprise look shady.
Players were always going to break the rules and bet. It makes the league look more shady when you combine a few rulebreakers with the pervasive sponsorship.
Whispers of "fixes" and "throwing games" used to be in the background. THIS GAME IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY DRAFTKINGS BET ON EVERY PLAY brings those whispers to the forefront as more and more viewers' interests are more conspicuously about things other than the final score.
(I know this has a bit of old man yelling at clouds, and that gambling has been around forever, but I'm not sure the NFL is in as much control of this as they are so many other things. Fans don't care about Ray Rice beating a woman, so the league didn't. Fans are going to care when an easy drop costs them money).
 

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He is only 28 and rushed for nearly 1200 yards last season. He will have a market.
Bottom half of the league in yards over expected.

He got the volume but he's also always dealing with injuries. Why would any team chase an expensive 28 year old RB? I guess if you got him for cheap he would be worth it.
 

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Lord knows why anyone would be chasing after Cook at this point in his career.
Bottom half of the league in yards over expected.

He got the volume but he's also always dealing with injuries. Why would any team chase an expensive 28 year old RB? I guess if you got him for cheap he would be worth it.
Not to mention the sexual assault allegations. Has there been any resolution to that?
 

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Have seen a lot of buzz online about him going to the Dolphins if he were let go by the Vikings. Is there actual interest or need? @sodenj5
On paper, you would think Miami is all set at RB, but both Raheem Mostert and Jeff Wilson are made of glass and Devon Achane is an exciting piece, but is a small back and more of a complimentary guy. Salvon Ahmed and Myles Gaskin are practice squad fodder.

Cook would be the best back on the roster, full stop. No, he isn’t the same guy from 2019, but his numbers don’t appear to have fallen off of a cliff either.

Making him a more rotational back with Mostert and Wilson to handle the shorter yardage and some red zone stuff sounds pretty appealing to me and should benefit all of those guys.

Miami has money freed up from cutting Byron Jones post June 1st, but I would imagine they aren’t willing to pay him anywhere close to what he was making with Minny. Getting cut by Minnesota is a pretty clear signal no one was willing to take on that contract.

There’s been so much smoke around this, I would be surprised if Miami didn’t get this done. Adding Cook is exactly the type of move they should be making on a one or two year deal for this all-in push.
 

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On paper, you would think Miami is all set at RB, but both Raheem Mostert and Jeff Wilson are made of glass and Devon Achane is an exciting piece, but is a small back and more of a complimentary guy. Salvon Ahmed and Myles Gaskin are practice squad fodder.

Cook would be the best back on the roster, full stop. No, he isn’t the same guy from 2019, but his numbers don’t appear to have fallen off of a cliff either.

Making him a more rotational back with Mostert and Wilson to handle the shorter yardage and some red zone stuff sounds pretty appealing to me and should benefit all of those guys.

Miami has money freed up from cutting Byron Jones post June 1st, but I would imagine they aren’t willing to pay him anywhere close to what he was making with Minny. Getting cut by Minnesota is a pretty clear signal no one was willing to take on that contract.

There’s been so much smoke around this, I would be surprised if Miami didn’t get this done. Adding Cook is exactly the type of move they should be making on a one or two year deal for this all-in push.
Agreed. Cook isn't going to be a workhorse RB for anyone but he absolutely can still provide value in a 1a/1b type situation. I was thinking Dallas with Pollard coming off a major injury as a good landing spot and Miami as well. Looks like Denver is poking around, which makes sense given Javonte's return from injury. I don't think he's getting significant money from anyone.