Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

[BaseballJones]

In SOME sense, I want them to pick third. If other teams take Williams and Maye, you happily snag MHJ and get a QB with pick #35. And then you say, "What could we do? The QB everyone wanted us to take was gone already." And it would be true. And nobody would think it wrong for the Pats to NOT trade up to #1 or #2, or that it was wrong to not draft a lesser prospect at #3 when the top two guys were gone. It would be the smart play at #3 in this scenario.

And if someone takes MHJ at #2, then you take whichever QB is left over. Unless, yeah, you really don't like Williams or Maye, and then you draft the OT from PSU or you trade down and accumulate more assets.

I do worry that having the #1 or #2 pick means a very, very difficult choice to take a QB or MHJ. I worry that picking Maye there - while it makes all the sense in the world on paper - will be wasting that pick on a bust while MHJ goes on to have a HOF career with someone else.

 

[Koufax]

Which is why I'd prefer that they draft MHJ given the chance. He seems like a sure thing at a position of great importance; QBs are a risk.

 

[Saints Rest]

I'd think that the hit rate with WRs and OTs is higher, but QB is a more important position, so when you have a top-2 or top-3 shot at a potentially franchise-changing one, you kind of gotta take your shot, right?

Or... you draft the stud WR/OT and then find another solution at QB (like a Cousins or Garoppolo or whatever else you think works, or maybe someone later in the draft you like almost as much as the top guys).

Hindsight 20/20, yada, yadda, yadda, but imagine what the Jets would be if they had taken any non-QB picked between 4 and 14 instead of Wilson: Pitts, Chase, Waddle, Sewell, Horn, Surtain, Smith, Parsons, Slater.

 

[JM3]

If we're so concerned about the ability of the in-house people to scout QBs, we should be getting people from out-of-house to do it. The higher the pick the better. The more options you have the better, & getting an elite QB is going to be significantly more valuable than anyone else you could ever acquire. If you don't think the guys available where you pick are that good, you confidently move down & do something else & take advantage of your increased draft capital.

I don't see "take best QB available in the late 1st/early 2nd" being a particularly viable plan, though. Swing for the fences. It's part of why I hated the Mac Jones thing so much & pushed against it both before & after the draft. I don't want a guy whose absolute ceiling is Kirk Cousins.

 

[Cellar-Door]

In SOME sense, I want them to pick third. If other teams take Williams and Maye, you happily snag MHJ and get a QB with pick #35. And then you say, "What could we do? The QB everyone wanted us to take was gone already." And it would be true. And nobody would think it wrong for the Pats to NOT trade up to #1 or #2, or that it was wrong to not draft a lesser prospect at #3 when the top two guys were gone. It would be the smart play at #3 in this scenario.

And if someone takes MHJ at #2, then you take whichever QB is left over. Unless, yeah, you really don't like Williams or Maye, and then you draft the OT from PSU or you trade down and accumulate more assets.

I do worry that having the #1 or #2 pick means a very, very difficult choice to take a QB or MHJ. I worry that picking Maye there - while it makes all the sense in the world on paper - will be wasting that pick on a bust while MHJ goes on to have a HOF career with someone else.

Of course what probably hapens is you take MHJ, he's Allen Robinson and the QB who goes at 12 is a franchise QB.

 

[DJnVa]

Stroud has been great but don't sleep on Bobby Slowik coming over from SF to become the OC. He was the passing game coordinator there and has brought the same concepts which have helped a lot as well. This is a large part of the reason why I'm ready to move on from Bill. The offensive side of the ball has passed him by and his reluctance to bring in a modern day OC is going to keep this offense held back regardless of who is picking the groceries and how great they are. BOB is a semi-competent OC but we need someone visionary which Bill and Josh were until they weren't.

Yeah, I wasn't saying it was just those 2, but it was basically one offseason. And I have seen Slowik on some lists for HC of the NEP should that position become open.

 

[NomarsFool]

But in light of that, how do we look at these guys based on the conference they're in, the competition they face, and the talent they have around them? How does that affect our view of them? And the NFL's view of them?

CJ Stroud certainly has one well, even though he came from a really good team in a really good conference. So, you just never know.

 

[NomarsFool]

If we're so concerned about the ability of the in-house people to scout QBs, we should be getting people from out-of-house to do it. The higher the pick the better. The more options you have the better, & getting an elite QB is going to be significantly more valuable than anyone else you could ever acquire. If you don't think the guys available where you pick are that good, you confidently move down & do something else & take advantage of your increased draft capital.

At some point in time, I thought I'd seen that there were more QBs (or starting QBs) in the league drafted by the Patriots than any other organization. Anyone remember that? Mac hasn't worked out, but I don't think that means that the Patriots can't scout QBs. No one is perfect (although maybe you add in Zappe you can argue they haven't done well).

My biggest beef with the Patriots has been more evaluating the QBs they have on their team and in practice. It still baffles me that:

1) Before Cam Newton literally fell from the sky, the Patriots plan was to go with Stidham a few years ago. How was that their plan?
2) Knowing what they have in Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe, how were they the plan for this season? I mean, the Patriots' staff has all kinds of knowledge that we don't have.

 

[Pandemonium67]

Is there such a thing as a QB who really shines in practice but really stinks in actual games? If so, maybe that's Mac.

Maybe it's not uncommon. Maybe he's one of many QBs who can't perform in adverse situations, such as with sub-par O-line and WRs. It's like not being able to hit a curve.

 

[Cellar-Door]

At some point in time, I thought I'd seen that there were more QBs (or starting QBs) in the league drafted by the Patriots than any other organization. Anyone remember that? Mac hasn't worked out, but I don't think that means that the Patriots can't scout QBs. No one is perfect (although maybe you add in Zappe you can argue they haven't done well).

My biggest beef with the Patriots has been more evaluating the QBs they have on their team and in practice. It still baffles me that:

1) Before Cam Newton literally fell from the sky, the Patriots plan was to go with Stidham a few years ago. How was that their plan?
2) Knowing what they have in Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe, how were they the plan for this season? I mean, the Patriots' staff has all kinds of knowledge that we don't have.

The Patriots have been very, very good at scouting/developing QBs in the Belichick era: Brady (6th round, GOAT), Rohan Davey (4th, 3 year backup), Kingsbury (6th, nothing), Cassell (7th, 81 NFL starts, and a PB), Kevin O'COnnell (3rd, 1 year backup), Zac Robinson (7th, nada), Ryan Mallett (3rd, 5 season backup), Jimmy G (2nd, 63 starts and counting) Brissett (3rd, 48 starts and counting), Etling (7th, nada), Stidham (4th, 5 year backup). That's a great return for pick investment. Basically nobody returning below expectation for draft slot (O'Connel maybe), and a bunch of overachievers. Mac is the first actual disappointment.

As to the 2 questions:
1. They had zero cap space and had spent picks to try and win a Superbowl.
2. THe plan was to find out what they had with Mac. They weren't getting a top QB, and weren't a particularly attractive option for the best fringey guys.

 

[cshea]

2) Knowing what they have in Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe, how were they the plan for this season? I mean, the Patriots' staff has all kinds of knowledge that we don't have.

I think the only thing they could've done differently last offseason was maybe upgrading from Zappe to a veteran.

Mac was decent in 2021 and the team won 10 games and made the playoffs. He regressed last year but everyone blamed Patricia. They tried to fix that mistake by hiring O'Brien, who notably worked with Mac at Alabama and has had success as an NFL OC and HC. I think it was perfectly reasonable to keep Mac as the starting QB for this year. Obviously it hasn't worked.

Additionally, I'm not sure there was anything out there that was a viable upgrade on Mac. Young, Stroud and Richardson were all drafted before the Patriots picked so they either have to trade up or pick Will Levis instead of Christian Gonzalez. On the free agent market, they could've sent a huge offer sheet to Lamar but there was no guarantee Lamar would sign it or that Baltimore wouldn't match. And if Baltimore didn't match, it would've cost a lot of money and draft picks. The other "big" free agent was Jimmy G. Should they have gone down that road again? After him the free agents are basically the higher priced veteran backups like Brissett, Minshew and Heinecke. I guess you could make an argument that the Patriots could've hedged and brought in one of those guys to replace Zappe but those guys are expensive and Zappe at the very least played decent as a rookie in a tough spot. I think their offseason strategy at QB was entirely defensible.

 

[BaseballJones]

Of course what probably hapens is you take MHJ, he's Allen Robinson and the QB who goes at 12 is a franchise QB.

LOL. I totally hear you on that. In so many ways, I'm beyond excited for this upcoming draft, and yet I'm also completely terrified at what might unfold. I'm probably not alone in this.

 

[rodderick]

They absolutely should have driven a Brinks truck to Lamar Jackson's home but yeah, at the time people were just way into the idea that Patricia was this historically horrific OC that no QB could ever succeed with. I recall some even here talking about how Bill O'Brien would provide a bigger upgrade to the team's offense than prime Brady would were he to replace Mac Jones.

 

[BaseballJones]

At some point in time, I thought I'd seen that there were more QBs (or starting QBs) in the league drafted by the Patriots than any other organization. Anyone remember that? Mac hasn't worked out, but I don't think that means that the Patriots can't scout QBs. No one is perfect (although maybe you add in Zappe you can argue they haven't done well).

My biggest beef with the Patriots has been more evaluating the QBs they have on their team and in practice. It still baffles me that:

1) Before Cam Newton literally fell from the sky, the Patriots plan was to go with Stidham a few years ago. How was that their plan?
2) Knowing what they have in Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe, how were they the plan for this season? I mean, the Patriots' staff has all kinds of knowledge that we don't have.

I think, if I recall correctly, the reports were that Mac had improved considerably, looked really good in various camps, and he had O'Brien coming in to give Mac a "real" offense to work with. All signs were pointing up, if I remember right.

 

[rodderick]

I think, if I recall correctly, the reports were that Mac had improved considerably, looked really good in various camps, and he had O'Brien coming in to give Mac a "real" offense to work with. All signs were pointing up, if I remember right.

Reports were way more tepid from the non-pompom wavers like Mark Daniels. I distinctly recall the Patriots Unfiltered crew in particular being very unimpressed with the offense in camp, including guys like Juju, Gesicki and both Mac and Zappe, for instance.

 

[Toe Nash]

I'm not arguing the point - this is a genuine question. How can you be so good at scheming a defense against modern offenses, and yet have modern offense "pass you by"?

This is a good question; I think at least part of it is that some of the "bend but don't break" concepts that BB has always espoused are generally the right way to handle teams that have a lot of speed and motion and try to get you going off-balance. You keep everything in front of you, set the edge, make tackles, and hope that the offense will make a mistake on its way down the field. They don't rely on a lot of man coverage or blitzing.

I do also think that some teams like the Bills and Dolphins have taken it a bit easy against the Patriots this year on offense because they don't fear the Patriots offense.

The Patriots have been very, very good at scouting/developing QBs in the Belichick era: Brady (6th round, GOAT), Rohan Davey (4th, 3 year backup), Kingsbury (6th, nothing), Cassell (7th, 81 NFL starts, and a PB), Kevin O'COnnell (3rd, 1 year backup), Zac Robinson (7th, nada), Ryan Mallett (3rd, 5 season backup), Jimmy G (2nd, 63 starts and counting) Brissett (3rd, 48 starts and counting), Etling (7th, nada), Stidham (4th, 5 year backup). That's a great return for pick investment. Basically nobody returning below expectation for draft slot (O'Connel maybe), and a bunch of overachievers. Mac is the first actual disappointment.

I don't know if they have done that well at drafting QBs when 7 of the guys you list never started a competitive game. Mallett was the backup for 3 seasons (not 5, he lost out to Jimmy G as backup in 2014) which seems nice for a third round pick but we never had to really find out if he was any good (and once he went to Houston he wasn't exactly great). I think Stidham is OK but same idea. They were fine on a cheap contract but BB was praying that he never had to use them. He also went with Brian Hoyer as a backup for a bit so just making the team as the backup to Brady doesn't necessarily mean you're any good.

Jimmy G is pretty decent but was the highest pick of the bunch.

I mean you can add Zappe to that list by your logic because he was drafted way down in the 4th and was the backup for 2 years! But we know he basically sucks, is that a great return on your pick investment?

I'd say they have 3 guys who clearly outperformed their draft position (Brady, Brissett, Cassel) and Jimmy G who probably did, and a bunch of guys who were about as expected including Mac. They don't have any first round total busts but they never had to take a gamble on someone with a high pick. The problem is they're going to have a REALLY high pick that they need to figure out what to do with so just getting a decent starter isn't good enough here. If they end up in the top 2 they need to either get THE guy (there could be more than one), or trade the pick to rebuild the rest of the team.

 

[Cellar-Door]

This is a good question; I think at least part of it is that some of the "bend but don't break" concepts that BB has always espoused are generally the right way to handle teams that have a lot of speed and motion and try to get you going off-balance. You keep everything in front of you, set the edge, make tackles, and hope that the offense will make a mistake on its way down the field. They don't rely on a lot of man coverage or blitzing.

I do also think that some teams like the Bills and Dolphins have taken it a bit easy against the Patriots this year on offense because they don't fear the Patriots offense.

I don't know if they have done that well at drafting QBs when 7 of the guys you list never started a competitive game. Mallett was the backup for 3 seasons (not 5, he lost out to Jimmy G as backup in 2014) which seems nice for a third round pick but we never had to really find out if he was any good (and once he went to Houston he wasn't exactly great). I think Stidham is OK but same idea. They were fine on a cheap contract but BB was praying that he never had to use them. He also went with Brian Hoyer as a backup for a bit so just making the team as the backup to Brady doesn't necessarily mean you're any good.

Jimmy G is pretty decent but was the highest pick of the bunch.

I mean you can add Zappe to that list by your logic because he was drafted way down in the 4th and was the backup for 2 years! But we know he basically sucks, is that a great return on your pick investment?

I'd say they have 3 guys who clearly outperformed their draft position (Brady, Brissett, Cassel) and Jimmy G who probably did, and a bunch of guys who were about as expected including Mac. They don't have any first round total busts but they never had to take a gamble on someone with a high pick. The problem is they're going to have a REALLY high pick that they need to figure out what to do with so just getting a decent starter isn't good enough here. If they end up in the top 2 they need to either get THE guy (there could be more than one), or trade the pick to rebuild the rest of the team.

Where you draft guys matter. QBs after round 2 are expected to fail, arguably even after round 1. My point was, they drafted a bunch of guys with the expectation of being backups at best based on draft position, maybe not even making an NFL roster. Instead they got a bunch of guys who were starters, and backups around the league for a number of years. That's a very high hit rate compared to most. I also wouldn't (and didn't) just count their time here, it is a credit that multiple other teams have thought Stidham or Mallet had enough to be their backup. Not many teams have invested as little and gotten as much quality (even if the existence of the best QB pick ever meant some of that success happened elsewhere) as NE has. There is good reason to think that Mac's collapse isn't much of an indication that the next QB pick will be bad

 

[DJnVa]

I think the only thing they could've done differently last offseason was maybe upgrading from Zappe to a veteran.

Mac was decent in 2021 and the team won 10 games and made the playoffs. He regressed last year but everyone blamed Patricia. They tried to fix that mistake by hiring O'Brien, who notably worked with Mac at Alabama and has had success as an NFL OC and HC

He didn't really work with Mac at Alabama. Mac was leaving, BoB was coming in and they talked a little about schemes, but it was never really on the field things.

 

[dirtynine]

In SOME sense, I want them to pick third. If other teams take Williams and Maye, you happily snag MHJ and get a QB with pick #35. And then you say, "What could we do? The QB everyone wanted us to take was gone already." And it would be true. And nobody would think it wrong for the Pats to NOT trade up to #1 or #2, or that it was wrong to not draft a lesser prospect at #3 when the top two guys were gone. It would be the smart play at #3 in this scenario.

And if someone takes MHJ at #2, then you take whichever QB is left over. Unless, yeah, you really don't like Williams or Maye, and then you draft the OT from PSU or you trade down and accumulate more assets.

I do worry that having the #1 or #2 pick means a very, very difficult choice to take a QB or MHJ. I worry that picking Maye there - while it makes all the sense in the world on paper - will be wasting that pick on a bust while MHJ goes on to have a HOF career with someone else.

This is so passive, though. I want the Pats to have a very clear idea of the right move, and then to execute. If that means trading up or down, fine. I’m not worried with minimizing the bad feelings later if it doesn’t work out.

 

[NomarsFool]

There seem to be a number of trash heap QBs around the league these days that have started games recently, and are any of them worse than Mac?

 

[lexrageorge]

They absolutely should have driven a Brinks truck to Lamar Jackson's home but yeah, at the time people were just way into the idea that Patricia was this historically horrific OC that no QB could ever succeed with. I recall some even here talking about how Bill O'Brien would provide a bigger upgrade to the team's offense than prime Brady would were he to replace Mac Jones.

Jackson's injury history probably scared them off. And there's the logistical hurdle that the offer sheet ties up cap money while the Ravens decide whether to match, which was a likely outcome. There were also unconfirmed rumblings that Jackson wanted a fully guaranteed contract a-la Watson to leave the Ravens, and there is no way, no how that Kraft would have (or should) agreed to that.

It was reasonable to assume that Mac could improve with a new coordinator and a chance to fully heal from his high ankle injury.

 

[Cellar-Door]

There seem to be a number of trash heap QBs around the league these days that have started games recently, and are any of them worse than Mac?

Current mental mess Mac... maybe not?

Mac isn't going to be able to fall back on an ability to test the defense with his legs like a Dobbs can, he isn't going to stretch the field by throwing rockets like Will Levis. His road to success is repeated excellent execution and reading of the defense. Once he got the yips he was in a worse spot than a lot of the bad QBs because his physical tools are near the bottom of the league, so without technique and decision making he's worse than the guys who also make dumb decisions and have bad technique but at least can run or have a canon to get away with bad decisions

 

[Deathofthebambino]

There seem to be a number of trash heap QBs around the league these days that have started games recently, and are any of them worse than Mac?

I would argue yes, but it's a moving target.

PJ Walker and DTR in Cleveland have been dreadful too.

Tyson Bagent in Chicago was awful.

Browning played better than Mac this week, but that ain't saying much and he's got Chase/Boyd/Mixon out there with him.

Aidan O'Connell has been terrible, they've got 17 points or less in 5 of his 6 starts (only other being against the Giants), but he's got Adams/Jacobs/Meyers/Mayer...

The Zach Wilson/Tim Boyle two headed monster in New York has been atrocious.

Levis had the great debut, since then, they have 53 points in 4 games.

There's a few guys like Dobbs, Minshew who have come in and played well in backup roles, but by and large, the QB play has been abysmal around the league once the starters go down, and that's on teams with rosters way better than what the Pats are rolling out.

 

[johnmd20]

Tyson Bagent in Chicago was awful.

Bagent also went 2-2 as a starter and won as many games as Fields won in like 15 games. But, yes, he wasn't great, good enough in a couple of games.

 

[BusRaker]

If we're so concerned about the ability of the in-house people to scout QBs, we should be getting people from out-of-house to do it.

Tom has some free time now!

 

[Deathofthebambino]

Bagent also went 2-2 as a starter and won as many games as Fields won in like 15 games. But, yes, he wasn't great, good enough in a couple of games.

Wasn't great is a pretty low bar then.

He had one "good" game against Vegas when he went 21-29 for 162 yards and 1td.

His other appearances, he had 2tds, 6 ints, 3 fumbles and put up QBR's of 75.0, 65.3, 62.0, and 56.5. They scored 16, 17, 13 and 13 points.

He wasn't good at all. I do love the guy's dad though, that dude is fucking awesome. https://www.walunderground.com/competitors/competitors-details/travis-bagent1

 

[Justthetippett]

Tom has some free time now!

Wonder what he thinks of JJ McCarthy. That's a guy that could be available in R2. He's not going to blow anyone away with his stats on that team.

 

[Red Averages]

Can’t be afraid to take a risk. This team needs variance to be successful. Bunch of safe picks will take years before it turns the team around to a legit contender let alone Super Bowl contender. Bunch of risky picks that fail (Jets) means you’re at the same spot, struggling for years. At least you have assets to trade until you hit big. This is a league where you need to hit on multiple layers of cheap talent in the draft and surround it with complimentary talent. It’s first or last. No one wants to be the Steelers of the last 15 years.

 

[Toe Nash]

Where you draft guys matter. QBs after round 2 are expected to fail, arguably even after round 1. My point was, they drafted a bunch of guys with the expectation of being backups at best based on draft position, maybe not even making an NFL roster. Instead they got a bunch of guys who were starters, and backups around the league for a number of years. That's a very high hit rate compared to most. I also wouldn't (and didn't) just count their time here, it is a credit that multiple other teams have thought Stidham or Mallet had enough to be their backup. Not many teams have invested as little and gotten as much quality (even if the existence of the best QB pick ever meant some of that success happened elsewhere) as NE has. There is good reason to think that Mac's collapse isn't much of an indication that the next QB pick will be bad

I won't belabor the point but does it matter that the guys who thought Mallet and Stidham were worth having on their team used to work for BB?

I have more confidence in BB picking the next QB than other spots on the offense but it's not because he picked Jarrett Stidham in the 4th round; getting your next franchise guy with a first round pick is a completely different decision with much higher stakes.

 

[Groovenstein]

It’s first or last.

Found Ricky Bobby’s burner account.

 

[nattysez]

What a huge win by the Bears. Now the Pats can accidentally sneak in a win and still pick top-3.

 

[AB in DC]

What a huge win by the Bears.

 

[BigSoxFan]

What a huge win by the Bears. Now the Pats can accidentally sneak in a win and still pick top-3.

Now the Bears need to do us another solid and lose to the Cardinals in a few weeks

 

[Cellar-Door]

What a huge win by the Bears. Now the Pats can accidentally sneak in a win and still pick top-3.

also means the Pats have a much easier path to #2, even without losing out.
Currently 3rd as the Cardinals have played (and lost) 1 more game, but SOS now favors the Cardinals and likely will end the year that way, so Patriots are 2nd if they lose out, if Arizona wins one (steelers and Bears on the schedule) the Patriots could sneak a win and likely still be 2nd.

 

[Ferm Sheller]

Now the Bears need to do us another solid and lose to the Cardinals in a few weeks

If the Pats and Cards both lose out they'll each finish at 2-15. Can the Pats get #2 in that scenario based on weaker strength of schedule? Cards do have the Bears left, but they also have games against very good teams -- Philly (10 wins), SF (8 wins), Steelers (7 wins and common remaining opponent with Pats), and Seattle (6 wins).

EDIT: What Cellar-Door said.

 

[moondog80]

After head-to-head record, which won't apply, the next draft tiebreaker is record vs common opponents (minimum of 4 games, which would be met). This bodes well for the Pats, as the Cardinals hold a win over Dallas and the Bears over Washington. If the Panthers can beat New Orleans in a couple of weeks, things would be looking very good.

 

[wilked]

The three key games next week below. All three tank-contenders (Carolina noted as a non-incentivized tank) are ~6 point dogs

Cardinals @ Steelers (Steelers -6): Murray is fighting for his NFL career and that's the main hope for a Cardinals win. They looked pretty bad last week though.

Chargers @ Patriots (Chargers -5.5): The formula against the Pats is to score more than 10, and I think the Chargers will get to 20. This looks like a loss.

Panthers @ Bucs (Bucs -6): Unfortunately I think the Bucs win this one pretty handily. While they are 4-7 their losses have been to Eagles, Lions, close one to Falcons, Bills, Texans (close one), 49ers, and last week a close one to the Colts. They are in the teens in terms of NFL rank and that's probably plenty to beat the Panthers. The only wild card is if the interim coach can light a fire, but I doubt it.

 

[Bowser]

Chargers @ Patriots (Chargers -5.5): The formula against the Pats is to score more than 10, and I think the Chargers will get to 20. This looks like a loss.

Woof.

 

[DJnVa]

PeniX vs. NiX tonight at 8 pm.

Good chance to watch guys that could be the...wait for it...X factor in Pats draft plans.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Neither of these guys looks like a good NFL starter in the making to me.

 

[BaseballJones]

Neither of these guys looks like a good NFL starter in the making to me.

Yeah, I was going to ask you all whether your needle moved on Nix or Penix at all after tonight's game.

 

[chilidawg]

Watching the highlights made me eminently qualified to think Nix is a better prospect.

 

[Justthetippett]

Neither of these guys looks like a good NFL starter in the making to me.

Also not sold on either. Nix looks like a supped-up Colt McCoy to me. No thanks. Penix has a cannon, but he's slow and his pocket presence, mechanics and throwing motion give me concern. He'll need to tighten those things up.

 

[NomarsFool]

Meh. Not impressed. Trade down to pick up a stud WR and a stud OT, and sign some mediocre QB as a stopgap on a 2 year deal.

 

[BaseballJones]

My son insists we grab Harrison then an OT and then sign Cousins for three seasons. He thinks Cousins will be cheaper coming off an injury and in the meanwhile you draft his replacement (like maybe in 2025) and let him learn a couple seasons.

It’s not a terrible idea especially if you’re not convinced any of the 2024 QBs are the MAN.

 

[lexrageorge]

My son insists we grab Harrison then an OT and then sign Cousins for three seasons. He thinks Cousins will be cheaper coming off an injury and in the meanwhile you draft his replacement (like maybe in 2025) and let him learn a couple seasons.

It’s not a terrible idea especially if you’re not convinced any of the 2024 QBs are the MAN.

Well, Cousins better be cheaper, especially if he's a candidate to start the season on PUP.

 

[BaseballJones]

Well, Cousins better be cheaper, especially if he's a candidate to start the season on PUP.

Yes obviously this plan isn’t as good if you determine he’ll miss half of the 2024 season.

 

[j44thor]

I'll be surprised if Cousins isn't back in MN where he has weapons galore and MN likely won't be in position to draft a QB that would start day 1.
If you are Cousins why on earth would you pick NE over MN assuming offers were similar.

 

[BaseballJones]

I'll be surprised if Cousins isn't back in MN where he has weapons galore and MN likely won't be in position to draft a QB that would start day 1.
If you are Cousins why on earth would you pick NE over MN assuming offers were similar.

Like almost everything spoken of in this forum, one fan's idea of what he wants probably won't come to pass.

 

[thestardawg]

My son insists we grab Harrison then an OT and then sign Cousins for three seasons. He thinks Cousins will be cheaper coming off an injury and in the meanwhile you draft his replacement (like maybe in 2025) and let him learn a couple seasons.

It’s not a terrible idea especially if you’re not convinced any of the 2024 QBs are the MAN.

Isnt the 2025 QB draft very light though? I believe it's one of the worst classes in years.