Protecting the Shields -- The Nick Cafardo Thread

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LeoCarrillo

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or a comma, after "were".



It's freakin' twitter, anyway. Never was supposed to be edited journalism.


And as such, it would help if he could make clear on first pass what he meant. There were three possible meanings to that tweet: yours or that journalists were underselling the team's interest or that the team was underplaying their interest.
 

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On the case:
 
Buchholz has been experiencing inflammation, but why it didn’t clear up by now given he’s been on medication is anyone’s guess. But the word is loud and clear now. He’s got to pitch through any soreness and stiffness he may be having.
 

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Peavy is ideal because he’s got that bulldog mentality and can handle postseason.
 
The biggest positive is that both pitchers have worked with Red Sox pitching coach Juan Nieves, who speaks highly of both of them. Matt Thornton has already come over from the White Sox per Nieves’s recommendation. For a pitcher to be able to have familiarity with a pitching coach when you change teams, I think is huge.
 
No mention of his actual pitching. Maybe that's because . . . .
Jake Peavy post-seaon. 0-2; 12.10 ERA. 2 starts. One lasted 4.1 (8H 8R); the other lasted 5.1 (11H 5R). And those were in 2005-6 when he was young, healthy and studly.
 
Anyone can make a number of rational arguments why those numbers shouldn't matter.  But only Nick Cafardo ignores them.
 

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Jason Bay just got released by the Marlins. Even Nick couldn't suggest picking him up.
 
Or will he?
 
I thought he was playing in Seattle? Anyway, yes, Nick will suggest Bay might have something left for the Sox.
 

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We need to play a guess his one-liner regarding Bay. My guesses:

"Surprised to see the Mariners release Jason Bay when they are always short on great hitters."

"Have to wonder if all time great guy Jason Bay ends up helping a team down the stretch."

"Guessing the Yankees are kicking themselves for picking up Soriano (and a few million of his salary) instead of waiting a week to get Jason Bay for free."
 

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"In a classic game of what might have been, it's hard not to wonder how things would have turned out differently for both sides, had the Red Sox not made the short-sighted decision to let Bay walk."
 

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Will the Sox can sign him and include in a package for Cliff Lee?  Only time will tell. 
 

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"A major league source is telling me that the Red Sox could have their eye on their former superstar, Jason Bay, recently designated for assignment by the Seattle Mariners. 'His bat speed has improved, so I'm surprised Seattle let him go.' Bay's pressence in the clubhouse will also go a long way in making teammates forget the 2011 circus and Manny Ramirez."
 
Every Cafardo piece needs a shot at Manny Ramirez. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
 

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"With the Rangers' experiment with Manny Ramirez resulting in a predictable failure - why do teams keep giving a known PED user and travel secretary abuser a chance? - one wonders if they'll now turn their eyes to Jason Bay, who'll have extra motivation to strike back at the suddenly resurgent Mariners, whom the Rangers face 9 more times this year."
 

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"[SIZE=10pt]Things that make you go hummmm… a source tells me that old friend and all around good guy Jason Bay might be a good fit for the Sox. Bay’s positive attitude could make a difference down the stretch, unlike the past few years of clubhouse lawyers and declining overpriced all stars who undid all the great work the under appreciated Bobby Valentine tried to accomplish."[/SIZE]
 

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So Nick apparently wrote a terrible article today about George Scott, and instead we have nine ten posts about what people think Nick might say about Jason Bay? For shame. Get to criticizin' the real stuff so I don't have to click through to his articles!
 
-edited to up the post count
 

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"Is the Red Sox outfield not white enough?  Ellsbury, Gomes, and Victorino may all look white, but they're not.  With this in mind, will the Sox brass entertain the return of Jason Bay?"
 

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I'm beginning to wonder if that scout in Moneyball complaining about the player with an ugly girlfriend was him:

It’s always great to have veteran pitchers down the stretch and into the playoffs


Peavy gives the Red Sox swagger, toughness and is battle-tested when it counts.


It's like this guy is a walking hunch.
 

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The paragraphed version of JP Ricciardi's resume was fascinating. Do you know that every move he made in Toronto was awesome and that every good move that the Mets have made, he's been the point man? And also all of his colleagues want him back in the big chair for a team in the majors? Just because they all feel like getting fleeced. Little known nugget, BJ Ryan was a terrific signing for Toronto. 
 
Also, Nick would have loved to see how George Steinbrenner would react to the ARod situation. But don't ask him how "the Boss" would react because he has NO IDEA! That's just part of the awesomeness that is the team with the 13th most wins in the majors. Oh yeah, they might do something in the offseason with free agency but Nick doesn't know because he's too worried about zombie George Steinbrenner would do about ARod. 
 
Today's column was trolling this board. Just awful. 
 

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As I recall, BJ Ryan received a Papelbon-esque 5/$55M contract...the significant difference being it was for BJ Ryan.

Also, the mention of the Vernon Wells/Alex Rios contracts near the end was hilarious -- very "Hey, you can't win 'em all!" about two contracts that effectively killed the team.
 

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Also, if John Henry does anything with his new ownership of the Globe, let it be putting an end to the putrid editorial "we" Nick uses.

We'd all appreciate it, John. Do the right thing here.
 

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The immediate ridicule he gets in response are a fantastic corollary to the advent of twitter and nick's idiocy.
 

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Van Everyman said:
Also, if John Henry does anything with his new ownership of the Globe, let it be putting an end to the putrid editorial "we" Nick uses.

We'd all appreciate it, John. Do the right thing here.
And for God's sake, try to get it through his skull that when talking about baseball, we say "flied out", not "flew out."
 

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Van Everyman said:
As I recall, BJ Ryan received a Papelbon-esque 5/$55M contract...the significant difference being it was for BJ Ryan.

Also, the mention of the Vernon Wells/Alex Rios contracts near the end was hilarious -- very "Hey, you can't win 'em all!" about two contracts that effectively killed the team.
 
Ryan received 5/47 from Toronto. That was the largest contract for a reliever in MLB history at the time. For that money he gave them 155 innings  and 75 saves over 4 seasons. 2 good seasons, 2 awful ones destroyed by injury. And he gave closer's money to Ryan after he had had one year closing for the O's.
 
Even if Ryan had stayed healthy that would have been a terrible deal. We've seen even good closers (Papelbon) not be worth similar contracts even when not getting injured.
 
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Maybe it's because I didn't look for it first thing in the morning on Sunday, but where do you find this Nick Cafardo stuff, to ridicule?  While watching the PawSox game I spent 20 minutes searching and couldn't find anything (boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox).  That site is fairly terrible to navigate in some instances.
 
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Two things, as I definitely wasn't clear:
 
1. Yes, but that's blocked.  Or is a Boston Globe paid for article.  People here pay for the Boston Globe online?  I'm surprised.  Is Sunday Notes pay for only now?  A lot of articles, if you catch them the day they go online, you can read for free, then they are eventually moved over to paid content (and you may get more than a day before it's moved over, I'm not sure).
 
Also, of note, recently I wanted to show some people at work the Mariano Rivera article where he met with long-time employees and staff.  In my search it was now behind the paid for wall, but I was also able to find it in Extra Bases for free.  So, that's how I got around it.  So I also was searching Extra Bases, to try and get around what I discovered to be a blocked article.  Hence, the 20 minutes for that and ....
 
2. I wish I had a screenshot, but at boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox, at say 7:00pm, so I'm on the front page of their Red Sox coverage, and there was no link whatsoever.  That was my complaint about searching.  I would think that it would still be there, on the front page, the night of the article.  But that might be because of #1.
 
Anyhow, that's why I originally led with: "Maybe it's because I didn't look for it first thing in the morning on Sunday ...".  And note the differences between boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox, the link I specifically mentioned, and bostonglobe.com ... what your "search result" returns.
 
Sorry, I wasn't clear, 74 wins.  Start writing that check, bro!
 

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I get the Sunday Globe delivered to my house. It's usually the first thing I do on Sunday mornings and has been for 25 years or so, it's a tough habit to break. 
 
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Yeah, I get a (CT) newspaper delivered every day, as well.  A lot of the time the weekday paper just ends up as fire pit fuel, but breaking the habit of leisurely reading the newspaper on Sunday is probably not going to happen.
 

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John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
I get the Sunday Globe delivered to my house. It's usually the first thing I do on Sunday mornings and has been for 25 years or so, it's a tough habit to break. 
 
The warning label didn't scare you off?
 
 

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I just hit Readability when I want to read a Globe article. It kills their Javascript redirect-on-scroll (which they use because anything else dings their SEO ratings, I wish Google would penalize them for that).
 

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Yeah, I get a (CT) newspaper delivered every day, as well.  A lot of the time the weekday paper just ends up as fire pit fuel, but breaking the habit of leisurely reading the newspaper on Sunday is probably not going to happen.
 
 
I used to subscribe to the JI when I lived in Manchester, CT.  I moved down to Mystic right before Superstorm Sandy.  Just recently, I started buying The Day on Sundays.  My in-laws get the Globe.  It is better than The Day or The Hartford Courant (which has really gone downhill over the years,) but I don't think there's much that I get out of it that I can't get off the web.  There's only a handful of articles a week that I read and find enlightening that I wouldn't read just surfing the web.
 
For national baseball coverage, I'll check out the woefully incomplete, but highly entertaining Baseball Think Factory Newsstand.  I used to be more of a Primate, but I've become more of a lurker in recent years.  The thread comments have become rehash or worse for the most part.
 

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I took out some personal stuff from the thread.

If you can't be civil to each other, then take it to PM. If someone has blocked you from PMing them, then you will have to swallow your pill of anger, and it is a medicine most bitter.

Go for a walk and interact with humans rather than polluting the board.
 
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