Real Fantasy Pigskin: Supplemental Draft Starts August 19th

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Kenny F'ing Powers said:
I'd like to do both a season of madden as well as a toral score grade from PFF.

From there we can gave rwo very different sources ro discuss this on.
 
Semantics don't entirely matter yet but how would we score a guy that ends up sitting on the bench or if one of our starters get hurt? Nomario mentioned replacement level but with PFF I'm not quite sure what that number would be. 25% of starting NFL players rank in the negative (totally guesstimate of a number but you get my point). 
 
Right now I'm looking at some backup players to fill some of my holes. To me I'd rather have an NFL starter on my team even though he might get a negative score in PFF, then an undrafted rookie who may ride someones bench all year. 
 

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Kenny F'ing Powers said:
I'd like to do both a season of madden as well as a toral score grade from PFF.

From there we can gave rwo very different sources ro discuss this on.
 
From my perspective, the more ways to evaluate the teams the better since each individual method has its flaws.  We can have the Madden simulation determine actual competition between teams during the regular season and playoffs and then we can also have the PFF champion and the Peoples Choice (voting) champion.  It'll be like soccer, with various kinds of trophies that you can win at the end of the season.
 
My only stipulation is that somebody else - nudge, nudge, KFP - needs to organize the effort to add up all the PFF grades for each team at the end of the season.  We probably will want a group of people chipping in as that sounds like a pain in the ass, but somebody has to run the show.
 

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Eh - wouldn't you want someone who is a spreadsheet junkie doing that? I could probably do that pretty quickly...
 

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F it.

Kirk Cousins, QB.

Perhaps we have our first QB controversy in RFP, but we are glad to select this guy. Mike Shanahan drafted him for one reason: RGIII is a torn ACL waiting to happen. Oh, and he can play in the NFL. So that is two reasons.

Plus, I need Flacco insurance.

Can someone PM for me? Thanks.
 

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Like many people here I have a few holes to fill since we started this exercise. A few of my rookies have taken their time getting on the field or haven't fully prepared for life in the NFL. Since we don't have backup spots for every position maybe they thought they would just get handed the NFL starting job. Well it's my job to tell these rookies to shut the fuck up and sit on the bench. 
 
First benched rookie, Menelik Watson.
 
The San Francisco 49ers select: RT, Charles Brown
 

 
Since Menelik has seen under 10 minutes of practice so far this year I needed to come up with a backup plan. Watson was already very raw, and missing most of camp is not what he needed to succeed in the NFL. Luckily there are still a few starting tackles in the NFL ready to take his place. 
 
In the Saints camp there was expected to be a battle for Drew Brees' blind side. They let Jermon Bushrod walk in the offseason so they were confident in the players looking to take his place. After just the first week of camp Charles Brown was head and shoulders above Jason Smith and rookie Terron Armstead and took full control of the Saints starting LT job. 
 
Brown is a former second round pick who has experience on both the left and right side. He's been given the oppourtunity to start for the 49ers on the right side for the foreseeable future. Let's see if this lights a fire under Watson's ass. 
 

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Duke Ihenacho, SS. You can never have too many DBs and while my starting SS hasn't gotten injured yet, with Polamalu its just a matter of time.  A 2012 UDFA, Nacho has been the talk of Broncos camp, making plays all over the field in practice and in the first preseason games, and by most accounts has all but won the starting SS job alongside Rahim Moore.  There's a lot of risk here as this guy has no track record when the games count but I consider it a decent gamble on a promising young safety that could payoff big down the line, especially as Polamalu gets injured or needs replacement.  I can also play him in a "big nickel" package alongside Weddle and Polamalu, a nice option given that my other nickel candidate, Darius Slay, has a very different skill set as a primarily outside CB.

 
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The LA Rams select OG Ronald Leary.
 

 
While he just had his knee scoped, the second-year player Leary was having an excellent preseason after being expected to step into the LG spot in Dallas. He'll likely get it back either opening day or week two. With Dallas Thomas slated to start on the interior and his subpar camp, we're looking to firm up the interior of the line. Leary provides much-needed depth.
 
PMing Tito now.
 

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DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
 
Semantics don't entirely matter yet but how would we score a guy that ends up sitting on the bench or if one of our starters get hurt? Nomario mentioned replacement level but with PFF I'm not quite sure what that number would be. 25% of starting NFL players rank in the negative (totally guesstimate of a number but you get my point). 
 
Right now I'm looking at some backup players to fill some of my holes. To me I'd rather have an NFL starter on my team even though he might get a negative score in PFF, then an undrafted rookie who may ride someones bench all year. 
 
That's one big problem with it, but also it'd have to be weighted for positional value.  What the hell would it be worth if Justin Tucker gives you more points than Drew Brees?
 

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phragle said:
 
That's one big problem with it, but also it'd have to be weighted for positional value.  What the hell would it be worth if Justin Tucker gives you more points than Drew Brees?
 
I wouldn't have a problem with that.
 

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OK.....1st time so be easy.
 
I didnt see where this guy had been picked so...and I have been told due to delays and skips that we can pick anytime....
 
The Kansas City Chiefs select     Matthew Slater  DB formerly with NEP.

 
All three phases.
 

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With my RB2 seemingly doomed to be on the IR or PUP for the rest of his career, I need to back fill that slot with someone new: Joseph Randle, RB, DAL
 
 
I will PM myt1.
 

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The Tactical Turtlenecks select



Charles Woodson. He’s not old - he’s experienced, and he’ll take the role as the veteran leader of our secondary. The rest of our secondary is young and should see tangible benefits with a HOF talent like Woodson around.
 
Sending PM now.
 

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Should have said something earlier but I'm leaving for college in three days and I'm really not prepared for the draft at all
 
Skip me for now and if someone wants to take over my team for the supplemental draft I'd be very amenable to that. We can be co-owners for any future league happenings. 
 
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Very interested to see who people target here and what positions they deem important to backup on their team. Funny to see all the Pats guys taken so far. It figures though.
 

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There's one player who I can't believe didn't get selected in the regular draft. He's the last member of the 2012 first-round class to be selected - even A.J. Jenkins and Brandon Weeden are off the board. So did he have a terrible rookie season? No, he logged 6 sacks. And he just turned 23 last month. In this case, the best player available coincides with need - with Bruce Irvin suspended and Quentin Coples hurt, my defense needs pass-rushing help. The Cleveland Ravens select:
 


 
OLB Whitney Mercilus, Texans
 
Mercilus logged six sacks and two forced fumbles last year while playing about 50% of snaps. With Connor Barwin's departure, he figures to take a bigger role in the Houston defense. In my D, he'll start early in the year and rotate in heavily once everyone is healthy. I'll add him to my stable of value second-yard players (Gilmore, Coples, Irvin, Pierce, Konz) who figure to make up a lot of my young core group going forward. Unlike those other players, he only has 9.5 fingers, though:
 


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Nice pick, Nomario. Not that he would've made it back to me next round, but he's someone who was on my short list and a guy I was kind of surprised didn't get picked in the original draft. 
 

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Really psyched this kid fell to me. I need o-line depth and after being signed as a UDFA by the Seahawks he's somewhat shown he has starter potential and can play at tackle or guard.
 
With my first pick in the supplemental draft the Patriots select Alvin Bailey, OL

 
6'3" 320lb'er has been a BIG surprise in Seahawks camp and has shown great ability in his preseason games. Really happy to welcome him to my o-line, and he'll continue with my group of young versatile explosive linemen.
 
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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
Really psyched this kid fell to me. I need o-line depth and after being signed as a UDFA by the Seahawks he's proved he has starter potential and can play at tackle or guard.
Only you would say a rookie UDFA has "proved" anything after two preseason games.
 

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Super Nomario said:
Only you would say a rookie UDFA has "proved" anything after two preseason games.
 
Yeah, I know. He hasn't really done shit. Can't a guy be optimistic?
 
Edit: Just trying to talk my guys up!
 

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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
Yeah, I know. He hasn't really done shit. Can't a guy be optimistic?
If you said you love his potential, I wouldn't have said anything (though I would have smirked to myself at my keyboard, sitting in my mom's basement). But "proved" is just silly.
 

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Super Nomario said:
If you said you love his potential, I wouldn't have said anything (though I would have smirked to myself at my keyboard, sitting in my mom's basement). But "proved" is just silly.
 
You're right. It was a poor choice of words. I edited it. No one has "proved" a damn thing yet. His potential is intriguing considering the Hawks are giving him the starting nod at guard.
 

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Kfp and I almost picked him in the last round but took a flyer on the beast.

Whitney I mean. He is supposed to be focussed on a better pass rush now.
 

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Evan Dietrich-Smith, C 

 
He's used to having great QB hands on his ass. They say he looks to be improved in camp. 
 
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Fuck. I totally forgot about this. Sorry - I didn't get a PM. 
 
THE LOL GIANTS select: Kevin Ogletree, WR
 

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How does the clock work overnight? BSJ has until _____ to make his pick.
 

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BSJ has until noon. Doesn't really matter though. If OFT picks BSJ could hold this up another 6 hours if he's unavailable. Can we just put people on auto-skip if their clock runs out? Kind of like a fantasy draft.
 

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Turrable said:
Should have said something earlier but I'm leaving for college in three days and I'm really not prepared for the draft at all
 
Skip me for now and if someone wants to take over my team for the supplemental draft I'd be very amenable to that. We can be co-owners for any future league happenings. 
 
something something Shahid Khan
 
Anybody interested in co-owning Turrable's team?
 

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Hard for me to tell who has/hasn't been drafted, so here goes.

First off, Go Fuck Yourselves.

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The Ukiah Raiders select Colts DT Josh Chapman. Coming off an ACL tear, but a beefy run stopper.

With their second pick, the San Anselmo Raiders select Green Bay Packers OT David Bakhtiari. We hope that we can move him to RT and potentially provide some competition for the only weak spot on our offensive line. Or that we can trade him for the rights to Aaron Hernandez.
 

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Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
BSJ is online now so if SF121 pmed him then we should be all good.
 
@9:56 PM last night.
 
We skipping him again?
 

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JR Sweezy, RG

 
Fuck you Brandon Moore.
 
EDIT: PM sent to ESC. Got some shit to do tonight - mainly sleep - so I'm jumping in on BSJ's second clock of the day. Hopefully, he didn't wanna get Sweezy. If he did, he shoulda hit him some Sweezy in the time allotted. 
 

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JR Sweezy, RG
I'm intrigued by Sweezy. PFF gave him a brutal -14.6 last year, but the bulk of that (-11.8) was the first three weeks of the season, including an epically bad -7.5 week 1. After that, he was passable. Considering he played defensive tackle in college and was switching sides of the ball on the fly at the game's highest level, I think it went reasonably, and there's some upside there.
 

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Alright then. Fuck it. 121 picked, so I'm up.
 
With their second pick in the supplemental draft the New England Patriots select Logan Ryan, CB

 
You can never have too many corners. He's looked pretty decent so far in preseason, and he has good size, speed and quickness. In Ryan I get a former Rutgers player and current Patriot. Bill would be proud.
 
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