Quite possibly the highlight of the offseason.Ron Swanson to start a bacon-on-a-stick stand at Fenway would be exciting.
Quite possibly the highlight of the offseason.Ron Swanson to start a bacon-on-a-stick stand at Fenway would be exciting.
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That feels like a pretty reasonable contract. I was thinking he was going to get 7 years and 30m.
Does JBJ have any more money on his contract?If Swanson goes elsewhere as he ought to do... what are they spending money on? Taking on an unforeseen bad contract in a trade?
This is amazing, well done!Courtship
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Ask for a bargain
Invoke dismay
Move on
If last year is a guide….Pivetta to the Tigers for Eduardo Rodriguez and two fringe prospects?Does JBJ have any more money on his contract?
Disappointing to see the MFYs do what it takes to resign their free agents AND improve the team as well. Meanwhile, we still have no outfield, no shortstop, a rotation mostly comprising guys who threw less than 80 innings apiece last year, etc...
Not even a bad contract.
The fact Bloom didn't want to sign an oft injured pitcher that would cost a draft pick is a sign of no plan? This place has really gotten insane.Not even a bad contract.
What the hell are we doing. There's no plan. The Red Sox are just taking the $40 million in cap room to the bank and playing us all for fools.
I know who I'm picking in the Tommy John contest!The fact Bloom didn't want to sign an oft injured pitcher that would cost a draft pick is a sign of no plan? This place has really gotten insane.
Nearly Every other big market team is making big moves to try to improve and the Sox are going in the wrong direction. There isn't an excuse for every Sox screw up. They are big market bargain hunters. It is what it is.The fact Bloom didn't want to sign an oft injured pitcher that would cost a draft pick is a sign of no plan? This place has really gotten insane.
Yes, if you ignore the ~175m they've spent so far, they really haven't done much of anything this offseason.Nearly Every other big market team is making big moves to try to improve and the Sox are going in the wrong direction. There isn't an excuse for every Sox screw up. They are big market bargain hunters. It is what it is.
We are prone to hyperbole around here but at some point it's almost absurd not to acknowledge we have tipped towards extreme risk aversion
They’ve signed Yoshida, Jansen, Martin, and Rodriguez. Three relievers and a LF. +4.5 fWAR.Yes, if you ignore the ~175m they've spent so far, they really haven't done much of anything this offseason.
Other then Bogey, yes I do.They’ve signed Yoshida, Jansen, Martin, and Rodriguez. Three relievers and a LF.
They still need a SP, SS, maybe a RF, probably a DH, could use a C.
Do you think it’s been a good off-season so far?
They’ve also arguably considerably overpaid for Yoshida.They’ve signed Yoshida, Jansen, Martin, and Rodriguez. Three relievers and a LF.
They still need a SP, SS, maybe a RF, probably a DH, could use a C.
Do you think it’s been a good off-season so far?
Just wait until we get 3 players for $15M a year that we haven’t heard of, putting us over the tax threshold.Not even a bad contract.
What the hell are we doing. There's no plan. The Red Sox are just taking the $40 million in cap room to the bank and playing us all for fools.
Oh, please. Tired of the shills on this board acting like they are on the Sox payroll. You make it sound like it's coming out of your pocket. Henry had more money than God. We haven't done crap this off season. This team is a joke. No outfield, no shortstop, no catcher, no first baseman and no #1 and #2 starters. Heck I can push that to no #3 starter.The fact Bloom didn't want to sign an oft injured pitcher that would cost a draft pick is a sign of no plan? This place has really gotten insane.
Other than bogey? We lost a pillar and added role.players and a lottery ticket from Japan.Other then Bogey, yes I do.
The plan to alienate the fandom is certainly working really well. The likelihood of Devers signing seems to be dwindling. So what then? Trade for prospects and start the whole process over again until it's time to pay your own talent? It's disheartening to put it mildly.Other than bogey? We lost a pillar and added role.players and a lottery ticket from Japan.
Following a 78 win season, when we had some payroll to use, and when every other actual "big" market team is improving their team was not the time to try to win playing chess while everyone else is lighting the chessboard on fire. It's exasperating that this team alienates and then loses star after star and the "plan" still gets defended.
I've been here for 18 years. I've never been this disheartened. I've never seen other fans this disheartened.The plan to alienate the fandom is certainly working really well. The likelihood of Devers signing seems to be dwindling. So what then? Trade for prospects and start the whole process over again until it's time to pay your own talent? It's disheartening to put it mildly.
I personally haven't been this heartbroken since J.T.'s one-eyed cat diedI've been here for 18 years. I've never been this disheartened. I've never seen other fans this disheartened.
Then you need to go rewatch the 78 and 86 and 03 seasons.I've been here for 18 years. I've never been this disheartened. I've never seen other fans this disheartened.
I can understand how the offseason might look to some but here is a cliché reminder that the season doesn't start tomorrow.Oh, please. Tired of the shills on this board acting like they are on the Sox payroll. You make it sound like it's coming out of your pocket. Henry had more money than God. We haven't done crap this off season. This team is a joke. No outfield, no shortstop, no catcher, no first baseman and no #1 and #2 starters. Heck I can push that to no #3 starter.
I’m not great at math, but you might not have been on this one too.Then you need to go rewatch the 78 and 86 and 03 seasons.
Disheartened and devastated are different thingsThen you need to go rewatch the 78 and 86 and 03 seasons.
Don’t really care about “the last 18 years“ part. Padres are working on 5 plus decades of futility, which is driving their decision-making. Sox fans should have some freakin perspective.I’m not great at math, but you might not have been on this one too.
Ok, that‘s a fair point!Disheartened and devastated are different things
This tooI’m not great at math, but you might not have been on this one too.
The last 18 years have been a fucking joyride. Of course you have not been disheartened.I've been here for 18 years. I've never been this disheartened. I've never seen other fans this disheartened.
I understand the “there are starving kids out there” mindset and agree with it. On the other hand, finding complacency in another’s futility isn’t a winning strategy and nobody should be making edicts on how to feel or what perspective to take. That’s a bit aggressive.Don’t really care about “the last 18 years“ part. Padres are working on 5 plus decades of futility, which is driving their decision-making. Sox fans should have some freakin perspective.
What kind of successful rebuild includes spending a boatload of money on a 29 yr old who’s never played in MLB and 2 old (35, 36) relievers??? These seem like moves a team already in the mix would make to bolster the pen and take a flyer on Yoshida. Not sure how any of the 3 help us long term. Seems like money not well spent if we’re rebuilding.I can understand how the offseason might look to some but here is a cliché reminder that the season doesn't start tomorrow.
Also the MFY should be signing the guys they are as they are in a championship window.
The rebuild is taking time. It sucks but we have to be patient and hope it pays off.
Ok, well, disagree. We have the most rings this century. It’s not just “another’s futility.” Living amongst Twins fans, with a good franchise that nevertheless has a record playoff losing streak, I think fans on this site are expressing an astonishing level of entitlement. Fine if you think that’s aggressive. But appreciate what we’ve had at least. As someone who’s lived in 4 different MLB markets, I feel confident in saying that 90% of MLB fans would LOVE to have our last 20 years. And most wouldn’t be whining anywhere near the level we are on this site.I understand the “there are starving kids out there” mindset and agree with it. On the other hand, finding complacency in another’s futility isn’t a winning strategy and nobody should be making edicts on how to feel or what perspective to take. That’s a bit aggressive.
Just ask the NYY and their “death star”I can understand how the offseason might look to some but here is a cliché reminder that the season doesn't start tomorrow.
Also the MFY should be signing the guys they are as they are in a championship window.
The rebuild is taking time. It sucks but we have to be patient and hope it pays off.
Short term reliever deals are good trade bait, I suppose. I’d also suggest a great pen is a good way to steal close wins for a team that has some issues elsewhere. But yeah these are marginal moves for a team that needed to improve over last year and is now just trying to scrape back to even with last year’s iffy roster.What kind of successful rebuild includes spending a boatload of money on a 29 yr old who’s never played in MLB and 2 old (35, 36) relievers??? These seem like moves a team already in the mix would make to bolster the pen and take a flyer on Yoshida. Not sure how any of the 3 help us long term. Seems like money not well spent if we’re rebuilding.
Those relievers were probably signed to flip at the deadline.What kind of successful rebuild includes spending a boatload of money on a 29 yr old who’s never played in MLB and 2 old (35, 36) relievers??? These seem like moves a team already in the mix would make to bolster the pen and take a flyer on Yoshida. Not sure how any of the 3 help us long term. Seems like money not well spent if we’re rebuilding.
$24 mil added to annual payroll to maybe flip at the deadline feels very Pittsburgh Piratey.Those relievers were probably signed to flip at the deadline.
He was only half-kidding. ... Maybe 65%$24 mil added to annual payroll to maybe flip at the deadline feels very Pittsburgh Piratey.
Well, there's a strategy that I can really get behind! I'm going to watch this team every day for six months, pay $150 a ticket, $25 for a hot dog and a beer, so I can see who Chris Martin brings back in a trade!Those relievers were probably signed to flip at the deadline.
Wait, I thought we were all whining cause they weren't overpaying for free agents, it's so hard to keep upThey’ve also arguably considerably overpaid for Yoshida.
I think that might be what they’re going for unfortunately.$24 mil added to annual payroll to maybe flip at the deadline feels very Pittsburgh Piratey.