Gallo probably pushes Kepler out I’d think.Benni to the White Sox
Gallo to the Twins
Gallo probably pushes Kepler out I’d think.Benni to the White Sox
Gallo to the Twins
Interesting. Do we feel differently about the Yoshida contract (5/$90M) now, given that many saw Benintendi as a comp?5 years, $75 million for Benintendi
Seems to be more reasonable. I’d rather take the risk on Yoshida than commit 5/75 to Benintendi.Interesting. Do we feel differently about the Yoshida contract (5/$90M) now, given that many saw Benintendi as a comp?
Is there anywhere that splits out pitchers from batters to see the difference?There is a lot of research out there on aging curves. Here is a relatively recent one from Jeff Zimmerman: https://tht.fangraphs.com/aging-curves-revisited-damn-strikeouts/
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I think this is spot on. So when people say "they have no plan" I think what they really mean is "I don't like their plan".Bloom hasn't been perfect. The Renfroe and Benentendi deals were pretty bad, both with and without hindsight. But he very clearly has a plan -- contend as best as you can but be very careful about long term deals, at least until we have a lot of cost-controlled talent.
Lots of words to say what we already have: Chaim is not good as a GM and our team as of today is worse then it was on the last day of the 2022 season.Chad Jennings dug into this in The Athletic today, it's not pretty.
"Under Bloom, the Red Sox have executed 24 trades. In all but eight, prospects were a key piece of the return. Twelve of the trades involved giving up at least one experienced big league player or taking on the salary dump of an opposing big league player. Nine or so — depending on where you draw the prospect line — brought back notable prospects with perceived big-league upside. All told, the Red Sox acquired 25 minor leaguers via trade, and the return has been minimal so far. Of those 25 minor leaguers:
Those numbers do not include major league trade additions Jackie Bradley Jr., Hoy Park, Franchy Cordero, Austin Davis, Austin Brice and Matt Hall, all of whom were also designated for assignment after underwhelming — or, in the case of Park, nonexistent — stints on the Red Sox roster. According to FanGraphs, the only Red Sox trade additions worth at least 2 WAR the past three years were Alex Verdugo (5.1) and Nick Pivetta (3.9). Next highest on the list were Reese McGuire (1.3), Kyle Schwarber (1.2) and Adam Ottavino (0.6).
- Five have since reached the Major Leagues.
- Four have been designated for assignment.
- Six currently rank among the system’s top 30 prospects according to SoxProspects.com.
- None rank in Baseball America’s Top 10.
- Twelve have been exposed to the Rule 5 draft or else released into minor league free agency.
Of the 25 minor league additions, only Connor Wong, Franklin German and Josh Winckowski seem to have even modest opportunities to make the big league team this spring. Enmanuel Valdez, at No. 16, is the only one who currently ranks as a top 20 organizational prospect on SoxProspects.com, which calls him a “potential up-and-down, platoon bat.”"
https://theathletic.com/4006950/2022/12/16/red-sox-poor-trade-record/
If this is a serious question (forgive me if my sarcasm meter is non-functional) it's the latter. The Braves have Vaughn Grissom whom had a line of .291/.353/..440/.792 for a 121 OPS+ the last two months or so of the season in the majors, coming off a ludicrous .929 OPS as a 21 year old in AA (with a k rate below 15%), whom I assume is their starting SS if Swanson leaves.Is he their Swanson replacement (or utility caddy for a prospect)?
The Red Sox have acquired right-hander Wyatt Mills from the Royals in exchange for minor league righty Jacob Wallace and opened a spot on the roster by designating first baseman Eric Hosmer for assignment.
I don’t remember this, based on Whitlock? I don’t even really think leaving him unprotected was much of a mistake (they considered him a SP at the time and he learned a new pitch that spring), let alone what you’re saying.Just a little more than a year ago it seemed like the Yankees fans were complaining about Bloom having run circles around Cashman. Things change quickly.
Go get him IMO. His strikezone discipline and contact numbers have not taken the same trajectory as his results, so I think there's a very good chance he ends up a 100-110 OPS+ type with positive defensive value in RF. He now looks like his 36 HR season was a 2019 juiced ball artifact, but he has respectable XBH pop even without that.Gallo probably pushes Kepler out I’d think.
Thats the question. How does it compare to the other teams?So out of 25 prospects, 11 are still viable contributors to the big club. That's pretty good in the grand scheme of things, no?
Agreed, there is a plan, and it's a good one. It just requires the ability to find cheap talent, which he's done (Whitlock, Schreiber, Renfroe, Kiki, Strahm, Hill, Wacha).Bloom hasn't been perfect. The Renfroe and Benentendi deals were pretty bad, both with and without hindsight. But he very clearly has a plan -- contend as best as you can but be very careful about long term deals, at least until we have a lot of cost-controlled talent.
Straight out of Rays bullpen operating manual in having a wide diversity of arm angles in the bullpen.Wyatt Mills is an interesting bet on the new pitching sciences. He's a righties who works in and out from a low release point. Not a ton of velo, a very low spin 4-seamer with basically 9-3 spin, and really weird release point. For Wallace, I like it, and I bet Hosmer gets traded in the next 72 hours.
Well I think that if this team isn’t good in 2023 and 2024 Bloom will be fired, so he better have a plan.I think this is spot on. So when people say "they have no plan" I think what they really mean is "I don't like their plan".
It was yelled out by whateverwools- Sterling and Ormyn (?) - after the WC victory. That Bloom had it all figured out- after losing Betts they still have the overpricedunproductive stand-and-swing Yankees- are being sent home early yet again.I don’t remember this, based on Whitlock? I don’t even really think leaving him unprotected was much of a mistake (they considered him a SP at the time and he learned a new pitch that spring), let alone what you’re saying.
Aw man, now I am wishing we could hear Remy pronounce Norman Gorman.According to Ken Rosenthal, the Cardinals offered the A's their choice of TWO of these guys for Sean Murphy:
Norman Gorman, Juan Yepez, Alec Burleson, Dylan Carlson
Instead, the Cardinals were willing to ship away some intriguing names. Rosenthal explains that St. Louis offered Oakland two of the following four players: Dylan Carlson, Nolan Gorman, Alec Burleson and Juan Yepez.
https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/three-players-foiled-cardinals-plan-trade-sean-murphy-01gm5zmrhr1j
Would love to get Gorman or Yepez to DH.
Wait. How do we get both Kepler AND Hoskins by trading Verdugo and Hosmer??I just put together a three-team BTV trade that I think could actually happen with PHL, MIN, and BOS, in which we send Hosmer and Verdugo to PHL, Minnesota sends us Kepler and ~$2m, and PHL sends one of several modest prospect packages to the Twins — I didn't work it out in detail, but they have several pieces that could work dealing out of the back half of their top-20.
PHL is one of the few places where Verdugo and Hosmer reflect a considerable defensive upgrade. They trade some of Hoskins power for a 1B who can actually reliably scoop a throw; I think Verdugo would be a great fit in Philly, in particular, both attitudinally and for the ballpark. The Twins get some mid-tier prospects for an outfielder they seem done with.
We get an opportunity to play Hoskins at DH, his true position, and use him sparingly at 1B to protect Casas from the toughest lefties. Kepler gives us a defensive boost in the outfield, and maybe more if I'm right about his offensive potential.
He'll clear waivers and I assume he'd refuse any minor league assignment so he'll be a free agent.Is the assumption that Hosmer clears waivers and then they will trade him? I always see DFA as cut and need to step back and think about it.
Looks like he forget to add “and Hoskins to the Red Sox” after the prospect package to Minnesota.Wait. How do we get both Kepler AND Hoskins by trading Verdugo and Hosmer??
Maybe this is Chaim Bloom's secret account?Looks like he forget to add “and Hoskins to the Red Sox” after the prospect package to Minnesota.
So the most likely thing is that we lose him for nothing?He'll clear waivers and I assume he'd refuse any minor league assignment so he'll be a free agent.
We also got him for nothing.So the most likely thing is that we lose him for nothing?
Bloom strikes again!
The numbers are kinda solid against righties, but even they are really depressed by a crazy amount of walks to guys from the same side of the plate. Like 17 walks against 26 hits.In his brief big league career, he’s been tough on righties (239/361/321), but destroyed by lefties (365/397/596).
Jay Groome will come up and be an ace now.We also got him for nothing.
Yes, exactly. All of this afternoon's grading addled my brain. *melting face emoji*Looks like he forget to add “and Hoskins to the Red Sox” after the prospect package to Minnesota.
Did we just get roasted by the freaking Marlins?
I’m with you. I could see ‘23 be a fast advancing year for him.Fuck it, just call up Marcelo, say, "No pressure for real, just try your best to get a little bit better every day", and roll with it. He's 20, so the fans will go easy on him for a while, I'm sure. If Julio can be a star at 21, Marcelo should have no problems at 20.
Obviously, this is tongue in cheek, but I am way more bullish on Mayer's advancement than a lot of folks.
Almost the entire offseason is "recently." Bogaerts signed with the Padres eight days ago.That they are just inquiring about Rojas now makes me wonder how in depth and thought out the backup plan to replacing Bogaerts is. Or course, who knows if the rumor has any validity to it anyways. Seems like lots of checking in, inquiring, but not much focus or progress.
Oh sure; I would have thought they would have laid the groundwork for possible deals prior to losing Boagerts, having done scenario planning mapping out possible paths to replace him prior to it happening, but maybe that’s not how these things work.Almost the entire offseason is "recently." Bogaerts signed with the Padres eight days ago.
Let me watch him in Portland for a few weeks at least.Fuck it, just call up Marcelo, say, "No pressure for real, just try your best to get a little bit better every day", and roll with it. He's 20, so the fans will go easy on him for a while, I'm sure. If Julio can be a star at 21, Marcelo should have no problems at 20.
Obviously, this is tongue in cheek, but I am way more bullish on Mayer's advancement than a lot of folks.
You don't think they had any plans on what to do if Bogaerts left? The Sox could have called Miami the day after X signed with San Diego and Rosenthal just found out about it. Bloom may not be having a great offseason, but having plan A, B, C and D is pretty much what any competent GM and his staff would have. The plan could have been X, see what Correa wants, check in with Swanson, something else we don't know about, and Rojas later down that list. And he could've been working all of those fallback options after failing to resign X. Heck, he probably did all of that before X resigned but nothing was going to get done until X made his decision.Oh sure; I would have thought they would have laid the groundwork for possible deals prior to losing Boagerts, having done scenario planning mapping out possible paths to replace him prior to it happening, but maybe that’s not how these things work.
Regardless, Rojas isn’t really a very good player so not so disappointed in that one.
Oh, they most certainly did and his name is Trevor Story.Oh sure; I would have thought they would have laid the groundwork for possible deals prior to losing Boagerts, having done scenario planning mapping out possible paths to replace him prior to it happening, but maybe that’s not how these things work.
They’ve been pretty vague about it; not definitive one way or the other. Here’s the latest.Question re: Story at SS: has the front office ever once said anything about the possibility of Story in a role other than 2B? A lot of people here seem to think that's a given and I'm not sure if I missed a press conference where they intimated it or something.
Hard to imagine our suddenly penny pitching brain trust wanting to start Mayer's service time clock ticking before he is good and ready.Fuck it, just call up Marcelo, say, "No pressure for real, just try your best to get a little bit better every day", and roll with it. He's 20, so the fans will go easy on him for a while, I'm sure. If Julio can be a star at 21, Marcelo should have no problems at 20.
Obviously, this is tongue in cheek, but I am way more bullish on Mayer's advancement than a lot of folks.
Besides Bloom did any Sox fan feel like we got a fair return for 18 mil a year?Interesting. Do we feel differently about the Yoshida contract (5/$90M) now, given that many saw Benintendi as a comp?
His stats in Japan are crazy good and the projections have him at a 3 WAR player or so next year. Obviously there is a wider range of outcomes, both positive and negative. But based on the projections, it's certainly fair value - the bigger question is whether or not they actually needed to go that high to get him, or if they were bidding against themselves.Besides Bloom did any Sox fan feel like we got a fair return for 18 mil a year?
My understanding was that isn’t in question and both the player and the agent confirmed as much.His stats in Japan are crazy good and the projections have him at a 3 WAR player or so next year. Obviously there is a wider range of outcomes, both positive and negative. But based on the projections, it's certainly fair value - the bigger question is whether or not they actually needed to go that high to get him, or if they were bidding against themselves.
I wouldn't read too much into a player's first press conference in a foreign country run through an interpreter.My understanding was that isn’t in question and both the player and the agent confirmed as much.