Revis: Reportedly Signs with the Jets

[finnVT]

 
How does the top players salaries affect the overall team cap calculations?  The cap doesn't go up based on the salaries of the top players.  It goes up based on the calculated share of NFL revenue that players receive.  The words "existing player salaries" are not present at all in the following explanation:
 
http://www.askthecommish.com/SalaryCap/faq.aspx
 
 
I'm not being intentionally obtuse.  I don't think you or quint has explained this position well at all.

I think the argument is that players having high cap hits is likely to make teams be willing to raise the players' % in future CBA negotiations.  I.e., if teams can sign whoever they want while sitting at 92%, there's very little internal pressure to increase the players' allotment, whereas if, say, Kraft, wants the Pats to be able to fit Brady, Revis and a few other players who are on very high salaries, then maybe they're willing to up the cap %.  
 
I'm not sure I buy the argument, because I think NFL owners are more principled than this during CBA negotiations, but that's the line of thinking as I understand it.

 

[jsinger121]

3 minutes

 

[ivanvamp]

With or without Revis, the Patriots will win the AFC East and probably secure a first round bye, and thus will likely be in the AFC Championship game.
 
But Revis makes this a Super Bowl championship team.
 
And I want another Super Bowl championship.

 

[Ed Hillel]

RING RING RING RING

 

[The Social Chair]

The defensive line is going to need to provide more QB pressure next year.

 

[Shelterdog]

 Is that real schefter or fake schefter?

 

[jsinger121]

 Is that real schefter or fake schefter?

 
fake. it was my asshole friend who changed his twitter.

 

[timelysarcasm]

 Is that real schefter or fake schefter?

 
It was fake, and got removed pretty quickly. Not quickly enough to save me a mini heart attack when I saw it though.

 

[loshjott]

No way anything outside of Pats could be a "done deal" at 4pm ET.

 

[Shelterdog]

Interestingly Browner is also a free agent now--they didn't pick up his option.
 
And Fitzpatrick sucks ass.  You don't get replaced by the double-headed monster of Hoyer-Mallet if you're a middle of the pack QB>

 

[soxhop411]

Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry  24s24 seconds ago
 
If Patriots don't pick up Browner's option, they'll save over $4 million in salary-cap space.

 

[jsinger121]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  10s11 seconds ago
Sense out of New England is that Darrelle Revis is likely to be a Jet, per sources. NE still will make final push. Not over yet.

 

[Corsi]

playing hardball, eh?

 

[RedOctober3829]

 

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  47s47 seconds ago
Sense out of New England is that Darrelle Revis is likely to be a Jet, per sources. NE still will make final push. Not over yet.
 

 

[johnmd20]

 
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  10s11 seconds ago
Sense out of New England is that Darrelle Revis is likely to be a Jet, per sources. NE still will make final push. Not over yet.
 

 

 

[NickEsasky]

 
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  10s11 seconds ago
Sense out of New England is that Darrelle Revis is likely to be a Jet, per sources. NE still will make final push. Not over yet.
 

Fuuuuuuck.

 

[The Tax Man]

That doesn't jive with the Browner release.  

 

[E5 Yaz]

Schefter (real one) on TV: More likely Revis a Jet

 

[TomRicardo]

Wait they let Browner and Revis go?

 

[Van Everyman]

2013 here we come!

 

[RIrooter09]

What the fuck did they cut Browner for if they're going to lose Revis anyway? 

 
Going zone heavy with Butler, Ryan, Dennard, Arrington next year I guess.

 

[ivanvamp]

Well, we won a championship with Browner and Revis.  I'd prefer they win another one with them.  
 
But we KNOW the Patriots will be very good, even without them.  Because they ALWAYS are.

 

[loshjott]

MALCOLM, GO!

 

[BornToRun]

What the fuck is happening!?

 

[NickEsasky]

Letting Browner go seems like it's more likely Revis isn't back. Browner is useless if they can't play the same defense in the secondary. 

 

[PBDWake]

That doesn't jive with the Browner release.  

It does if they thought they needed the cap space to try and catch up on revis, but damnit they need to get him signed if that's the case.

 

[timelysarcasm]

 
Going zone heavy with Butler, Ryan, Dennard, Arrington next year I guess.

 
That list sucks. Please no.

 

[moondog80]

In Bill We Trust. More than ever.

 

[PayrodsFirstClutchHit]

So how many offseasons will the Jets have won now?

 

[patinorange]

2013 here we come!

Optimist

 

[bluefenderstrat]

Letting Browner go seems like it's more likely Revis isn't back. Browner is useless if they can't play the same defense in the secondary.

I thought I heard Reiss making a similar point earlier. Without Revis, they don't like Browner's skill set as much.

 

[jsinger121]

delete

 

[BornToRun]

Well, we won a championship with Browner and Revis.  I'd prefer they win another one with them.  
 
But we KNOW the Patriots will be very good, even without them.  Because they ALWAYS are.

This makes it easier. Browner and Revis may end up only being Patriots for one year but that year ended with a Lombardi trophy. I'll always be thankful to them for that.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Dianna Marie Russini ‏@NBCdianna  4m4 minutes ago
Sources tell me that Darrelle Revis wants 40 million guaranteed and Woody Johnson wants to make this happen #Jets

 

[ivanvamp]

I'd give him $40 mil guaranteed if I'm NE.  Where do I sign?

 

[jsinger121]

40 million? Are the Patriots insane. That is absolutely managable. 

 

[RedOctober3829]

This makes absolutely no sense.  Pay him $40 million guaranteed and get it over with.  I can't believe it's gotten down to this.

 

[DJnVa]

Letting Browner go seems like it's more likely Revis isn't back. Browner is useless if they can't play the same defense in the secondary. 

 
 
So unless Browner plays with Revis he's a useless DB?
 
Can you expand?
 

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

This is awesome.  
 
Half the board is so frantic about Browner's release that they are completely ignoring the other half of the board calmly explaining that Browner without Revis makes little sense.  People are winning at interneting today.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Awful news about Revis. Makes sense to dump Browner if you don't have an elite corner like Revis next to him. On the flip side this would sting a lot more if they lost the Superbowl to Seattle. 

 

[DJnVa]

This makes absolutely no sense.  Pay him $40 million guaranteed and get it over with.  I can't believe it's gotten down to this.

 
 
This could simply be that NE wasn't there yet, and now there's pressure on them.
 

 

[Just a bit outside]

 
 
So unless Browner plays with Revis he's a useless DB?
 
Can you expand?
 

If they lose Revis they may be going back to a zone defense and Browner is better at press man.

 

[RIrooter09]

This makes absolutely no sense.  Pay him $40 million guaranteed and get it over with.  I can't believe it's gotten down to this.

 
It's almost as if we only have a fraction of the information and are relying on rumors and pure speculation....

 

[PayrodsFirstClutchHit]

 
 
So unless Browner plays with Revis he's a useless DB?
 
Can you expand?
 

 
Same theory applies to McCourty according to sports talk radio.  That signing becomes a joke if the Pats lose Revis.

 

[RedOctober3829]

 
 
This could simply be that NE wasn't there yet, and now there's pressure on them.
 

Yes, very true.  All negotiating ploys until he signs on dotted line.  

 

[jsinger121]

Jody Breeze ‏@Blafell1  2m2 minutes ago
Idk what the #Pats doing. I just work there

 

[Ed Hillel]

This makes absolutely no sense.  Pay him $40 million guaranteed and get it over with.  I can't believe it's gotten down to this.

 
It does make no sense, which is why it's probably not true.

 

[NickEsasky]

 
 
So unless Browner plays with Revis he's a useless DB?
 
Can you expand?
 

Hyperbole obviously. However, if the Patriots lose Revis that creates quite the chain reaction in the secondary. Browner is a press corner. If he doesn't get a jam at the line he does not have the elite speed to keep up with receivers down the field. Losing Revis means you can't play one high safety with McCourty helping Browner et al deep. This can also have a huge effect on Chung too as if he's forced to play more pass coverage he's going to struggle. So while Browner isn't useless, losing Revis makes him a very different player in this defense. One that they probably don't think is worth the 4.5 million cap hit. 

 

[TheoShmeo]

Why does Browner make no sense without Revis?  That itself makes no sense to me.  Browner has a unique skill set and is a physical presence, with or without Revis.
 
I do not believe the Pats will let Revis go if the price tag is $40 mm guaranteed.

 

[Couperin47]

Here we go again: our roster has better 'value', is more fiscally responsible and is just good enough to almost win a ring.
 
sigh.