Well, time to talk about this.
2 fumbles before halftime. 1 returned for a TD. Immediately benched.
Does he even last the season?
2 fumbles before halftime. 1 returned for a TD. Immediately benched.
Does he even last the season?
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:He was sent right out there after the first one. He hasn't seen the field since the second. And given what happened to Maroney, he may never see it again.
Ed Hillel said:
You can't cut him yet, obviously, but he won't get many more chances.
Yup and Faulk. But in general, the odds are with the once-and-always theory.Mystic Merlin said:AP and Tiki are two notable examples.
I"m sure that was part of it bit i also recall that he started holding the ball more vertically (for lack of a better term) in his arm, tucked close to his side, than the traditional way ball carriers hang onReverend said:If I'm not mistaken (which I may be), Coughlin's stroke of genius was to tell Tiki to put both fucking arms around the ball instead of just one and then maybe he wouldn't drop it as much.
Let's put Bolden and Blount to the side as I'm on shakier grounds there.Ralphwiggum said:I can forgive a fumble when you get drilled but the second one and his reaction (or lack thereof) are inexcusable. It is too far because I actually do think there is a large talent gap between him and the other RBs but you just can't put the ball on the ground like that.
He will get a chance to redeem himself, though. The season is long and running backs get dinged up.
Third opinion: he carried the ball higher up against his body.steveluck7 said:I"m sure that was part of it bit i also recall that he started holding the ball more vertically (for lack of a better term) in his arm, tucked close to his side, than the traditional way ball carriers hang on
I think he thought he was down--which is obviously no excuse.Ed Hillel said:To be fair to Ridley, the second fumble was pretty fluky. Something was going on with that turf today and lots of guys were slipping. It's hard to really control holding the ball when you fall awkwardly like that. I was more concerned with his lack of effort afterwards.
Yes, and he looked funny carrying the ball the new way, but it pretty much solved his fumbling problem. Didn't seem to slow him down at all either. Will BB and his coaches try something, or will they declare him kind of hopeless?Soxy Brown said:That's what I recall too, Al. Tiki used to loosely carry the ball, basically holding it only with his hand and his forearm, with one side of the ball completely exposed and away from his body. Like this:
Coughlin and the Giants' staff coached him to hold it high and tight, tucked against his body at all times. That's how Tiki solved his fumbling problem.
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:Well, time to talk about this.
2 fumbles before halftime. 1 returned for a TD. Immediately benched.
Does he even last the season?
The breathing room is the fact that the division is really awful. That's why the Pats are 1-0, not 0-1. They're extremely likely to win 10.dcmissle said:He does, but only because in the immediate future Ridley will not be put in the position to cost them games. He'd better get used to sitting for a while.
They can't afford him right now. I'm surprised by the surprise over the difficulty of today's win. People need to remember they lost a ton this offseason. And they need to recognize that on paper -- which is where we will be the first few weeks of the season -- it takes two hands, not one, to count the teams that are clearly superior and deeper from a talent standpoint.
I don't think they will waste his talent, but I also don't think they will position him to cost us games. The Pats have zero margin of error right now in the race to 10 wins. Every game will be a struggle, road games particularly.
dcmissle said:
He does, but only because in the immediate future Ridley will not be put in the position to cost them games. He'd better get used to sitting for a while.
They can't afford him right now. I'm surprised by the surprise over the difficulty of today's win. People need to remember they lost a ton this offseason. And they need to recognize that on paper -- which is where we will be the first few weeks of the season -- it takes two hands, not one, to count the teams that are clearly superior and deeper from a talent standpoint.
I don't think they will waste his talent, but I also don't think they will position him to cost us games. The Pats have zero margin of error right now in the race to 10 wins. Every game will be a struggle, road games particularly.
ragnarok725 said:
Really? I'd love to hear it...
dcmissle said:
Right now,
SF, Sea, GB, Den., No, Atl, and Cincy -- that's 7, comfortably on 2 hands, and it's without trying very hard.
You are dead wrong. NE outgained Buffalo 431-286, forced 9 punts and 2 TOs and possessed the ball for over 37 minutes. The three TOs kept Buffalo in the game. Ridley has changed the complexion of the last two games that mattered. He needs to fix this or he needs to be gone.dcmissle said:
Right now,
SF, Sea, GB, Den., No, Atl, and Cincy -- that's 7, comfortably on 2 hands, and it's without trying very hard.
We haven't really seen Vereen when he's taking a majority of the carries (particularly between the tackles) but to my eye Ridley runs lower and does more after first contact. It isn't enough of a difference to outweigh the fumbling, though. I guess we will see, I definitely could be wrong.TheoShmeo said:Let's put Bolden and Blount to the side as I'm on shakier grounds there.
But fumbling aside, why do you say that the gap is wide between him and Vereen? I know that Ridley has produced more but Vereen seems to pile up yards and catches whenever he gets the chance. It's hard to make an apples to apples with these two but I just don't get why you are saying that.
You are right that they will probably come back to Ridley out of necessity. I would opt to do so only when I had to and certainly not in the next few weeks.
On the flip side, Buffalo generously contributed about a zillionty-seven penalty yards.ShaneTrot said:You are dead wrong. NE outgained Buffalo 431-286, forced 9 punts and 2 TOs and possessed the ball for over 37 minutes. The three TOs kept Buffalo in the game. Ridley has changed the complexion of the last two games that mattered. He needs to fix this or he needs to be gone.
I'd have them about the same before the year.SMU_Sox said:Hooray for massive overreactions to one week!
Stitch01 said:Meh its not a crazy list. I wouldn't say Atlanta, Cin, or NO are clearly superior or GB and Den are better by much but that's about right, top fivish team.
Sure, if they have 3 horrible, uncharacteristic turnovers every week, it will be problematic. Which I think you seem to understand, based on your use of "this weekend".dcmissle said:
Thanks. Anyone who thinks that the Pats this weekend could hang in the game played right now between SF and GB is fucking dreaming.
Yesterday: "Ridley is the most talented RB on this team"SMU_Sox said:Hooray for massive overreactions to one week!
This.Ed Hillel said:Sure, if they have 3 horrible, uncharacteristic turnovers every week, it will be problematic. Which I think you seem to understand, based on your use of "this weekend".