I damn near ran off the road listening to this segment driving in today. Hilarious!
RIP Toucher and Rich Show ... It was fun while it lasted
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T&R were constantly beating on this quote: "I used a three-four-five pythagorean theory to square that corner."
Nesn passed on having Fred do a promo for Cuts for a Cause at the game tonight. Pretty shitty.
Probably D&C (or Wolfe) tried to stop it. Bad taste (given that it's a charity event) by WEEI and NESN if true
Here's Rich's post on Facebook:
Apparently, NESN "passed" on allowing us to do our yearly promotion of Cuts For A Cause during their broadcast of a Bruins game. Fred and I have met some of the great kids that the Tufts Floating Hospital For Children helps out. Almost all of the people I've met over at NESN are good people with seemingly good hearts. That's why I am so shocked they have decided not to let us promote the event as in the past. I sincerely hope this has nothing to do with morning show radio politics that NESN is involved with. I'm speechless. Truly saddened.
Gotta think this was WEEI-related. I understand that business is business, but I'd like to think that certain things--like pediatric cancer--maybe take priority over business. But I guess when your station is getting absolutely murdered in the ratings week after week you need to do whatever you can. Pretty much sums up WEEI in a nutshell. I also find it a bit hypocritical that WEEI/NESN always gladly took money from people like George Steinbrenner during the Jimmy Fund telethons when his team was the main competitor with WEEI/NESN's most important source of revenue, yet NESN refuses to let the rival show of the show they simulcast five days a week advertise their cancer charity that involves almost the entire Bruins team.
As shitty as it is, at least it should make for some great anti-WEEI rants from Fred tomorrow.
Apparently, NESN "passed" on allowing us to do our yearly promotion of Cuts For A Cause during their broadcast of a Bruins game. Fred and I have met some of the great kids that the Tufts Floating Hospital For Children helps out. Almost all of the people I've met over at NESN are good people with seemingly good hearts. That's why I am so shocked they have decided not to let us promote the event as in the past. I sincerely hope this has nothing to do with morning show radio politics that NESN is involved with. I'm speechless. Truly saddened.
Gotta think this was WEEI-related. I understand that business is business, but I'd like to think that certain things--like pediatric cancer--maybe take priority over business. But I guess when your station is getting absolutely murdered in the ratings week after week you need to do whatever you can. Pretty much sums up WEEI in a nutshell. I also find it a bit hypocritical that WEEI/NESN always gladly took money from people like George Steinbrenner during the Jimmy Fund telethons when his team was the main competitor with WEEI/NESN's most important source of revenue, yet NESN refuses to let the rival show of the show they simulcast five days a week advertise their cancer charity that involves almost the entire Bruins team.
As shitty as it is, at least it should make for some great anti-WEEI rants from Fred tomorrow.
In NESN's defense, supporting an event via nesn.com is the same as a Bruins' telecast.
#fuckNESN
#fuckNESN
I don't know if this is related to Dale or EEI or not but I remember that Fred was really really bad on air last year. I don't know if it was nerves or what but he was stumbling and all over the place and mentioned their show more than the charity. I may be misremembering that last part.
Forget Funk Fridays. The hair metal band in studio today has made my friggin day. Out F'ing Standing!
I don't think it was that - Fred was awkward but no more awkward than some other guests they've had on the telecasts. I think he mentioning the show a bunch had something to do with NESN continuing to promote D&C as "Boston's #1 morning show" even though T&R had clearly outclassed them in the ratings by that point.
I just seem to remember that it was a very poor showing on thier part last year. Fred was awkward and IIRC Rich mentioned Toucher and Rich probably a dozen times, including repeating it over and over during the last 20 seconds and both were giggling like school girls. I think that the show mentions were in part because T&R and TSH get ZERO credit for thier part in this charity every year.
That doesn't excuse what NESN and Dale won't have someone else in, but it would explain why they don't want Fred.
A caller just said that D&C accused them of using Cuts for a Cure as self-promotion, and Fred has absolutely lost his mind in anger. Tune in now.
This happened. About 2 minutes before I pulled into work, T&R went to commercials, so I flipped over. Dennis flat out said that both T&R (even though it was really only Fred who made a big deal out of it), without using their names, were putting themselves above the event by making a big deal about not being allowed on NESN. He of course played dumb, claiming they were on vacation so they had no idea what was even happening. I got out of the car before Callahan said anything, but all I could think was "I can't wait to hear Fred go off on this."
T&R are surely on the right side of this issue, but I must say that Fred's whiny bitch routine is wearing extremely thin. I find myself flipping over to EEI much more lately because of it.
He threw a temper tantrum over Felger yesterday that got me in that mood. He went on about how The Wood saved his hair, how he was faking that Comcast wanted him to keep his hair for TV, etc, and that was fine. But then he started going off about how he (Fred) and his wife would have loved to save his hair, how if Comcast really wanted to save Felger's hair, they should have made a legit donation instead of outbidding whoever by $1, and how it was "fine", next year they're just gonna stick to the athletes and nobody else will be invited to participate.
I almost came in here yesterday to say that. I was kind of surprised and a little annoyed that Fred was making such a big fucking deal about it, how he and Rich were the clowns and Felger was Comcast's Golden Boy and that from now on it would be a T&R with the Bruins event.
He tried to recover saying he really didn't care afterward but that was after he received a shitload of texts calling him out on it and the damage was already done.
That being said, I wish I was listening at 8am. Damn that must have been great.
Per D&C Nesn would allow any player on air to promote the event they just didn't want any of the Sports Hub "talent" on air.
Per multiple posts in this thread Fred used his appearance last year to continually promote the show over the charity, this is what D&C are referring to when they said he was more concerned with self publicity.
If Nesn was willing to allow players to promote the event I don't see how they are in the wrong here.
Per multiple posts in this thread Fred used his appearance last year to continually promote the show over the charity, this is what D&C are referring to when they said he was more concerned with self publicity.
If Nesn was willing to allow players to promote the event I don't see how they are in the wrong here.
As much as I hate D&C for many reasons I don't see what they did wrong. T&R are a competing program with their "talent" and NESN optioned not to make them a part of their endorsement of the charity event. They promoted it. Which of course would have meant that anyone going would have gotten exposure to TSH angle. They just werent going to over extend the promotion to run counter to their own interests.
D&C does a lot of charity stuff for kids and when Dennis went off he just pointed out that it was a dick move to suggest otherwise.
Part of this problem is the way these teams are owned and twined together through these outlets. TSH is on the outside looking in from the NESN perspective and WEEI gets access to both Comcast and NESN. I can see how that would grate, but I don't see the point of picking a fight about it via a charity.
I dont always believe D&C, but it seems like they would have no power to stop NESN from doing what it wants. They all made this bed with their pseudo-incestuous networking arrangements. People shouldn't be shocked it isnt always as straightforward as one would like.
D&C does a lot of charity stuff for kids and when Dennis went off he just pointed out that it was a dick move to suggest otherwise.
Part of this problem is the way these teams are owned and twined together through these outlets. TSH is on the outside looking in from the NESN perspective and WEEI gets access to both Comcast and NESN. I can see how that would grate, but I don't see the point of picking a fight about it via a charity.
I dont always believe D&C, but it seems like they would have no power to stop NESN from doing what it wants. They all made this bed with their pseudo-incestuous networking arrangements. People shouldn't be shocked it isnt always as straightforward as one would like.
Yeah as discussed the big question with last years appearance was Rich doing the "ToucherandRichToucherandRich" thing as they were signing off and the question as to why NESN promoted D&C as Boston's #1 morning show.
Fred also said multiple times that having Thornton promote the event on the air was the best thing for the event and that he would drop the issue - the problem is NESN didn't make that clear when they elected not to have Fred and Rich back on the air even though they were on the air for the last few years.
So you think it's appropriate for NESN to air coverage of the Jimmy Fund Telethon and have talent promote that and not do the same for CFAC? NESN owns broadcasting rights to both sports.
But NESN did promote CFAC on air. They just didn't let Fred do it. There's a difference.
With Andy Brickley saying a 15 second liner in between breaks in the action? They didn't have Thornton promote it until they made an issue of it over the air. Whether or not they would have let Thornton promote it in the manner they did even if T&R didn't raise a stink is another question - but well never know for sure (I happen to think they would not have without the commotion based entirely on the press release they sent out following Fred's outburst).
Do you not acknowledge the difference between having a representative speak in between periods vs a play by play guy reading a quick liner?
I have no idea if it is or is not, I stated that is was mentioned several times in this thread just scroll up a bit an you will see it. The same thing was clearly what D&C were referring to when they talked about the self promotion.
Yeah, Fred was pretty adamant that they never suggested otherwise and that it was pretty bush league move by D&C to say that. No idea if true but, just judging by T&R's nature, that doesn't seem like their MO.
Sure there's a difference. But all I was trying to correct was the incorrect assertion that NESN wasn't promoting CFAC at all. The only thing NESN has done is say no to Fred being on their airwaves. That doesn't necessarily have anything to do with CFAC at all. It has to do with Fred Toucher.
Frankly, I don't watch the pre-game, post-game or intermission shows at all. So Brick reading liners during the action is probably the only way the event is going to cross my radar, at least in terms of through the Bruins telecast. Wouldn't matter if Fred, Rich, Thornton or Kate Upton appeared on the intermission report to promote the event, I'd miss it regardless. I'm guessing I'm not alone.
Fred being butthurt at not being allowed on NESN is understandable. But to frame the discussion as NESN hurting/ignoring the charity event is disingenuous.
I'm not sure it is. It's legitimately unclear as to whether NESN agreed to have Thornton promote the event and that message just wasn't adequately sent to/received by T&R, or if NESN originally planned to not promote the event and then switched tacks after the initial outburst by Fred.
To Nesn's defense they had Thornton on the week the event was taking place which seems to make sense. Didn't they have Thornton or players on last year? I think Fred was being a little too sensitive about the whole thing and it really shouldn't be about him. Their segment was pretty akward last year and they kept plugging their own show so I'm not sure why he expected to be brought back on air. It's much more interesting to have the players talk about the event than anyone else.
It goes against Fred's nature of pissing and moaning over every slight, both perceived and real, at every opportunity? Or it goes against his nature of spending 10 minutes bitching about Felger, or his wife, or Comcast, whoever bidding $1 more than someone and only getting a 3 blade instead of a full shave down because Felger is Comcast's Golden Boy and T&R are clowns, even though with Felger the charity brought $1300 more than without him?
Yeah, it's completely out of character for Fred to accuse D&C of not caring about children's charities. I'm not saying that he did, but it wouldn't surprise me either.
I think Rich's X-Files investigation was tongue in cheek and done to get under Fred's skin. I tend to believe Fred's reaction of anger/annoyance/bitchiness was real.
T&R has Adolfo walking around with balloons outside of Fenway yesterday messing with people who thought the balloons were part of 100 year ticket give away balloon promotion. Instead of tickets the balloons had shitty coupons. The audio was hysterical. People were all excited to get a chance to pop a balloon and then you'd hear people asking what they got. I lost it when one of the guys said "Its a coupon for 75 cents off Heulva Good Cheese."
Tremendous.
Tremendous.
I can't take it anymore. I have to switch back to D&C for awhile. Fred, Rich and Birdman....for 40 minutes...bitching and moaning about last nights Bruins loss like grade schoolers. They offered no insight just more whine-no cheese. Their first two callers called them out on this and Fred's feathers got all ruffled where he became defensive and outright dismissed them without giving them a chance to back their stance.
I sometimes believe these guys prefer to do bits for 4 hours rather than engage their audience with an intelligent discussion about the relevant happenings of the Boston and (to a lesser extent) national sports scene. It's been so long since I've listened to D&C that I've forgotten that this was their forte. Just wish Mr. John "Suck air through teeth after every sentence" Meterperel would be replaced by that hot sounding chick they used to have subbing for him. Forgot her name.
I sometimes believe these guys prefer to do bits for 4 hours rather than engage their audience with an intelligent discussion about the relevant happenings of the Boston and (to a lesser extent) national sports scene. It's been so long since I've listened to D&C that I've forgotten that this was their forte. Just wish Mr. John "Suck air through teeth after every sentence" Meterperel would be replaced by that hot sounding chick they used to have subbing for him. Forgot her name.
I wonder what the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT is at 8?? Hopefully its not 75 cents off of HELLUVA A GOOD CHEESE!
For anyone not listening, they helped Jose Canseco get a contract with the Worcester Tornados. Meh.
I will say Rich is amazing, talk about going above and beyond for the sake of the show, the Charlie Sheen stuff, Canseco, everything else that he does. Honestly Fred is lucky to have Rich because I'm not sure he would have his own show without him.
I will say Rich is amazing, talk about going above and beyond for the sake of the show, the Charlie Sheen stuff, Canseco, everything else that he does. Honestly Fred is lucky to have Rich because I'm not sure he would have his own show without him.
I thought that it was pretty good. It's nice to have Jose Canseco and his crazy back in Massachusetts. Also found out that he was invited to today's game, which I thought was very interesting.
This would be awesome if Canseco got signed to the Worcester Sharks.
Not super impressed with this big announcement otherwise. Still got mad love for T&R though
Not super impressed with this big announcement otherwise. Still got mad love for T&R though
Judge, question for you.
What does all of this running around really do for the show? Charlie Sheen was awesome but no one talks about it now. Plus I'm sure many listeners weren't impressed with the announcement as with many of their "big announcements" it was pretty weak with the exception of a small segment of JMOHs.
I can't see how either of these really help the show, is the idea that if they can bring a few new listeners in that they might stick around? Does it maybe raise their profile nationally so that when their contract is up in Boston they might be able to move to a bigger market?
What does all of this running around really do for the show? Charlie Sheen was awesome but no one talks about it now. Plus I'm sure many listeners weren't impressed with the announcement as with many of their "big announcements" it was pretty weak with the exception of a small segment of JMOHs.
I can't see how either of these really help the show, is the idea that if they can bring a few new listeners in that they might stick around? Does it maybe raise their profile nationally so that when their contract is up in Boston they might be able to move to a bigger market?
How about it just shows that he loves his job and goes further than anyone else would to entertain his listeners, even if "no one talks about it now".