Gammons had his TV on in the background, which was pretty rude. In fact, Gammons was pretty rude in a quiet sort of way for the entire interview. He brought nothing to the table but disdain for Fred, who was very respectful. It was a dismal appearance.
It drives me crazy when these guys act like they are way too important to be bothered, like on their cell phone walking down the street, or with all sorts of shit going on around them. Find a fucking landline or at least a quiet place to do the interview.